I Am Lonely Forum & Chat Board | lonely 22 year old virgin male, never kissed a girl, etc.

Here's my story.

I am a 22 year old virgin male, never kissed a girl, never had a girlfriend, etc. 

No...I am not shy.  I have approached hundreds of women, I have simply been rejected every time.

No...I do not aim high...I aim for average looking girls and lower.

No...I am not socially retarded. 

No...I do not "lack confidence"

No...I do not dress weird at all.  I dress a little trendy but not overly so.

No...I do not smell bad....I practice proper hygiene.

No...I am not short or fat.....I am 6'2 and 155lbs.

So why cant I get girls?  Well its because I am ugly.  One might argue that ugly guys have no problem they know some ugly guy that had a girlfriend once...but this is the exception to the rule.  Its like...Yao Ming is 7 foot 6...but most east asains are under 6 foot. 

HALF ...I repeat...HALF of my friends have ether NEVER had sex or kissed a girl or have ONLY gotten this from hookers.  This life is not abnormal for ugly males.

Part of it is evolutionary. Women care about looks more than anything because a man's looks are very telling about his genes.  Like a girl will look at a short/bald/ugly guy and to a conscious level think "ew, gross" but to a subconscious level think  "i want nothing to do with this guy since I do not want to mate with him because I do not want MY offspring to be bald/ugly/short"

Evolution depends on the bottom tier males to die off without ever having sex.  How do you think progression of superior genes works?  How do you think the elimination of inferior genes works?

For one example...look at neanderthals.  They have very protruding brow ridges.  Now...why are our brow ridges less prominent?  Its because women decided they were unattractive and refused to mate with men with heavy brow ridges.

That's how evolution works...women mate with pretty boys and alpha males like crazy because they have top tier genes.  Women refuse to mate with ugly males because  they have inferior genes.  The result is a marginally improved gene pool each generation. 

In laymen's terms....women are genetically programed to only go for 10 percent of guys where as men are genetically programed to want to have sex with any and every female under 45.  This explains why a 300lb ugly 40 year old woman still has 50 options at any given time.

I have done experiments where I have created two COMPLETELY identical profiles on dating sites.  The ONLY difference was the PICTURE.  One ugly, one attractive.  EVERY time, without fail, the ugly one will get 0 replies and the attractive one will get many.

Many guys like to believe that women do not care about looks...only caring about personality.  This myth is the result of a misandrist, man-hating, and woman worshiping society.  We are raised at an early age to belive women can do no wrong and are made of "sugar, spice and everything nice".

Now I am not saying women are bad/evil.  But women are not goddesses to be worshiped ether.

The sad thing is...the guys who are the biggest mangina bootlickers are actually the least successful with women.  One thing I have noticed is manginas are, on average, below average looking.  See...most ugly guys feel the need to compensate the fact they are ugly by worshiping women and bending over backwards for them with insane hopes that one day a woman will reward them with affection.  This almost never works because inevitably women are just going to keep going back to the same pretty boys, bad boys, or alpha males.

It seems women would rather be abused by an alpha male than treated right by an average looking or ugly guy. 

A girl will say "im not like that" "I dont care about looks" etc. but then she will ignore the nice, but ugly, guys and only pay attention to the same pretty boys and alpha males all the other girls are going for.  Actions speak louder than words.  Thats why nothing anybody says means anything to me or in the very least I take what they say with a planet sized grain of salt.

I am sure there is a good chance that this post will be deleted and I might even get banned but I do not care.  I am not politically correct...but the fact is....there are MANY scientific FACTS that are not politically correct.  Deal with it.

well,I could say the same about men.They are attracted tp women who are beautiful.I can tell you from experience,When I was overweight,guys never noticed me but since I have lost weight I have guys talk to me.Looks are important,there is no denying that,it doesn't matter whether your a woman or a man.These days we are bombarded with images of beauty whether on tv,magazines or the net.As a woman,I feel there is a pressure for me to look a certain way,though with the passing of the years it has become less important to me

There is such a thing as being beautiful on the inside.  Whilst it is true that people who are more physically attractive may get more attention, there are still millions of ordinary and even ugly people in the world enjoying happy and successful relationships.

These people are beautiful inside.  I don't know if you are - or are not.  I do know you posted an extremely bitter and misogynist post on ILIASM and then acted "surprised" when I flamed you. . .

Men and women are attracted to people whose personalities are positive, friendly, warm, outgoing, humourous and accepting.  If you have all of these things (or even just some of them) going for you, your looks won't matter.

Convincing yourself that the only reason you are not getting any is because women are shallow creatures who only like handsome men is not going to help you in the end.     Whilst ever you believe you are the "victim" you cannot be surprised if you find life treats you like that.

Start acting with self confidence and a belief in yourself.  Treat women as friends, not as enemies.  Get to know  women as people, not just as potential sex partners.  I can promise you that, at some time, these strategies will pay off for you.

You are way too young to be bitter and twisted.  Choose happiness.  It is a much better pathway.

 Look for an "ugly" girl. Look for some one who looking for "inside" beauty. Are YOU beautiful inside?

I HAVE approached many ugly girls.  Problem is even the ugliest girls have a million options. 

 Are YOU beautiful inside?

If it is so, there is NO ugly girls or women in this world.

