Yea, don't use condoms, it'll feel better.
You have to take the lead. Start foreplay with your wife and get both of you undressed quickly. You have to set the mood. If you do not lead you will sit around all night and do nothing.
Oh come on. If the ladies like it,they will get you to like it. To do this you must be sexually liberal. The ladies like to watch too. Not just vice-versa.
play spin the knife. whomever it points to can pick who they want to stab....or be stabbed by.
I have bad experiences with foursomes at home. Uneven numbers tend to work far better. For foursomes I'd strongly recommend going to a swinger club.
And establish up front that everyone can shout stop at any time. Everyone is going to respect that. Swinging is a lot of fun, but you have to establish boundaries.
soooooo....my guess is....it's not really the foursome ITSELF that you're trying to be subtle about and make happen, am I close??
I see it more as you just want the SWAP of it to happen....but in a foursome setting.
Cuz I was involved in a fivesome once and EVERYBODY took part with each other.
So if you're not down to have the girls get down with each other and you and the guy get down as well. then I don't call that a foursome.
have fun tho!
That's a swap. If neither of the women is interested in a lesbian experience, get different rooms or different beds and establish that on every bed there always should be exactly two people. It's not fun to be the fourth while two others are working on the third.
Make rules. Rules make the experience more likely to succeed and more likely to be satisfying to all.
You and a couple make a foursome?