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"If all insects on Earth disappeared, within 50 years all life on Earth would end. If all human beings disappeared from the Earth, within 50 years all forms of life would flourish.” - Biologist Jonas Salk

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that's a fact. but it doesn't actually change anything. sure it enlightens someones opinion, but not enough to act.

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can you think of any parasites which kill themselves as well as there own kind?

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yes we should. but i think we need a leader as no one really seems to striving yet. just some one to light all the matches.

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Yes i can be selfish and think about myself,but i do help others in my jobs and that's a huge plus.

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my question was kinda like if you look at mankind as a whole. but good for being honest.

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No worries. You have a good day

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Though I agree that many are selfish and spent most of their lives consuming. There is a very large number of people who give of themselves everyday in was that often go un noticed. <br />
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Besides doing for my family and my friends I volunteer at an animal shelter when ever possible. I try to live as green as reasonable. Make do with with I have. Re purpose many things we have. Many people do these things as well because they desire all the same things.<br />
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Yes there are a lot of takers out there. There always will be. This only becomes a problem when the takers out number the givers. Our current sociopolitical status has become an enabler of the taker. And we are very much feeling it's effects.<br />
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btw, what did you do for others today?

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you are right, your a good example of what everyone should be leading themselves up to be. the thing is the takers do outnumber the givers, if you don't agree. look at the worlds history and today's society. the question is. how do we turn the tables. that's very funny you should say that. today, i haven't really done anything for others. but the day is not over.

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No question we need to turn the table, but it's not easily down with out a majority consensus that there is actually a problem. Too many people think this (current status quo) is the right normal. This is because we as a society have become obsessed with wrongly placed compassion which allows for those who could do for themselves find it easier not to. I'm afraid the only way to reset this mentality is going to be only through catastrophic things like huge economic and infrastructure failure. In essence it has become a mind set that in the majority people expect things to always be in place. No longer can many fend for themselves breading a dependency on others and government. how many people can start a garden least have garden..
Don't fret over having not doing anything yet. I have confidence that you'll find something in your day to give back.

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this is my last question. would you change the world if there was a clear and righteous path to follow.

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All depends on what is perceive to be clear and righteous. These terms are often loaded with selfish indignation and imposed morals that place limitations on rights and freedoms. I believe in a more balanced world. A direct effect sort of thing where considerations of all things are a personal must before action is taken and when wrong actions are taken (adverse and definitive effects that limits an others personal rights and freedoms). Arbitration must include the established and "inalienable" rights of all.

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well, let's just say. you change it the way you want it to be. As long as it's morally correct world, then i'd agree with you.

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Exactly! the only stumbling block comes when we start to define morals. I think you and I both agree what they are and are good and necessary for a stable, safe and secure society. To walk morally, I first think of "The Golden Rule" ~ always treat others as you would want to be treated. So unless I'm a Masochist (which I am not) those I great each day I think I treat pretty good. lol Thank you for a great exchange.

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yeah, it feels like the worlds losing it's morals. i kinda feel that a book of morals should be written. like every religion has a book explaining how to live and what should be done. but you don't really see a simple book about atheism. like one that kinda just teaches you to be a decent human being. without all this praise to one man and god. well, if you know of such a book. do tell. i'm not saying there isn't a book in existence that doesn't say things like this as there probably are. but i haven't heard of a book as big as a religious one. that actually changes peoples live to the extent that they follow and praise it. if there is such a book where it has all the good morally correct stuff from all the religions in the world without the kinda crazy old traditions. i'm saying this book change change everyone. but it should be the book of the future. as that's what's heading for us. and i'm not sure everyone is ready.

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So true! I'm not sure of any one "grandiose" book such as you speak, perhaps it's being written and coming soon to a book store near you! lol. When we look around though, there are scatterings of writings on our behavior in areas of "morality" void of religion (atheism) but, these writings tend to be void of judgements. For example, "Politically Correct" which, is being pushed by those who have a belief that emotions should never be offended, claim that judgements are discriminatory and goodness will come from watering down or removing every word that "could" be upsetting making judgements on activities that could harm or individual or society a negative and to be avoided. Atheism as it appears now, tends to muddy the water with the lack of want for definitive leadership and definitive judgement. The reality in enacting any "morality" we must discriminate. So if you ask me, there absolutely needs to be some form of discrimination, we have to know wrong from right and the requires it. But discrimination and judgments have been given bad names but the current and populous society. The reason I believe is that any time someone tries to impose a value, I.E. work, discipline, responsibility it rocks the boat of those who have not had these things in their life. Also by nature, some people will naturally seek the lowest common denominator that allows them not to have to make effort. To counter these aspects of humanity it takes a great leader. A person who can motivate the majority of people to desire to "read that book" to in fact want to better for themselves and to care for those who naturally can not. A task quite monumental in it's achievement and miraculous in it's ability to hold a unity in mankind.

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yes, but what are my chances of actually doing it. making this book. convincing people to read it. selling millions so that then the income can go towards the better of mankind. being the voice of this new kind of world. lol. not very high. a kid of 17 doesn't a chance of being heard or listened to by anyone. though i had an indea. that if this type of thing ever happened. the idol would be like an alias. the real people would be the public sharing there idea's. then like they'd be morally checked or whatever to then be promoted to what could or should be. anyway, i very much agree with what you've said. the last thing you said, a unity in mankind. i'd say that's the future.

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If you have the where with all to put your thoughts to pen and paper I would encourage you to do so. It's a big world out there, but I think most are seeking truth. You will never know unless you try. I do know that "publishers" tend to go with what is marketable. Though I also have seen those things that hit home tend to go viral on YouTube. My recommendation, follow your heart and your hearts desires. Use what ever venue you think is apre'po for you to get your message out. You will always encounter cynics, you will do best to ignore them.

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i guess, thank you. though you see, i'd rather try to change cynics. than just ignore them. if i encounter them in real life. like, just have a quick chat. i know some people have some things drilled in their head but everyone can change.

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Do you think I have things "drilled" into my head? :)

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Oh and for cynics, here's an ole' adage
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference."

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well, technically you could say that. for me as well. can you stop being a good person, or has it been drilled in your head to have good morals, and live a decent fair life. not saying i actually know anything. just thinking outside the box.

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I like thinking outside the box, (and people who do) unless It's raining outside my box and I don't have a rain coat! ;) Any way, I could never stop being a good person, (I'm not sure if it was drilled or just appeared naturally) but I don't think being good is being cynical. In fact I think they are opposites of each other. Cynics tend to not be well versed on ethics and will often play the I can't I won't game which leads to not always doing good or right.

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but not are cynics believe in god. oh yeah, lotusfloat asked me if i wanted to start this movement thing with them, just by making website or something. would you be in. like just post idea's and stuff like that. you have to ofcourse. you can do whatever you want to contribute to something like this.

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haha, cool. probably appeared naturally. yeah, i see what you mean.

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I think you should take lotusfloats advice! I'd certainly contribute some of my wisdom! lol let me know when you do this.

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You'd have to be a cynic not to! lol

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cool, thank you. yeah, i'll let you know

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Yes we have become a race of consumers. Humans will eventually make themselves extinct on this planet.

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yes, if we let it. but if the right people are in control. we would have a different outcome. the question is how do you make the whole population of mankind realize this. has anyone thought about that?

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