I live in a country where Islam and secularism coexist peacefully. For right wing people, does that mean I don't exist?
8 Answers to "I live in a country where Islam and secularism coexist peacefully. For right wing people, does that mean I don't exist?"
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Islam - The Religion of Peace - and since 9/11 they have carried out over 19,956 ( that is in excess of NINETEEN THOUSAND, NINE HUNDRED & FIFTY SIX mutilated, dead bodies, for what? the religion of PEACE? ) deadly terror attacks to prove it. I'd rather be what you'd refer as red neck, right wing werterner ( & a republican ) kafir, than a Islamic nut who thinks the road to heaven is paved with dead bodies. you keep your 'religion of peace'.
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Tell me, how many civilians did we kill in Iraq? Afghanistan? Vietnam? Loas? Cambodia? How many Ranger School and School of the Americas graduates have helped perpetrate war crimes? You've got a hell of a moral highground going for you. We get to ELECT the governments that sanction this violence, they don't get to choose who claims their religion. We're a fu.ckton more accountable for what's done in the name of these United States than they have over what's done in the name of Islam. Chew on that, before you where your redneck title with such condescending pride.
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What country is that? Let me guess? Egypt? No, the Muslims have been burning Christian churches and murdering thousands. Kenya? No, two Obama brothers have been leading a war of genocide against non-Moslems. India? No, the Muslims attacked hotels and murdered hundreds. Indonesia? No, Muslims have been waging a terrorist war murdering thousands. Turkey? No, Infidels live in fear and many have been murdered. Libya? No, Muslim terrorists attacked the US embassy and murdered our Ambassador. US? Nope, Muslim terrorists keep attacking and killing. United Kingdom? No. Muslim terrorists attack and kill there too. I give up. Where?
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Now lets look at how Overly Manly White Men fare in this one, shall we? Not recently, a white man murdered a black boy because his music was "too loud". It wasn't too long ago when OMWM were buying black slaves or treating their wives like property. OMWM also have had a long, brutal history of stealing other people's land and trying to "colonize" the "savages". OWMN are famous for being selfish, injust and immoral. They spread disinformation about minorities, especially women, because they are afraid of losing their position of power in society. They want to rage war against any minority because anyone who is not an OMWM is not worthy of living, in their opinion. OMWM start protest to get the immigrants out of their (stolen) land, despite the fact that they themselves are immigrants and their countries would be **** without the immigrants. Immigrants built your railroads. It was the sweat, blood and tears of immigrants (and the natives) upon which your country continues to survive and thrive. Everywhere OMWM are in power, minorities live in fear for their lives and in fear of being stigmatized! PROUD TO NOT BE AN OVERLY MANLY WHITE MAN!!!!!!!!! :DLike (1)
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Wherever OMWM go, oppression follows. History has proven again and again that they will stop at nothing to satisfy their thirst for power...and greed.
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Okay, I'm lost trying to follow your logic -- what does being right wing have to do with it? If anything, I would think that, particularly in Turkey, being right wing would make it more likely that you would expect Islam and secularism to coexist. Wasn't that Attaturk's main proposition -- a modern, secular society -- after all? And wouldn't he be considered rather right wing by today's standards??
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Right wing westerners
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Frankly, tjschira, many westerners, regardless of their politics, are rather ignorant about these things. Turkey has long been a model of secular Islam, but I'd bet a lot of people couldn't even locate it on a world map. Geography is rarely taught in school and, where I grew up, people even confused Austria and Australia. :-(
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Islam and secularism can coexist peacefully for the most part except in Islamic theocracies.
Don't you mean "peacefully for the most part" or "mostly peacefully"?
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They coexist as peacefully as Christianity and secularism do in our country. Define that however you'd like.
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I don' know why a right winger would say something like that. There is relative peace between Islam and secularism in the USA and obviously France, England, Sweden, and so on.
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But Turkey didn't get that way without Ataturk who blasted whatever relics the Ottomans left, and built up a completely secular state structure, he even changed the entire alphabet
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True, but radical governmental shift is happening all around the islamic world now, the possibility fora successful balance exists. It is not an impossibility, as some have suggested. And Azerbaijan is also pretty secular, and almost exclusively Islamic.
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Azerbaijan on the other hand had a well developed state institution left behind by the Soviet Union. Most of these other countries right now were rotting under very corrupt regimes with stagnant state structures. In places like Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood filled a huge vacuum where the state failed, and that's a tough thing to change from practices that were normal for many generations. Now many of those same figures are shifting from a position of very strong soft power to a more official legal power. Disassociating those roles is a long process I am not saying it can't be done but it'll take decades to do it.
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Brooklyn?????
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Turkey, but it's true in neighborhoods of Brooklyn too come to mention it...
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Where do you live?
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Istanbul, Turkey. And it's fabulously modern, and almost homogenously Islamic. In restaurants They'll turn down the Kesha playing on the radio for midday prayer, but that's about the extent of it...
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Posted by SilenceEvermore Nov 29th, 2012 at 12:36PM
I have never heard a Republican say that Islam and secularism never coexist. Also, that wouldn't pertain to you as an individual anyway.
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Reply by tjschira Nov 29th, 2012 at 12:40PM
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Reply by SilenceEvermore Nov 29th, 2012 at 12:42PM
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