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Agree with lickitysplit, ChipmunkErnie, and OpusRulez. Join the group "I Know 9-11 Was No Inside Job And 9-11 Truthers Are Deluded" at <a href="http://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Know-9-11-Was-No-Inside-Job-And-9-11-Truthers-Are-Deluded/375144" target="ep_blank">EP Link</a>

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the whole in the pendgon does not fit a passanger plane I beleive it was supose to be a 727 it is two <br />
small a whole..they show a photo shop of that type plane near the building destroyed hole it just doesn't make sence.it was a plot to go to war with IRQAC

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Despair.

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I'm sorry i do not know enough about it to form an educated opinion, but I read your question and i wanted to say that you have made me rethink or at least revisit the idea. I wonder if you could point me in the direction of scientific evidence that would back up your theory. I know i could google it, but there is so much crap to weed through out there.

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I have a story in the "I Believe In Conspiracies" section that you might find interesting. It is from the "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" website. Also my story on "Operation Northwoods" in case you can't imagine the gov doing such a thing. <br />
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Also see: http://www.911truth.org/<br />
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Many excellent videos. Book suggestion: "The New Pearl Harbor". <br />
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It'll make you think.

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I am not an engineer and honestly don't know how or why a building struck by a plane would fail. Were explosives set by demolition experts employed by our government, I doubt it. Having said that is it possible our government knew the attacks were coming with enough detail to stop them and with that knowledge chose to look the other way? That I can believe, this country has a long history of ignoring glaring signs of imminent attacks on high value targets so we could justify and even get public support for engaging in a worthless war for economic reasons.<br />
Do I believe Bush and Cheney orchestrated things to their advantage? Not a doubt in my mind, I am convinced neither of them have any scruples, they are morally bankrupt, heartless individuals that caused the deaths of far too many young men on both sides.

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I absolutely believe it was in inside job! Their's an Illuminati card game that predicted it, along with MANY other worldly events, long before they actually happened.. As Americans, we are so blind to who's really behind the curtain, pulling the marionette strings that dictate our livelihood

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my first thought when i saw it on tv ... was like fight club. its an inside job. I never thought it was terrorists.<br />
I heard along the grapevine that many jewish people were among the people that didnt show up for work or play hooky.<br />
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its a very suss thing, much like princess di's accidental on purpose death.<br />
the footage of the planes in the twin towers is a joke for anyone wanting to see it. fr<x>ame by fr<x>ame.<br />
and the pentagon??? palease! whatever was hit in the pentagon was probably some wonderful thing like abolishing income tax to be announced and a missile from oval office was sent on over there as a late 4th of July inside the building.<br />
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911 was totally an inside job. secret goverment **** no doubt.<br />
theres was an email circulated, that when you fold the american dollar a certain way, it depicts the towers on fire, new world order .... the old order trying desperately to keep us, the masses, afraid, and subservient.<br />
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pessimistic enough?? :)

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I am sorry, but I have a very difficult time being civil to conspiracy theorists. I watched the second aircraft hit the tower. I watched the towers collapse in real time. I know people, who are friends who were in the Pentagon and were nearly killed. I saw the security camera videos of the aircraft just before it struck the building. I know people who were high up in the investigation of the Pentagon who I pesonally trust and who have personally assured me that a commercial aircraft definitely hit the Pentagon.<br />
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I have read the detailed engineering analysis of the collapse of the twin towers. Everything was legitimate. Everything was plausible. There is NO evidence anyone has presented to me that is at all persuasive that there was a conspiracy or that the twin towers were taken down with explosives, or that the Pentagon was blown up or hit with a cruise missile.<br />
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If you want to talk conspiracies, what about the aircraft that crashed off of Long Island. I saw the video that appeared to show a flash of light emanating from the ground and having the appearance of a ground to air missile that the Government never explained.<br />
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If you have hard evidence, then show me your evidence. I have looked at conspiracy websites about 9/11 with an open mind and have seen NO EVIDENCE. Until you can show me evidence, check yourself into the nearest looney bin because that is as much respect as I will offer you.<br />
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UPDATE: The overall suppositions of Conspiracy Theorists completely falls apart when you look at the simple fact that President George W Bush relinquished the reins of US power without delay or argument in accord with US Law as a result of the 2008 election. Except for the purpose of creating a crisis as an excuse to grab power, no plausible motive exists and the risks far outweigh any benefits. Conspiracy allegations might be more plausible had the events taken place on 9/11-2004 rather than 2001 but the motive argument falls apart with the actual timing.<br />
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Here are links to a couple of easy to understand articles on what happened:<br />
Root Cause Analysis<br />
http://msxm<x>l.excite.com/excite/ws/results/Web/9!2F11%20Engineering%20Analysis/1/417/TopNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true<br />
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Popular Mechanics Article<br />
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842<br />
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Progressive Collapse<br />
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sci/tech/6987965.stm<br />
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The extent and volume of analysis that has been done on all sides is to overwhelming and extensive , a person could spend forever copying URLs and hyperlinks to support whatever position that care to choose. Conspiracists raise paranoid questions without answers, offering no proof. The facts do not support the conspiracy.

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Post a link of the detailed engineering analysis, as far as I knew nothing like this was available. I believe that both sides should be equally represented. It's only fair.my "evidence":Simple list of basic contentions many people including myself and others have with the attacks. http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646A physicists view: http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609<br /><br />
/Why_Indeed_Did_the_WTC_Buildings_Completely_Collapse<br /><br />
_Jones_Thermite_World_Trade_Center.pdf About the towers falling, I saw them collapse live as well. I'm not arguing that the planes didn't hit the towers, I'm simply unsure as to how a plane hitting a building could possibly weaken the supports in just the perfect way the buildings would fall straight down. Also tower seven collapsed as well. How do you Anti-conspiracy people explain this?

