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Anything in the spiritual realm scares the **** out of me. The only way to conquer demons is to put on the full amour of God.For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

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I don't find that explicit in the Bible, but it gives no credence to the idea that human souls stay around on earth after death. And it does teach that evil spirits, fallen angels, have a diabolical non-corporeal existence on the earth. Satan has a stake in deceiving people to believe that there are options after death other than heaven and hell, to make people complacent about their eternal destiny. So when you juxtapose these things it leads me to believe that to the extent that ghosts are not merely the product of imagination, they are demons. "Haunted houses" are often resolved through what Catholics call exorcism and Protestants (in a much less ceremonial mode) call deliverance ministry.<br />
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As for the "Holy Ghost," that is simply the King James translation of "Holy Spirit."

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out of all the sites and boards I have been on you have been the only person to of gave an answer that made sense and you sound like you know what your talking about..

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out of all the sites and boards I have been on you have been the only person to of gave an answer that made sense and you sound like you know what your talking about..

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Thanks.

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Phooey! People not in their physical body exist in their beta bodies light bodies, mental bodies, etc. The bible is so flawed. I blog on these things, but primarily all religious doctrine is dogma reflecting the religious "knowledge" of the day. Down with Tebow... Another confused christian who cannot comprehend the dogma of his own professed beliefs.

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2 Corinthians 11:14-15 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.

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Yes I beleive they are demons. Not to say that they are demons who are out to physically harm you. Most demons are here to deceive people into thinking there is a possability of people's spirits being able to hang around after death. They are here to confuse people and therefore bring you farther away from God's word. I used to beleive that when it came to spirits there were shades of grey, but it's pretty black and white and the Bible is pretty clear on where it stands on this matter. My father died years ago and was saved and if I saw his ghost I wouldnt beleive it to be him but a demon in disguise. Also, if anyone is skeptical about the whole ghost thing or beleives they are in the presence of one, even one they dont consider evil or bad, try saying Jesus Christ's name to it and I guarantee you will not get a favorable reaction. If everyone did that in front of these so called harmless spirits, this question would be answered once and for all

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The word demon merely means " spirit". Humans put the negative spin on the word demon in the dark ages. So if you believe in ghosts...well yah they are demons "spirits". Do you believe all spirits are evil ? if you do, you're in trouble then.<br />
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Personally I think that ghosts are emotional imprints in the electromagnetic field and/or subconscious manifestations of one's own psyche.<br />
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You should learn translations and etymology and you will find the majority of the bible does not read as you think it does.

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you should read the bible. It explicitly says that once we die, we cannot return. Also, if you actually read the book you would know that demons are fallen angels - evil - vile. Read all the names God gives to satan and his buddies. As for "ghosts are emotional imprints in the electromagnetic field and/or subconscious manifestations of one's own psyche" wow, and how do you come to such a convoluted conclusion?

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Could you give an example of what you think the Bible does not read as we think it reads?

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There is no such thing as demons or a place called hell. According to the interpretation of a scripture in the Bible it may say that but I never read anything like that.

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How come?

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The bible says nothing about ghost specifically. Trying to explain spirituality is like trying to explain in detail God himself. The bible isn't a handbook on spirituality. It's a handbook to live a holy life. Most people just spew what they are taught. That is why many Baptist might claim demonic activity within Pentecostal Churches and the Pentecostals might claim dead, spiritless Baptist. There is more to this world than what the bible has to say. That is why the bible exist to point you toward a specific way of life for a specific purpose. Trying to explain ghost from the bible is like using it has a science book, ignoring everything we know now about science.

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have you actually read the Bible? Of course it talks bout "ghosts" it warns us not to mess with that because the entities people believe are ghosts are actually demons presenting as "familiar spirits"

