the entire voting system is retarded. It should be popular vote across the board.
With gerrymandering still legal in the vast majority of states, popular vote should be all that counts.
yes it means we the people are not getting the votes we cast. how can the popular vote cast one guy as winner but the electoral vote says the other one won?? i thought we the people get to choose who we want.
it has never been that way the founding fathers never had faith in the common man
its so damn frustrating
Some did. Some of us still do, in spite of evidence to the contrary ... there's actually a study on it that's been published, majority rule makes bad decisions when voters are given A vs. B options on a complicated issue -- like healthcare for example. Study defined "bad" as not in the best financial interest of the majority of voters.
But I still believe in Mr. Jefferson's "grand experiment" -- his name for the Constitution. Just needs some amendments to repair the voting process.
It happened with Gore before... The Electoral<br />
College is obsolete!<br />
The President is ahead with the popular vote<br />
and the Electoral College. 12:45am est
Didn't seem to bother Bush.
Yes, but if thousands hadn't been "dropped" from the rolls we probably wouldn't be wondering about the popular vote.
Yes I do. But it's what we do here.
Heartily agreed -- how do we get change past the Powers That Be? Need to fix gerrymandering also, and do something about those TV commercials and robocalls.
No the purpose of the electoral college is to keep things confusing for the electorate.
The reason that the founding fathers created the Electoral College was because people weren't informed enough to make the final decisions. Now that we have the internet and T.V., I think we're informed enough to just ba<x>se the election on the popular vote.
They're never gonna get rid of it though, It's because California and New York are usually Democratic with a lot of electoral votes. They don't wanna loose one of the only things that has kept them winning.
Umm, *well* informed by TV? Massively overinformed, blathered at, pushed into no-compromise partisanship, given sound bites when thoughtful comments on the really difficult issues come up. The intertubes, same or worse, almost everyone just listens to their own echo chamber.
Don't know the answer, agreed that the EC has outlived its purpose. Don't know how to make it part of a fixed election system, either, not confident that natural error rates and gerrymandering will make the system more representative.
We are completely over-informed! Thank you, I forgot what I was going to say on that perspective while writing this! :)
it has always been this way make a amendment to the Constitution blasphemy I say and we need a lot of it
Agreed, we need a lot of it. Other option is frustrated people tearing up the streets again, bad for business.
They're still counting, it's not a sure thing that Romney won the popular.
Well, we're not really a complete direct democracy.
Depends on who you ask. Liberals cried when Bush won the electoral vote and ***** (Gore) won the popular vote. Hmm I wonder what they think now that situations have reversed? HA not need to tell me I already know. :p
we should rid the system.. unless my person is winning
I do not feel the need to elect persons to maybe or maybe not vote my vote. That is just one reason I do not vote.
No, not really. First of all, for that to happen the popular vote would need to be extremely close with no candidate having a majority of the vote. There is no mandate so theres no real decisive winner. Secondly, on the vast majority of important issues, theres no difference between the 2 candidates anyway.