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I’ve heard a few theories that 9/11 was a cover up for the announcement of the new Declaration of Independence, giving BACK each American Citizen their protected rights as stated by the United States FOR America... and something about the white knights...enlighten me...

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I don't think so. I can understand why some would have an incentive to do so, but I don't really see the government being competent enough to pull that off. Take the attempted rescue of the Iran Hostage Crisis hostages for example; most covert ops fail miserably. That, and why crash a plane into a building? There are much more compelling ways to go about provoking a war, like a bomb, or, given the "weapons of mass destruction" argument, a chemical attack on a subway. Furthermore, we already were on a hostile footing with Iraq; we bombed it on a regular basis in the 90s, not to mention sponsoring sanctions that starved the country. Remember the "Iraq Liberation Act" Clinton signed in '98?<br />
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Truth be told, it doesn't matter. Whether the twin towers were downed by terrorists or not, the best thing to have done would have been nothing.<br />
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Also, if the government were half the liars the conspiracy theorists claim (which is a hell of a lot, since they're serial liars as is), they'd have produced "wreckage" at the Pentagon, and "found" WMDs in Iraq.

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" Take the attempted rescue of the Iran Hostage Crisis hostages for example; most covert ops fail miserably."<br /><br />
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Keep in mind that was in another country not our own where people are very easily persudaded nothing is the matter. Hitler managed to convince an entire country that everyone but white germans was the enemy and needed to be wiped out. I don't see much of a difference in the scope of the lie.<br /><br />
They did find wreckage in the pentagon, an engine that didn't belong to the plane that crashed into the building. Also the security footage they showed was incredibly unpersuasive, anyone with photoshop and a background in media arts could easily have faked or simply created the footage. Also no footage shows the plane hitting the building all you can see is a SMALL white ob<x>ject hitting the building not a jet.<br /><br />
one angle<br /><br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWiZ2Y8fRg<br /><br />
another angle<br /><br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaCaldJGjmo&feature=related<br /><br />
yet another angle<br /><br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vnu_yiUzls&feature=related

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Jeeze, turn on the TV and watch a documentary and EVERY one of those questions is answered. For example -- no the steel didn't actually burn or melt, it just heated enough to lose the tensile strength to bear the immense load put on it. Or -- yes, they did find many parts of the plane that hit the Pentagon.

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yes of course it was. and pres. Kennedy was killed by space aliens.

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First - Islamic groups have been trying to make the towers tip over for years. They tried twice during the Clinton Administration. The bigest was February 1993, Ramzi Yousef was sentenced to 240 years in prison.<br />
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Watch the "The Making of the Twin Towers" made in 1979. I saw it more than 15 years ago. And rewatched it recently on Discovery Network. It will shows that the towers were tested for jet liner impact to prove they would not fall over. When they were built people were afraid they would fall over. They actually did a wind tunnel test with a jet. Unfortunately it was the late 70's and we have much bigger jets now. And they did not test for jet fuel burning. They assumed that this would be an accident (pilot error) not a planned assault. The towers were also engineered to one day be demolished for a new building. They were thinking ahead to a day when the buildings would need to be removed.

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Yes it was assumed it would be error, however I do not see how that make much difference. Even if the planes hit at much higher speed and had much more mass than older planes, the point is that a building struck from the side will fall towards that side.<br /><br />
If you are chopping a tree down you do it on the side where the tree is most likely going to fall away from you. With a straight building the side that was hit became weaker than the other, speaking from a physics perspective it simply doesn't make sense. Gravity is Gravity. <br /><br />
Also is it just coincidence that as the attacks were going on they were doing a nationwide excercise for just this type of thing happening? That would have made for some real confusion when air traffic controllers started freaking out. Also does it make sense that when a plane was not making radio contact, flying off it's designated course, flying low and violating federal airspace without permission, no one noticed until it was too late? If you even edge into a military ba<x>se while flying they freak out. I have this on good authority, ie from a pilot.

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Nope it was Opec getting mad at the US admin loooking to build a pipeline in afghanistan-threatenning to cut profits for Opec as well as getting our mouths off their croctches. Opec responded with religeous morons who could not get laid in a brothel if they tried to fly those planes into buildings to give the Bush admin a taste reminder of their p e ck e r s. We respounded like the true chimps that we are and pounded the little guy next door-to appease the ignorant public. Yeah our nickers are far dirtier than we first started out being pirates-now we hold up a bible and let the public know that it's allright, cause they hold up this black book with promisses of getting the evil doer's-and most of the yahoos will buy it. I think it is time that people really woke up and realize who the enemy really is-coorporate America has sold us out as well as both political parties-it is disheartenning, because they bring shame on our flag-in my opinion and lie to so many people for self greed.

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You forget that bin laden's family used to live in the US. We escorted them out of the country like esteemed VIPs as soon as Osama's name was uttered. It is the corporations who may have put our government up to this. If you reshape global politics especially where resources are concerned you always see business fighting to get at the corpse of whatever country we've attacked. Hence why we responded so quickly and violently to Saddam's invasion of our business ally Kuwait.<br /><br />
Word must have gotten out in NYC that something was going down, mainly because the twin towers usually had around ten thousand people there on a work day, I find it interesting that there were only four thousand maximum who were there that day. What did everyone decide to play hooky?

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IIE (NO) in Japan.

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Yes I do. Why do you think so, though?

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