If God is love, and God is all powerful... then logic says that love is all powerful too. Your thoughts?
17 Answers to "If God is love, and God is all powerful... then logic says that love is all powerful too. Your thoughts?"
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I don't think God exists. Focus on the feeling of love, rather than on what people tell you is all powerful.
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I want to agree with you but those "feelings" can take us down the wrong road, then what?
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It was said by King David, Jesus, and possibly his brother James~ "Love heals all transgression." All three shared a Crazy Notion that the Reign of our Creator lives in our Hearts sounding in the Greatest Compassion we can do in each Moment. So, take a gamble and go with Yes ;))
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A is B
A is C
Therefore, B is C.
That's actually faulty logic.
Wouldn't it have to be:
A is B
B is C
Therefore A is C?
I'm a bit rusty, so I could be wrong :/Like (2)
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The outcome is the same... away with that rust!
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The problem is that the foundations of your question are all un proven. I think you may encounter a problem mixing logic with the bible. Faith rules Religion and faith is the absence of logical evidence.
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that's ridiculous reasoning in itself; God invites reasoning, "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." Isaiah 1:18
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A man convinced his will is of the same opinion still ! I will not start a endless argument with you. Nice meeting you !
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Love is God, and God is Love. Love is all-powerful. It is the underlying force that creates, perpetuates, and leads each one of us back home.
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God is unproven, love is proven. One can not be so easily compared to the other. Love is known to be very real no question.
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Isn't it ironic that the intangible "love" is proven, but the "intangible" God can't possibly be. Maybe what you consider proven is God's attempt to communicate with you and me.
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Never said god can't possibly be. Just isnt proven. I can't imagine how an all powerful being would be able to attempt instead of only being successful, but I suppose that's the point eh. I prayed every day and night for a good 20 years so it's not like I never tried to communicate with this supposed god.
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The first statement is an assumption. It assumes there is a God and it attributes the characteristic of love to him. Since the Old Testament states that God is vengeful and jealous, and the New Testament clearly defines jealousy as the antithesis of love, there is clearly some biblical contradiction concerning God's attributes leaving one uncertain as to if God is love or jealousy.
The second statement has clearly been proven wrong. The Jews, Christians, and Muslims have, through out history, been defeated by nations which practiced other religions. If God was all powerful, they would never loose against the opposing God.
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Post script. I do believe that God is love, I just don't buy into the idea that any one religion has a monopoly on him/her.
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jealousy is one aspect of love; to understand the "vengeful" description, I suspect we need God's all-viewing perspective; I'm certain in the end it will be clearly understood inside His love characteristics
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Yes, but it's a metaphor. What it is can't be expressed in mere words.
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Exactly! In the Christian faith that's one reason WHY God sent Jesus to us... because we needed a visual model!
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yer, and Steff is intelligent.... then logic says that football pla yers are all necessarily intelligent.
No. Just because an individual has Characteristic A, and Characteristic B, doesn't mean that Characteristic A and B are necessarily associated.
The fact that God is love and God is all-powerful does not mean that love is necessarily all-powerful.
Let's put it backward:
If God is powerful, and God is love, then being powerful is love.Like (1)
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Also. Think of the love a single mother has for her children. She works night and day and can't make ends meet, yet her love for her children is incredible. If love were all-powerful, she would be able to make enough money and find a way to keep her kids. But love is not all-powerful. Love is not enough, and love will not put food into those starving babies' mouths. Also. If God were love, in the first place, he would not be allowing millions of innocent children in all parts of the world suffer and starve and witness violence and have violence inflicted upon them. So, if the first part of your premise (God is love) is true, then the second part cannot be true (God is all powerful). Either he is complete love and cares about the pain and incredible suffering of these unprotected innocents, yet is not powerful enough to protect them, or he doesn't love them enough to lift a finger even though he is all powerful and could if he wanted to.
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alright, alright, alright (with a smile)... someone has already pointed out I got the A=B thing a little skewed, but I'll re-arm and ask the question, again, another day; but this question sure stirred up some good answers!
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In a sense, yes. But there are different types of love, and that love which is identified with God is agape love. And, since love cannot exist without a living being to embody it, then love cannot be considered an independent force. Therefore, the strength of love must be channeled through a vehicle, which in a sense, becomes part of that power. In the case of God, I think that love is more intrinsic to His being. Like Good would be. God isn't just a channel for love- He defines what love actually is.
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The Greek agape is definitely what I'm talking about... our English is so limited in translating this word.
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amen
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Messed up. God and love is faith; anti-thesis of reason/logic.
Why is it so necessary to make the twain meet?Like (1)
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I'd say the conclusion that faith and reason are anti-thesis is faulty. There a place in the Bible where God says, "Come, let us reason together...". God is alive and He wants to relate/converse with you! (and me, thankfully)
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I give two hoots about the bible. Does the bible elucidate which son ****** mommy to continue the human race? If faith is strong enough, you would not need to attempt to reconcile reason/science with faith. You'd be content. But no, faith needs to be spread. Why? Because if the faith is too weak to attract others, convince others "I am right and you are wrong". Sayonara.
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And if God is evil, and god is all a form of weakness....then logic says that evil is a weakness too. Your thoughts?
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If you think God is evil then you didn't get your information from the Bible. I take it you've had some rough days in your life? Me too.
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Some nice "IFS" there. Got any proof to back it up.?
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The Bible, Creation, my own life experience with God. All good enough for me, and very reliable.
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I am truly glad that your faith brings you comfort. However I was seeking something a little more evidence based and subject to scientific testing. Sorry.
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wow I never looked at it like that. Maybe god is just the sybol for love. I've always known love is all powerful, that is obvious.
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I've been a Christian 40 years and before today I didn't think about it this clearly either. From the Bible, First Corinthians chapter 13.
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I hate all things religous but I do believe in spirituality, and love as the supreme power/force/energy in the universe. I just hate all the religous mumbo jumbo because well, I'm not going to get into that because you seem like a cool dude & i've offended enough people today.
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Posted by luckylassie Jan 18th, 2013 at 2:36PM
love is the greatest force there is , if only we all knew love we could save the world, that easy
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