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dwonder dwonder 31-35, M 9 Answers Jan 6, 2013 in Hobbies

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If you can keep your head when all about you<br />
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;<br />
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,<br />
But make allowance for their doubting too:<br />
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,<br />
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,<br />
Or being hated don't give way to hating,<br />
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;<br />
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If you can dream---and not make dreams your master;<br />
If you can think---and not make thoughts your aim,<br />
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster<br />
And treat those two impostors just the same:.<br />
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken<br />
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,<br />
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,<br />
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;<br />
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If you can make one heap of all your winnings<br />
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,<br />
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,<br />
And never breathe a word about your loss:<br />
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew<br />
To serve your turn long after they are gone,<br />
And so hold on when there is nothing in you<br />
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"<br />
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If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,<br />
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,<br />
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,<br />
If all men count with you, but none too much:<br />
If you can fill the unforgiving minute<br />
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,<br />
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,<br />
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!<br />
<br />
Rudyard Kipling's "If"

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Wow, EP won't let me post a youtube link? Look for Dennis Hopper reciting it on the Johnny Cash show

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excellent. one of my favorites!

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My activity shows that someone else commented, but I can't click on anything to see more comments. The one I posted about Dennis Hopper on Johnny Cash reciting this poem doesn't show up either. :- Sumnerkagan if you see this, sorry I can't see your comment!

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To be real, not those fake things you see on TV

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courage , honest , noble , polite , caring , warmhearted ....

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not a cartoon or a real doll

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Hyped up brain washing applied to men in society. Basically be tough, cool under pressure, be brave, protect and provide for women (their important as breeding stock). Know how to fight, work out have as much muscle and stamina as possible present your self in a manner that says you<br />
Are to be taken seriously, don't slouch etc. Be aggressive, try to be the "alpha male" (ever wonder why prisons are full of men?)<br />
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Basically all this leads to the use of men as soldiers, and laborers , passably as administrators. It is ba<x>sed on the idea of human beings as live stock, valuable for their physical characteristics rather than who they are as a person.<br />
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The sooner we crush this dehumanising ideology the better for all of us.

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when they define a real woman ill ba<x>se it on that

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Doing what you have to do befo you do what you want to do.

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Means u aren't afraid to fight for what u believe in. U respect women and have a good job and stuff.. It's not that hard ya know?

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Taking responsibility for your actions. and not letting people destroy your moral compass.

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