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If a never been touched virgin goes to a gyno and has a full pelvic, pap smear and anal exam how can she still be a virgin, doesn't virgin mean untouched or never penatrated?? I know what a gyno does is much more invasive and penatrating than what any penis can do. So how can she claim to be a virgin after that?? Just because it wasn't a penis makes no difference, the seal has been broken.
thomasedwin thomasedwin 46-50, M 4 Answers Oct 3, 2011

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she hasn't had sex, therefore she is a virgin. case closed.

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That doesn't count. If medical exams counted as sex, every man over 40 that gets his yearly prostate exam would be considered gay. And every woman that gets a mammogram would be a **** star. Medical stuff doesn't count.

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You are totaly missing the point when a girl is a virgin there is a hymin that blocks the opening to the vagina it's a seal that means she is a virgin it's something she gives to one man and one man only, by your logic she could use ****** and a number of other things as long as it's not a human penis she's a virgin. If I put my foot in she's still a virgin, if a doctor breaks it with two fingers or a stainless steel speculum she's still a virgin, if she has sex with a horse she's still a virgin right????

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No, what I said was medical stuff does not count. I never made mention of your foot or a horse. No claim was made of penetration other than medical. However, under your hypothesis, if a baby girl is born without a hymen; not common, but the lack of a hymen is medically possible; she would not be, and never have been, a virgin. Virginity cannot be solely measured by the existence of a hymen.

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...you believe a girl is a virgin because she has a hymen? sorry buddy, that's really ignorant.
some girls tear their hymens when they are young doing stuff like gym & ballet, & some just never had one. are they then not virgins? & then what about men - can they not be virgins?

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A woman's "seal" can be broken by tampons too that does not make her any less virgin. Penetration really refers in this sense to a penis entering the vagina or anus.

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So if I get with a virgin and I do everything except put my penis in her vag or anis she's still a virgin right????

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They dont do full exams on virgins lol

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Yes they do.

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In my country they don't. If a girl is a virgin, which is asked ahead of time, they don't do a full exam.

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What country are you from????

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Russia

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Yes they do I had my first one when I was 15. I had a boyfriend who never touched me under my clothes much less went where that doctor went. Not my decision and I never forgave my mom for that.

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@sweetnotinnicent: what country are you from.

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