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Can you be a proponent of a religion when your actions and values contradict all the fundamental beliefs?

It seems to me that there are so many religious people who are hypocrites. So many Christians seem to lie, steal, murder, and commit adultery, and then go around claiming to be Christian. How can someone reasonably claim to be a religious person when all their behaviour and attitudes contradict the fundamental beliefs of their religion? Are these people just lying about their religious beliefs for a good image, status and politics? There are only a very few people who I belief have spiritual integrity, and even those people I believe are confused and have hypocritical thoughts, despite keeping integrity in their actions.

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    Martha45 - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by Martha45 Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:04PM

    I think it was Ghandi that said he would become Christian when he met a real Christian. Unfortunatly there are people that are royal hipocrites. I myself have found that at times have fallen very short of being true to myself. Please remember we are all human so we make mistakes. Those that do it on purpose you can see through the crap and to who they are. Try to see the one's that do the best they can to be as Christian as possible. We are out here and not all like you described. Take care and Blessings to you!

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  1. Agonystick - 22-25 years old - male

    Reply by Agonystick Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:21PM

    Yes I have known some people that you describe, but I think most are just blatantly contrary to their religious beliefs. Not just lapses or indiscretions, but complete contradictions to their religion's ethos. I'm sure that there are many "religious" people who unapologetically lie, cheat and steal for their own personal gain. It makes me think that they don't actually believe it at all, but are only claiming to for societal benefits of having religious associations. For example, if you claim to be religious, most people will automatically believe that you are a person with good moral judgement, and therefore will trust you. I wonder how many closet Atheists there are that are just using religion to get ahead. I recognize the people that actually try to practice spiritual integrity, but most just seem completely hypocritical.

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  2. Martha45 - 41-45 years old - female

    Reply by Martha45 Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:30PM

    You bring up a very good point and I hope that people see this. Your actions speak much louder than your words can. There are those religious people that are very career oriented and will do what they think they have to do to get where they want to go. It's sad that you have run into some of the worse examples of Christianity. I'm sorry for that too. You are most certainly right - to go through the motions and not really mean it is harmful and self-serving. To some people it is about where you can get to and how fast you can get there. I've taken 5 years to get to where I am now in the Roman Catholic Church and seen many bad examples to follow. However, I have also seen some good examples and not necessarily Christian either at times. It looks like you have seen them too. It's great you can see through the bad and find the good people. All I can say is hold tight to the good people in your life and let the others go. Arguing with them only makes them worse.

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  1. Deedo53405 - 46-50 years old - male

    Posted by Deedo53405 Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:02PM

    I hope so. Thats why I need Christ. He already knows I will fall short. But I will keep trying to be the man he hope's I will become.

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  2. Agonystick - 22-25 years old - male

    Reply by Agonystick Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:19PM

    Falling short is one thing. Consistently and blatantly contradicting the philosophies is another. If someone is doing the latter, I think that they really need to examine their beliefs.

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  3. Deedo53405 - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by Deedo53405 Feb 6th, 2013 at 10:36AM

    Or try much harder. I can only speak for myself. What I do wrong on a constants basis I do not do blatantly. But every day I know I need to pick myself up and try again. That why I ask for forgiveness, I/We need too. As for other I can NEVER judge them. I do not live there life or understand there beliefs.

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  4. Rennn - 18-21 years old - male

    Posted by Rennn Feb 5th, 2013 at 8:58PM

    Hardly any Christians even know what Christianity is. The same for most religions.

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  5. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:06PM

    There is much truth in this.

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  6. KittenHasaWhip - 46-50 years old - female

    Posted by KittenHasaWhip Feb 6th, 2013 at 1:03PM

    Can you be? I don't think that's the real question but WHY are they? People have ideals and most can't live up to them. They also can't admit it.

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  7. Agonystick - 22-25 years old - male

    Reply by Agonystick Feb 6th, 2013 at 1:36PM

    Yeah, it's fine if you admit your mistakes and try to change, but if you are unapologetic and even bragging about things that go against your religion, how can you reasonably call yourself religious?

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  8. Lazarus12 - 26-30 years old

    Posted by Lazarus12 Feb 6th, 2013 at 10:02AM

    That's the problem with man made religion, not like their is another kind. With no greater voice telling people they are doing it wrong, they can pretty much do as they please, and start another sect/denomination if they choose. Justifying anything.

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  9. AdamInChains - 41-45 years old - male

    Posted by AdamInChains Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:40PM

    To be a proponent requires only words.

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  10. Agonystick - 22-25 years old - male

    Reply by Agonystick Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:48PM

    K insert the word genuine.

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  11. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Posted by TheSquirrel Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:07PM

    I would suggest that those professed Christians are simply that, professed Christians. I tend to give those who attempt at any level to practice any positive religion a bit of slack. No sense in throwing out the baby with the bath. At least they make an attempt now and then.

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  12. Agonystick - 22-25 years old - male

    Reply by Agonystick Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:32PM

    By attempting "now and then" they are just demonstrating that their religious morality is arbitrary and not genuine. I agree that people who make a solid effort at spiritual integrity should be respected. But most just seem blatantly and unapologetically hypocritical. I've only met a few religious people who seem genuine. The rest I feel are trying to cover up their immoral disposition by claiming to be religious.

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  13. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Feb 6th, 2013 at 11:19AM

    I've seen plenty of that as well.

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  14. coloco - 61-65 years old - male

    Posted by coloco Feb 5th, 2013 at 9:04PM

    Sure, you can respect the objecives and goals, the way they conduct themselve, but not want to do it yourself

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  15. BamPow - 41-45 years old - male

    Posted by BamPow Feb 5th, 2013 at 8:58PM

    The world is full of such people.

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