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I Am a Friend of Ishmael

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    A View Point From Orbit...

    This books real power for me was to put me in a position where you can see our world from a different perspective, can see the big picture. Much like the affect astronauts claim to experience when they see the whole planet from orbit. Still, the most shocking thing for me was the...
    ammonite ammonite 31-35 1 Response Sep 17, 2008

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    Gave Me A New Way Of Thinking

    so i read this book for an ap class and i loved it. i loved how it went into takers and leavers and just people just described the way we are and what we are doing, for me this was an eye opener, theres so much more i cant even write it all down i loved this book. it even goes...
    agonyblue agonyblue 18-21 1 Response Sep 5, 2011

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    Daniel Quinn Blows My Mind

    I need to reread all of his books (yet again), since I own them. I don't know why it occurred to me to write this story. I think I answered a question earlier about books with "Ishmael", and I was thinking about how effective the Socratic Method is as a way of teaching. People...
    deleted deleted 26-30 Mar 16, 2013

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    Finished It Today

    I like the conversation that takes place when Ishmael takes on the part of a hunter-gatherer and the narrator acts the part of the cultural missionary.  It's my favorite part of the book.  I like when he gets to the point that "the premise of the taker story is the...
    eromreven eromreven 26-30 4 Responses Apr 2, 2008

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    When I Read This I Was In the Navy

      For the record if you ever want to deconstruct the military mentality, try explaining how man-kind ruined everything by seeking security- thus becoming a TAKER
    mr4553 mr4553 36-40, M Apr 22, 2009

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    Thoughts?

    Overall I really enjoyed this book. The only thing I really object to is how Ishmael calls for not increasing the food supply. I agree with the net result that this would have ( stopping population growth), but I think it's a very easy thing to say with a full stomach. I...
    deleted deleted 26-30 6 Responses Jan 31, 2008

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    Cause The Real Law Of The Jungle Ain't Kill Or Be Killed

    it doesn't work like that! look up the law of limited competition!     However, Rudyard Kipling in his fictional work, The Jungle Book, uses it to mean an actual law code used by wolves and other animals in the jungles of India. The entire verse is as follows: Now this...
    ManifestoOfThePhoenix ManifestoOfThePhoenix 26-30, M Feb 2, 2010

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    Beyond Civilization and Elections

    I sometimes wonder if we are better off with Republican rule, in terms of moving beyond Taker Culture.  I'm afraid that Obama will just slow down this process and delay the inevitable. I think we need to let Taker Culture implode, so that we can build on top of  the...
    ag123 ag123 41-45 14 Responses Jul 8, 2008

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    Ishmael Fits With My Anarchistian Perspective

    When I read Ishmael - which was quite a few years ago now - I was both terrified and relieved. It was refreshing to hear someone with the guts to proclaim the truth. The idea that scarcity is fundamental to our human condition and we cannot trust God/providence/the universe to...
    gavmac gavmac 46-50, M Aug 20, 2010

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    Cause The Real Law Of The Jungle Ain't Kill Or Be Killed

    it doesn't work like that! look up the law of limited competition!  However, Rudyard Kipling in his fictional work, The Jungle Book, uses it to mean an actual law code used by wolves and other animals in the jungles of India.The entire verse is as follows:Now this...
    ManifestoOfThePhoenix ManifestoOfThePhoenix 26-30, M 2 Responses Feb 2, 2010

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    Wanna be friends? Add me, message me, if you somehow figure out my address come talk to me :)
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    me and my best friend always have connections and we act like sisters so much like we eat of each other cause we don't care and we love each other
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    Just like anyone else on this Group, I am hoping to make friends that would lead to true friendship. The kind of connection that each would have trust to express more, and trust...
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    I had a male best friend, we had so much in common. I use the past tense because he wanted to be more than just friends but I didn't. I was honest with him, I never led him on...
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    It is hard to not have anyone you can call your true friend and talk openly with about things in your life whether good, bad, or neutral. I am married but things are not going so...
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    Wow, this is a topic of interest among the masses. It seems that there are a lot of us with no friends or no close friends and yet here we all are. Too bad there isn't a coffee...
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    Fake friends- never ask for food Real friends- are the reason you have no food Fake friends- call your parents Mr/Mrs Real friends- call your parents DAD/MOM Fake friends- have...
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    Sorry this is ridiculously long. But thank you for taking the time to have a look. I was going to go do some work experience at some really cool company that I might want to get...
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    I met you at a bar in my hometown only six years ago. We barely knew each other but we got along like we'd known each other forever. You chased me around the bar with a pool cue...
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    Me and Jocelynn have been best friends since 7th grade. We did everything together. We became basically one person, we got older and nothing changed. As most teenagers do me and...
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    I meet wonderful strangers that I can honestly call friends on EP. Alana000 you are a sweetheart very caring and adorable & beautiful girl. I feel very happy to have meet you...
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    But friendship always gone too soon.. As much as it feels somehow rather.. Bad that you no longer meant that much/important to whom you thought, they could be your best friend.. Or...
    JonDanny JonDanny 18-21, F 2 Responses Jul 1

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    Since i already read a lot of stories in here maybe its time for me to share my story. So i have a secret crush to my girl best friend. We've been friends since we were in...
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    For a long time i wanted and longed for a group of loving friends to share my life and experiences with. I have a few friends in reality that i know are true friends and we share a...
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    I didn't know what true friendship was until I met my best friend. We met a year ago, when my life was at it's worse. Everyone thought they were no hope for me to change, I got on...
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    Stop asking if we can be friends. The fact that we're talking respectively to each other automatically makes us friends. Sure, maybe not such good friends, but friends nonetheless...
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    I lost her... Again. The first time she left was back in October I think because me and her boyfriend had started talking and became like brother and sister. She left and I cried...
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