The weather? And whale migration routes?
southern California is self absorbed and does not care. Portland cares too much
I live in Socal, and have been to Portland
About 2300 miles.
I have been both places and the weather and the cost of living are the main differences.California just went to a water emergency and Portland like Seattle has too much ha ha ha
One is an arid, hot place and the other wet and cool.
15 million people