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If you are having what you think are 'ghost' or 'spirit' problems in your home, your first mistake is thinking that they are ghosts and/or spirits. <br />
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If you read the Bible...if...In Genesis 6 it speaks of the 'Sons of God' (Fallen Angels) leaving their 1st estate, descending to earth & impregnating human females having Giants as offspring. These Giants became so corrupt that they defiled everything including from animals to human including the human genome by doing what scientists are doing right now in laboratories around the globe. The Lord had to destroy the earth at that time by flooding it, saving of course Noah & his family. These Giants, like humans, had spirits & souls and when they died their spirits became 'disembodied' spirits (demons). Demons are in the hierarchy or army of Satan. Satan is the top dog, then the Fallen Angel's follow his orders, then the demons follow Satan's AND the Fallen Angel's orders. Satan can manifest himself as a light being to people who have no faith in God or Jesus. Fallen Angel's are even able to show themselves as angels of light to people, they even morph into other shapes not necessarily being light. Demons are able to morph but only for a short time, their abilities are far more limited than Fallen Angels. Demons are able to transform themselves into 'familiar spirits'. If you are experiencing ghosts or spirits, these are what you are experiencing, demons. A 'familiar spirit' can appear as someone you may have known in your past that has left this world, i,e. a family member, friend, etc. Remember Satan has an army and they have communication with each other in their realm and it is quite effective. The Bible says that Satan has dominion over this world and the space between the surface of the earth and into outer space. So he has a great system that he has perfected over thousands of years. A familiar spirit could have taken the resemblance of someone they may have encountered in past years, many years before you moved into your house, so they 'roam' around the grounds, inside the house, pushing stuff over (poltergeist) occasionally and at some point in time this familiar spirit gets some attention from the person or person's in the home. There's the foothold...it gets worse.

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Ghost are demons..kjv 1611 read and believe..do not be decieved by the prince of darkness who also can appear as light..once u accept jesus in your heart..God will never leave you or forsake you..so as long as you are saved you have absolutely nothing to worry about because your spirit will go to heaven ..ask yourself this..what do ppl get out of informing others of christ?money? They recieve blessings for serving our creator...he is all love and wants you to know him ...he is joy happiness and peace..you will not find that in the things of this world ...satan might have decieved alot of ppl already but its not to late for u to accept him now...repent and believe christ died for your sins...recieve the holy spirit and live your life to serve him the best you can! Don't play with witch craft ..all you need is gods tool which is the bible..God bless you!

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Ghosts are demons in disguise. First off, everybody who has died is in a deep sleep according to the Bible. If when you die you go to Heaven or Hell, then what happens on Judgement Day? People obviously don't know the Bible. We see all of these ghost TV shows but one thing they rarely point out Is that many times the people who are being haunted usually indulged in some type of witchcraft. You open yourself to demons when you deal with any type off witchcraft which includes using mediums and ouji boards.

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So true. When I die, Ill rot. When my brain ceases to function then I will cease all thoughts and memories. And when Im resurrected to stand before God I hope that Im chosen to stay here and see what this place looks like without corruption or pain.

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When people deny the fact that supernatural phenomena is strictly limited to malevolent fallen angels and the devil, himself, they are only proving that they have been deceived.<br />
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The spirits of those who are human will either pass into the light of God or the darkness of hell. There is no "gray area". They are the minions of the Prince of Lies, and they make a living of deceiving the hearts of men to move them away from God.<br />
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Remember, there is no dark too deep for the light of Christ to pierce. Don't be afraid of them. They are nothing against a strong faith in the Lord.

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I am a Pastor who has some experience with people who are possessed. I have called upon the name of Jesus and these demons have left these people. These demons have reacted violently by knocking on ob<x>jects around the room and making sounds that have to be heard to believe. These were so called "ghosts" who were in the rooms of people have invaded their bodies. Ghosts are demons. I have seen them move ob<x>jects in rooms during exorcisms and seen their works. The Bible says "the soul shall return to God" and the soul who is lost will enter Hell. There is no in between state.

