This is definitely something I've thought about a good bit but I've never been able to even lean one way or the other. Simple fact is we just don't know enough to make a an educated guess either way. On a side note finding the pattern in the uncertainty principle is the basis for core technology in the MMO EVE Online.
Pi exists.<br />
It's not random, duh.
But pi could contain literally everything known to man.
So nothing can be random, because pi exists.
Pi is everything.
You can derive a masterpiece from it, you can derive a novel, a lame pop song, silly games, and stupid names.
Nothing is random.
Even most 'shuffle' on playlists aren't truly random. If they were, you'd hear the same song twice in a row on occasion. Maybe three times in a row. Or four.
But they cancel out that bit, so it's only somewhat random - but never playing the same song twice in a row.
This is difficult to explain, but no. Random is just a word, a feeling, but it's never a fact.
Wow, you just completely blew my mind and I will think about this for days straight now :D Good question.
Before I read this, I always thought everything is just a coincidence...but I'm not so sure now! But at the start, there must have been ONE random thing that caused the system to even come into existence?
Yea I had statistics at High School and always loved it, and can't understand why everyone seems to hate their compulsory STATS paper at uni :)
Maybe you should ask him out on a date ;)
For one thing, we had the original Uncertainty Principle before fractals and there is no escaping that the better known one canonical variable the worse knowable the other. It really doesn't "render randomness" at all.<br />
What exactly are you referring to in "random" special fog effects? It isn't random: when they blow smoke there is some and where they don't there is none.<br />
It's 3:48AM and I'm going to watch the Resident Evil Trilogy for hours on end. :)
Your username implies a knowledge of fractals which should immediately be that they are specifically generated by predictable iterative algorithms, i. e., not random in RL or rendered by computer in non-random equations.
z(n+1) = [z(n)]^2 +C
And now a brief (or long) visual of zombies randomly appearing to kill people. There was significant video enhancement there, not at all random.
Even when they blow actual smoke it appears to spread and move rather randomly but it's actually just reacting to its environment...
Fractal: I know you know which is why you should not state there is any randomness. Points are either in the set or not depending on known specifications. Randomness implies no predictability; fractal sets are reproductively constructed using known equations.
Brownian Motion appears random.
The zombies are about to confront the living, so I'll be off for awhile.
True randomness doesn't exist... WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??
Yes, I just watched the part 1. But I mean, what is the ramification of that? What does it mean? I guess it's like asking, "What is infinity?". It seems something that can't be comprehended by human beings... yet.
Well, tell us when you have found a condensed philosophical answer to that...
Ok, so what I'm wondering is... say that there is a pattern to randomness. But the pattern is going to get more and more infinitely complex, and it goes to infinity. How do you solve that?
So, can you actually find every patterns for every randomness? Or no. What if we were to find the "complete theorem", that states: "There is no true randomness"?
Why is the idea that there is no true randomness, somewhat discomforting? :P Perhaps it's because we can't give into "chance", or "fairness" or "throwing dice". It's ironic, isn't, since predictability should equal control and power, and control and power should be settling... but it's not.
No. Although chaos theories do have a dynamic intelligence to them, the universe's natural laws seem to govern all predictable outcomes, making true unpredictability nothing but a quantum dream. But want do I know...that's just my 12:43AM thought.
Couldn't agree more. :) It's definitely essential to our growth as a sentient force.
Surely mathematical chaos means that it's at least close to random? Close enough to really make much difference to anything?
Now that is a random question!
Um, yes it is....think about it.
Is your question about randomness? Why, yes it is. Therefore it is a random question
Maybe you don't understand my answer.