 There is no ugly guys as well.

All ugliness goes inside out.

So by saying "theres no ugly people" and "beauty is all inside"  you are saying looks dont matter.

That is easy for you GIRLS to say.  Even if you are 300lbs and have a hideous face you still have 50 guys lined up.

The guys who say looks dont matter are generally above average looking.  I almost never see UGLY MALES saying "looks dont matter"  they know better.

Also I will take millions of years of evolution over your PC "looks dont matter" any day.

 I tell you a story.

it was an experiment 
One very hansom actor played role of a stranger on a street. 
People passed near by and sometimes got involved  to talk.
He played  different roles to communicate with people
and control group of people gave him a mark from 1 to 5 
1 – ugly
5 -  beautiful
 
Then there was an experiment with "ugly" actor (the same rules).
 
Same outfit. Same roles. They both changed  manners and inside feelings and attitude during to communication with people :
****
 
People's marks were approximately THE SAME for hansom and for ugly:
 
smiling, friendly – 5
 
smiling face, anger or arrogant -1 
 
careful - 5
 
grumpy - 2
 
bad manners - 1
 
malevolent - 1
 
lack of mind (stupid) - 1
 
unkind - 2 
 
full of proud, self conceit -1

 well mate, there are some ugly bastards out there that buy their women, I've seen some real nasty looking fellers out there that have kids with really fit beautiful ladies, and what you notice first about the bloke, is his car, his rolex, etcetera.

So, there's some hope out there for us nasty lads, get studying and make a lot of cash, and the ladies will start showing up; on the evolutionary sence, i believe that this behaivour is due because the women look for a man that can provide better shite for her and their ugly kids.

thanks

"So by saying "theres no ugly people" and "beauty is all inside"  you are saying looks dont matter."

Although, I cannot speak for others, I can personally say that looks do not matter.

I'm attracted to the type of guys that can make me laugh and who are really nice to me. It doesn't matter whether or not they fit the definition of what's supposedly "good-looking".

To me, what makes a guy attractive is his personality and not his looks.

For example, though this sounds bad, if my ex and I had passed by each other on the street, I never would have noticed him, not because he's not a "pretty guy" but because there's just nothing unique about his appearance at first glance - nothing that really makes him stand out amongst the other guys.

But because I actually got to sit and talk with him for a few hours the night we met, I became attracted to him because he could constantly make me laugh and he was really sweet.

Now, I know there are some girls out there (even some who are not all that pretty) who only care about looks and all I have to say about them is that they are truly missing out on some great guys.

There are guys out there like this as well, it's not just the girls.

As far as advice goes, all I can say is you should just keep your head up and try not to be so bitter. There's a girl out there for you, you just haven't found her yet.

I can see why you think most of what you do. Society is ******, in fact you could prob write a book on the flaws of it.

But I don't think that's your problem. Just knowing what I know about you.

It's really easy to blame it on the masses, for example serial killers claiming to be the victims of ridicule etc. And to a extent it may be true. Still doesn't change the fact that life is what you make it.

You look in the mirror and see a ugly person but your not. You really ARE NOT. (btw I have seen pictures of this guy and known him via the internet for a while).

You need to change the way you think, because you see things backwards. I mean you are posting this in a "I am lonely" forum. But you said nothing about being lonely. Not directly. You implied it. But you never said it. You try and cover your feelings with what you perceive to be facts but those facts just turn into worse feelings than you started with. I think it's time for you to face things that you don't want to and finally be honest with yourself. Or these horrible feelings will never go away. No matter how many surgeries you get or money etc.

the fact that life is what you make it.

That is true.

Life is the mirror in which you see and get your own refection (your attitude, thoughts, feelings...) 

There’s no one to correct but yourself. As soon as you do, you will see that the world is full of Light.

 I totally empathize and agree with you. I didn't kiss a girl until I was 29 and I've been alone almost my entire life. I'm now 45 and haven't been on real date in 12 years, and I've never had a relationship. I've been rejected many many MANY times and I'm positive it's because of the way I look. People tell me I have a great personality and great sense of humor but... the "but" is I'm ugly. As you say, women get to pick and choose whereas unattractive guys will take whatever they can get. 

I think visual attraction is probably the first thing we look for when talking with someone for the first time. The inner beauty comes afterward. I have known many people over the years who have turned into a gorgeous creature after getting to know them better

If you are so unhappy with the way you look, why don't you do something about it? Do you think all of those beautiful women you see everyday wake up looking like that? Women use makeup, waxing, nails, heels to look taller and the list goes on.

The same goes for men; you can wake up in the morning and walk out of the house just the way you are or you can take time and make yourself look and feel great. Have a shower with really yummy manly soap, aftershave, cologne. If it is your skin, go to a dermatologist, if it is your eyebrows go and get them waxed, if it is your hair go to a really good stylist, get highlights, if it is your eyes get contacts...the sky is the limit.

If you do not like what you see in the mirror change it to something you like...if you do not feel you should change your appearance you will need to accept it. Remember beauty IS on the inside...no matter what you change on the outside you will be loved for who you are.

cheers

 rob, if you are ugly, who am I?

Women like to have me.

What is wrong with you? eh?

 rob, if you are ugly, who am I?

Women like to have me.

What is wrong with you? eh?