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Ghosts are really evil spirits out to trick people into believing a false view of life after death.Don't let people use the bible as an excuse that ghost's of dead people exist either,just as there is only one true god there is only one true meaning to sc<x>ripture,do you ever notice how those who use sc<x>ripture to support these claims only use parts of text?sadly the majority of these interpretations are either a play on words or a truth mingled with a lie which is one of satans most convincing tools.<br />
Yes these so called good ghosts come to warn people or help them which makes the idea that they are demons so hard to swallow for people,satan does all kinds of things to lead people away from god,for instance healings,satan can make a person sick and then have some false religous healer or preacher take away that sickness in the name of god,then in turn that person blindly and wholly excepts the words of that false teacher that "healed" him.<br />
I always notice that people who are into the "ghost" thing feel that they are empowered by it some how,they think they have power over these ghost's and spirits and it inflates their ego so its a double edged sword as well.<br />
We need to remember that god is his word,there is only the one true god so there can only be one true word not many alternate versions of it,people like to use the bible to make their own sinful and wicked hearts feel better by slicing and dicing up sc<x>ripture so they can accept it without having to admit and give up their evil ways.<br />
Satan is the author of confusion and the lie,the world of spiritualism is nothing but shear confusion,it constantly changes its story but it is the same structured lie the devil has been reincarnating in civilizations throughout history.<br />
The world of ghosts and and winged angelic beings can suck the uninformed person in and carry them away,show me one place in the bible where angels had wings?this is all just paganism mixed with false christianity,sadly 90% of the christian and secular world is following some sort of false doctrine concerning spirits of the dead.<br />
The greatest weapon we have against these spirits is prayer,the holy spirit is no joke,when I say prayer I mean real heart felt honest exposing prayer.<br />
The use of phony things like holy water,herbs,physical ob<x>jects(crosses for instance) are totally and utterly useless in the realm of spiritual warfare,as well is the act of repeating phrases which so many consider prayer but it is not,a man is powerless,to attempt to use these things will only worsen the situation,does it sometimes seem to work?yes it does because satan can make it seem so,again it is the same trick as the faith healing,when he convinces the person that those trinkets and worthless phrases have power over devils and ghosts he has done a much more devious and destructive thing than haunting that person,he has fostered a true belief in a false counterfeit form of religon and that person will teach it to others,it goe

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1 Samuel 28:7-12, I Corinthians 15:39-40, I Timothy 4:1, Matthew 12:43, I Corinthians 12:20. Are just some examples of Ghosts and demons that God warns the human world to stay away from. Luke 8:31-34 talks about a man with many demons in him who haunts a graveyard to scare the townspeople. You have to read it for yourselves don't go on heresay. You have to decide if the Bible is for real or not. Jesus came to save the lost and confused. He didn't do it cause he wanted to he did it because he loved you that much. How many people in your family or friends would do that for you. Jesus bought you with a high price (his life). Won't you invite him in and see how the Bible comes alive for you who is lost.

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Only the biblically oriented would believe this; did you know there are at least 26 versions of the English-speaking bible, none exactly the same (oh, I think I will be labeled an agent of satan now!)<br />
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Much in the Bible was re-written numerous times (King James was a notorious misogynist, and women took a beating from him). Most who are bible-oriented fail to learn about the assembling of the book (Councils of Nicea and Constantinople) and are unaware of the value of the Dead Sea Scrolls. <br />
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Most don't even know that the Bible was assembled hundreds of years after Jesus' death and most documents were written by those who never met him. Now, the question?<br />
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The bible was created as an instrument through which a group of people (men) could rule. And they did. At one point, the church actually tortured people to death to get them to believe as the church would have them do (thou shalt not kill)? The old testament was based on superstition and believe handed down through the ages to explain things such as earthquake, disease, death and more.<br />
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The bible is a book for spiritual beginners. My suggestion? Go to the Source of all that is, and ask for help!

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looks like Satan has another one deceived.

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You are a veritable fountain of misinformation. 26 different English translations of the Bible--so what? King James was not personally involved in the translation. There is a rich body of manuscript evidence of the Bible, and it does not support the idea that it was "re-written" at all, much less numerous times. The Council of Nicaea dealt with the Trinity doctrine, not with the canon of scripture. Not hundreds of years after Jesus, but already in the first century AD the books that became the New Testament were recognized as inspired by the church, while there was some disagreement over which books should be included, and that was eventually resolved. Many of the books of the New Testament were written by men who met Jesus. Paul did not conceal that he was not a believer till after Christ's death, when He appeared to him on the road to Damascus. Paul was well acquainted with the apostles chosen by Jesus, however. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the Old Testament was not rewritten over a span of a thousand years from its time to the oldest other Hebrew manuscripts. It is ridiculous to say that the Bible "was created as an instrument through which a group of people (men) could rule" when the Old Testament prophets were typically out of favor with the kings who ruled in their day, and the New Testament was written when Christians were persecuted by the Roman empire.

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And another manufactured belief system has attached itself through fear so that it can spread. All belief systems declare themselves the true one, and all the adherents believe that only their beliefs are true. It is so silly!

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You also just described every single atheist textbook. Good job! We should never believe books and go to YOU as the source I guess LOL!

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Personal attacks rather than discussion can get you booted. People who engage in personal attacks have reached the end of the intellectual capacity to debate. This is a silly thing to write, and you cannot convince others to your point of view through insults.

