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Murder can't be justified, any more than hate can be. One wrong doesn't equal another wrong. There's either reverence for all life, or there truly isn't respect for any life. No person has the right to decide who shall live, who shall die, who is worthy of life, who is worthy of death. We're all sinners to one extreme or the other. It's only through God's grace and love that He forgives us. If more people held God in their souls, this world wouldn't be the mess that it is right now. Only God should play God.

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"A murderer is only an extroverted suicide"

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Murder is wrong. Period.

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Murder and vengeance are two completely different things. Not saying vengeance is a good thing, but it is not the same as murder.<br />
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Scenario. A man grabs your child out of your backyard, takes her somewhere, rapes and tortures her for a couple of days and then kills her, just for fun. That is murder. <br />
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You go through all the pain of loss, and watch the investigation and see him arrested and tried and he get off on a technicality. You go after him and shoot him in the head. That is vengeance. <br />
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Would you have killed him if he had never taken your child? Would you have killed him, if the justice system had done its job? <br />
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Do you see the difference?

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By definition, that is still murder. For murder is unlawfully killing somebody, basically. If you go after someone and kill them, then that is murder, plain and simple. Your intentions are meaningless in the face of the law.

And of course I would, but that is because it would become personal, and I wouldn't give a damn about laws. In fact if something like that happened to someone I loved, then I would not let anyone or anything get in my way. It is still murder no matter how you look at it.

Killing someone in the name of vengeance, or killing someone because you wanted to are both murder. Just because one may have justifications, does not make it right.

Do you see the similarities?

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Of course it isn't right, and both people had their own reasons for committing the crime, but the second crime would never happen if the first hadn't happened. Did I say vengeance was right? No, but still vengeance is only murder in the legal definition. And I understand the need for a law that prevents us from killing anyone who killed someone we cared for. That would be a never ending chain of killings. So, yes it is wrong and must not be allowed, but one is understandable, while the other is despicable.

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That is horrible logic. By that logic you can just say, if those people never existed to begin with they never would have been murdered. Sounds stupid, yes?

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Playing god? Nah. Murder is just wrong. People are just picky on who they decide to kill.

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By deciding on who has the right or not to live is basically the act of "playing god".

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I don't think I could kill anyone... Ever.

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I'm not asking if you would ever kill somebody.

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Yes, so what in saying is... In my eyes it's never ok to kill.

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Never?

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For me, no. Never.

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um, it tends to be, but murder isn't always wrong, i wouldn't try to argue that

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In what way can it be right?

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hard to say - the answer requires such broad and deep clarifications, and says so much about the speaker, that it's very hard for that vital discussion to complete a successful journey

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i can only think of dry, abstract generalisations, but that stuff usually happens on the ground in the heat of the moment, instantly or from a moment obsessed upon

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I know, I just enjoy talking about it.

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by various examples presumably?

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