Could it be that both conservatives and liberals are actually hideously conservative, at least in the USA?
Those who define themselves as one or the other want to maintain and expand their incursions into all areas of our lives. They both believe that they know better what we should be doing and thinking, and neither has a problem with using compulsion to get their way.
That's what I see, anyway.
8 Answers to "Could it be that both conservatives and liberals are actually hideously conservative, at least in the USA?"
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As a Briton I can't comment directly on US political views but I suspect what's nearer is that both sides can hold stubborn views, hence raising the controversy.
In Europe of course we've seen half a century and more of dictators of both left and right wing extremism, and both factions still have their supporters, although it's fair to say many of those have analytical skills and world knowledge little better than those of the Taliban or Khmer Rouge, even if they are nowhere near as cruel.Like (1)
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Well the most right wing group in Europe is more Left wing than the democrats, so what do you make of that?
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Somehow the two complement eachother because they are both controlled by the same class of people.
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yep...you've always got problems in any country when the political middleground occupies a space on either side of the political spectrum away from centre
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One side is worried about spending their own money, another is worried about spending the others. One wants to take care of their fellow person, the other doesn't give a rats *** about the other person. Neither say what they do, both are part of the facade that keeps our attention off the real bastards calling the shots.
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I'm not so sure that those who want to spend other people's money are actually concerned about other people, just as I have been surprised to find that the people most generous with their time and money tend to be those that others call conservative.
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If you define "conservatism" as having an imposing agenda, then that would be so.
I don't define it that way. Being conservative to me means a tendency to uphold traditional values.Like (1)
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I once would have agreed about stopping the definition there, but they seem to have adopted the idea of compulsion to get their way over persuasion, their former way, maybe because it has worked so well for those who oppose them.
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Then there is the sticky problem of what traditions we speak of. The New Deal is eighty years old. The Great Society is almost fifty. Political correctness is twenty. These things are now old enough to be traditions that some want to uphold.
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yes..
which is why i perfer the term progressiveLike (1)
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Are you sure. They are worse.
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They have a long history of really digging secret and not so secret police to get things done.
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Posted by Ketsan Dec 11th, 2012 at 7:00PM
Liberalism is the belief that the government needs to stay out of people's lives. Conservatism is the belief that government needs to stay out of people's lives.
"Progressives" are fascists; they believe in ever increasing government encroachment on people's lives. In America both main parties are about increasing government control which isn't liberal because it deliberalises things and it isn't conservative because it's taking radical action away from the tradition of American politics.
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Reply by TheSquirrel Dec 11th, 2012 at 7:05PM
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