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Athiest, non-athiest, it's OK with me. Just curious. Athiests, would you define the God in which you don't believe?

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    Jenji - 51-55 years old

    Posted by Jenji 1 Dec 1st, 2011 at 2:00PM

    I suspect that most people who claim to be atheist are really agnostic. I see no proof of god. I call myself agnostic unless I am dealing with a christian. Then I'm an atheist... because you have to dummy it down with the black/white koolaide sipping cult crowd. IMO religion was created by very smart men who knew they could not control miserable desperate people with the threat of meer death. Death would be a repreave from real misery. But if you douse a subordinant with a threat of eternal damnation for disobedience, then tell them they will have eternal life if they obey the rules and also give you money, you've got a hand on their soul and a lifelong residual income. Pretty smart scam if you look at it from the outside in.
    So, in answer to your question: Apparently I do not believe in an omnipotent entity who will be my "judge" upon my death.

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  1. nelladell - 70+ years old - female

    Reply by nelladell Dec 1st, 2011 at 4:53AM

    i see. thanks for answering.

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  2. cpthaddock - 51-55 years old - male

    Reply by cpthaddock Dec 1st, 2011 at 5:13AM

    I'd say you're not too far off from years ago. The rich could have their sins absolved by bunging the church a nice wad. A few folk would call this a mafia...

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10 Answers to "Athiest, non-athiest, it's OK with me. Just curious. Athiests, would you define the God in which you don't believe?"

  1. cpthaddock - 51-55 years old - male

    Posted by cpthaddock Dec 1st, 2011 at 5:01AM

    Religious folk would call me atheist but I'd say I was gnostic (not agnostic) I believe when I get to the door marked GOD, I knock on the door, no answer, I then open the door and stick my head in and it's a full office. Then I go to the office manager and tell him he should prop the door open, as folks are wandering off down the road to number 666. ... :)

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  2. nelladell - 70+ years old - female

    Reply by nelladell Dec 1st, 2011 at 12:20PM

    :)

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  3. underconstruction - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by underconstruction Dec 1st, 2011 at 11:29AM

    It is spelled "Atheist" ......just saying.

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  4. nelladell - 70+ years old - female

    Reply by nelladell Dec 1st, 2011 at 12:33PM

    dang. thanks. my spelling has been getting worse and worse and that, along with often not having the wherewithal to spell check first hints at (or gives me an excuse for) quitting this site. all things have their season.

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  5. EarthlingWise - 41-45 years old

    Posted by EarthlingWise Dec 1st, 2011 at 10:55AM

    God is a word and words can change meanings. I don't believe in any of the deities humans have imagined as cosmological sources, whether it's a totem-animal, a grandfather, or a goddess.
    I am dubious of the very idea of one single entity as the origin of everything as it still begs the question of what came before 'one' and monotheisms in general sound like solipsisms.
    So the term is quite useless to me. I'm not a narrow-minded materialist, I think life is a mystery and this in itself is beautiful. I also believe in moral endeavours to improve this life although it often feels like a lost battle , the rules on earth (competition for survival) are inherently leading to injustice and suffering. I found no road to happiness or to the truth in any spiritual tradition.

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  6. nelladell - 70+ years old - female

    Reply by nelladell Dec 1st, 2011 at 12:20PM

    Thanks very much.

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  7. THEMADHATTERXXXX - 46-50 years old - male

    Posted by THEMADHATTERXXXX Dec 1st, 2011 at 3:22AM

    to define something is to have an idea of it ... I have no idea what god is ... and I don't believe in any ideas of it either ... as the idea isn't the real thing ... will the real reveal ? Who knows ?

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  8. SimplyBeing - 51-55 years old - male

    Posted by SimplyBeing Dec 8th, 2011 at 10:39PM

    Idiocy multiplied by gullibility, times the number of adherents, squared.

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  9. TheIvoryWitch - 18-21 years old - female

    Posted by TheIvoryWitch Dec 1st, 2011 at 11:42PM

    I'm not an athiest. But I think the creation of any God or God-like being is the human way of trying to understand things that were on Earth before our existance. It's a simple way to know and understand things we simply cannot; no matter what someone believes in.

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  10. GenteelAnimal - 51-55 years old - male

    Posted by GenteelAnimal Dec 1st, 2011 at 11:58AM

    I agree with the point that one cannot be an atheist if one cannot articulate a concept of God in the first place. For that reason I view nonbelievers as agnostics and not as atheists. I can easily understand the agnostic position as the product of a person's desire to remain intellectually honest. Where we differ on that aspect of the thought process is that in my view, a thought process structured on scientific method exclusively - that is, "if I don't see empirical proof I cannot believe it exists" - is by design extremely limited in scope. We learn things every day that were not previously amenable to proof; therefore, we must accept that the lack of proof is irrelevant to whether something does or does not exist. In my perspective there is room for faith, and it serves for me a necessary purpose. The next guy may feel differently and I can understand that he might.

    But I really cannot understand what most people seem to mean when they claim to be an athiest. It may be my trouble with the concept itself, or it may be I'm picking up on the other person's largely emotional rejection of organized religion. But in my mind, atheism itself is very much a religion, and one possessed of extreme religious doctrine. That is, the atheist does in fact embrace a faith and a belief system; an athiest approach to the existence (or lack thereof) of God cannot remain uncommitted.

    The active belief of the atheist is that there is in fact no God, which suggests a claim to awareness of the absolute. As my personal thought process relies on an assumption that we cannot know of absolutes, I interpret this idea as showing a rigidity of thought. For instance, logical consistency suggests to me that an athiest must also feel compelled to believe that nothing else in the universe may exist which has not been proven to exist. If I am incorrect, then I am left with an unexplained logical disconnect. If my supposition is accurate, then what may be said of the history of scientific discovery in general? There was a time when people rejected the germ theory of disease. Matter used to be thought of as distinct from energy, and so on. So I guess I really don't understand atheism, except insofar as it represents a true religion.

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  11. nelladell - 70+ years old - female

    Reply by nelladell Dec 1st, 2011 at 12:11PM

    i envy your ability to see and articulate.

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  12. Powderblue - 36-40 years old - female

    Posted by Powderblue Dec 1st, 2011 at 4:43AM

    The only way I can define a God is by the absence of any place within me for one. It's impossible for me to define what others imagine or believe but when I think of God it's as a feeling which other people have and I don't. Although I could go on to speculate about those feelings and other related thoughts, which I sometimes do, that's the best definition I can give as to what God is to me, an atheist.

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  13. nelladell - 70+ years old - female

    Reply by nelladell Dec 1st, 2011 at 4:52AM

    ah. i see. thank you.

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  14. dx2dsquared - 41-45 years old - male

    Posted by dx2dsquared Dec 1st, 2011 at 3:22AM

    I dont believe in an all powerful omnipitant being who created everything, I believe that our feeble brains concocted the whole lot as we couldent believe anything else, and the further we get from the so called "dark ages" the less relavence religion has on our lives

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  15. nelladell - 70+ years old - female

    Reply by nelladell Dec 1st, 2011 at 3:43AM

    Got it! Thank you for being able to tell me what you don't believe.

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