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If you get out of college $40K in the hole, that is like adding a car payment to your expenses. How can one justify...

How can one justify taking on any more than that? Or even that much when, depending on what you study, you may make considerably less every year of your entire life than someone who welds ships together or drives a truck, never had any such debt, and starts working five years before you do?

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    aesgard - 56-60 years old - male

    Posted by aesgard 1 Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:06PM

    you don't have to go to college to learn nor do you need to go into debt to learn.... sadly that's not a concept taught in college....


    good point and very valid in today's economic climate.

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  1. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:10PM

    Yes, exactly. I get so much more from reading, thinking, working, and talking than from school. All it costs is less time and few dollars for books and internet.

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  2. aesgard - 56-60 years old - male

    Reply by aesgard Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:16PM

    you can do both, work for a living and learn for personal interests, it just takes a different organization and commitment. At a given point you can switch from one to the other or start something entirely different. It's a longer path, but ultimately more rewarding. I think racking up a huge educational debt before landing your first job is the antithesis of higher learning.

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  1. 151rby - 22-25 years old - male

    Posted by 151rby Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:08PM

    It may look bad on paper, but as long as the payments aren't too big compared to the salary, that debt isn't going to seriously reduce the debtor's quality of life. And the important thing is, I'd go insane welding ships or driving trucks my whole life. What I really like to do - science - requires a degree. You mustn't omit enjoyment from the cost-benefit analysis.

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  2. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:13PM

    Very true. One's natural talents and likes must be considered. I question whether most kids or parents do, though, when they rush the kids off to school.

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  3. BarvoDelancy - 31-35 years old - male

    Posted by BarvoDelancy Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:10PM

    An educated workforce help the GDP, there's a bazillion studies to reinforce this. But when nobody can afford an education, the incentive to get one is kind of low. It's like tuition should be affordable or something.

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  4. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:21PM

    And yet, at least in the States, it has increased at rates that make medicine look like a bargain. Third party payments and lemming-like demand have made it possible for schools to pawn off crazy expenses or things that are the proper domain of think tanks onto taxpayers, alumni, and students/parents.

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  5. pengimachine - 18-21 years old - female

    Posted by pengimachine Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:07PM

    Because most people who start college are 18 and don't know any better. Honestly, taking out school loans was the biggest mistake of my life, and if I could rewind my life and change it, I would.

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  6. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:14PM

    I hear that more often than I care to. Keep trucking, child. Get that stuff paid off.

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  7. AvalonWeiss - 31-35 years old - female

    Posted by AvalonWeiss Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:06PM

    Went to public University and boy am I glad I did :) My friend went to a private Uni and is up to her knees in student loan debt..

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  8. MikeWinther - 41-45 years old - male

    Posted by MikeWinther Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:05PM

    I drive truck and love it. I could not do a desk job like my youngest brother does. But he went too university and is making insane money. His company just gave him $4 raise out of the blue

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  9. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:09PM

    I like being on my feet all day, hated desk work. University was wasted on me, and I went back when it miraculously cheaper. I have come to doubt that it will make sense for my kids, given the range of occupations they seem likely to choose from.

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  10. heavyduty1 - 66-70 years old - male

    Posted by heavyduty1 Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:45PM

    Should someone who finishes college necessarily make as much or more than someone who welds ships together or who drives a truck? Also, should a student who has just graduated from college be considering the purchase of a $40K automobile?

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  11. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:58PM

    You are at the heart of the matter. The answer appears to be no, as long as your economy has a free floating labor market, no government wage fixing. It is becoming apparent that many college graduates will never catch up with the welders, etc, even without the debt factored in. I trust society's valuation of labor more than any university administor's.

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  12. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:59PM

    And cars, I was thinking $22K for five years at one rate versus $40K for fifteen or twenty at a lower rate.

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  13. TheOneyouwerewarnedabout - 70+ years old

    Posted by TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:09PM

    A $900 iPhone 5 seems logical :)

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  14. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:11PM

    Told one young child to go get a job of his own if that's what he wants. Doesn't seem to want one so badly anymore.

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  15. TheOneyouwerewarnedabout - 70+ years old

    Reply by TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:27PM

    Lol

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  16. fifilapoo - 41-45 years old

    Posted by fifilapoo Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:08PM

    vote

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  17. oncemoor - 41-45 years old - male

    Posted by oncemoor Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:06PM

    As the average college student will make more than a million more more then a HS graduate only, I would say it is still a good investment.

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  18. TheSquirrel - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by TheSquirrel Nov 12th, 2012 at 2:16PM

    Average means that millions of people are below average. Is it good for them? I'm not trying to be inflammatory, I'm just questioning if it really makes sense at all to take on much debt.

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