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So you disagree. That matters? All of a sudden, you wrote this silly line and those of us who have abandoned your belief system will change back? Or you think engaging in an attempt to shame somebody makes you... ummm... informed? Silliness.

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Wow! who filled your head with all those lies?
Read a book called "The Case For Christ" by Lee Stroble.
He was a famous crime reporter, I think in Chicago. Could be wrong on that. Anyway, he didn't believe in any God, and he got sick of hearing his Christian wife go on and on about this "fairy tale" so he set out to write a book to prove to her that this bible nonsense was all baloney. Problem was that as he dug deep into the evidence, he became convinced that this bible nonsense was not nonsense at all! He became a born again Christian. The book is full of factual information that will dispel every disparaging belief that you shared.
Now, f you are interested in "the" truth, and not "your" truth, then you will buy the book. However, it's been my experience that people who shoot down the Bible have made their minds up, and refuse to actually study for themselves, and are satisfied with believing everything some one else spewed.

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I have so little respect for those who believe in this crap. emotional children and fearmongers. Phooey.

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For a beginners book it sure has you confused. It wasnt written so men could rule. Its not here as a sexist device for you to be oppressed. Thats a matter of evolution and lack of knowledge. The Bible states that this "system of things" will soon end. Men will rule men nomore. That is the reason that YHWH is angry with mankind. We have allowed ourselves to be corrupted by the will of evil. And anyone who believes in "ghosts" but debate whether the Bible is true or not must live in a fantasy world similar to Peter Pan. Debating whether ghosts are good or evil is exactly the same as debating whether YHWH forgets about us when we return to the ground to rot.

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Phooey. When you leave this realm then you will see how your attempts to control others through fear was no act of love.

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Troll alert. 5 blank experiences, 0 friends. Troublemaker.

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The Bible never says that Spirits, ghosts are demons. Disguised or otherwise. It simply has a prohibition on dealing with demons or summoning spirits. (and that was Saul...who broke his own law by consulting the witch of Endor to summon the spirit of Samuel)

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Not true friend. Read the verses I posted.

John VonBronzesnake

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Interesting. I’ve never heard that one before. Could you please tell me where it says that (book, chapter and verse) so I may study it further?

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I will get back to you it's in Revelation get back with you on it.

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Because it screws up their idea of the universe. Think about it; Ghost should make us feel great. When we see one we SHOULD be happy, since it helps us with that greatest of all fears, the fear of death (although, actually, fear of speaking in public is considered worse). So, do we welcome the ghost with open arms? No, we scream, cry, and run like Hell! Why???<br />
My guess is that they see ghosts as a uncontrollable thing in the universe, something that can't be controlled by anything in the universe, even death, the great equalizer. That's scary! Death was a form of control by ancient people, and here's something your tool, death can't stop?? Feet, don't fail me now!!!!<br />
Such an idea of something going against '' God's will'' (read MY will) could only be EVIL to them, or to the people they plan to write to. Any one or thing that says ''No'' to their ideas would be considered a demon.<br />
(Of course, this is Paul writing this and he was one of the biggest liars in the Bible. We know when the massacre of the innocents happened, ten years before the great census of Augustus that brought Joseph and Mary to Jerusalem, yet he has Mary and Joseph escaping the massacre with the baby Jesus. Huh??? Neat trick to escape a massacre ten years after it happened.. Little wonder that most researchers believe that Paul liked to smoke some serious weed that was known to be grown and sold on the island he wrote from) (And yes, smoking stuff that makes you high and have ''visions'' didn't start in modern times. Been around a long, long time, and early Christians used some in early services, as did other forms of worship at that time..)

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You believe in ghosts but not God? That makes no sense. A ghost sighting would never make me happy. Either Im hallucinating or its a demon. God created every single thing. He never forgets his creations either, alive or dead. This means that after death we cannot aimlessly walk the earth for eternity, otherwise there is no God. He has CONTROL over everything. And if God doesnt exist, then ghosts certainly do not either. And weed [from my rememberance] doesnt cause "visions".

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If ghosts were real, wouldn't there be BILLIONS of them walking around?<br />
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Why haven't I seen one then?.. billions of creatures have died.

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you ever watch a haunting on discovery....how can they be demons if we all ahve a ghost.

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Just because its on tv doesnt make it real.

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