I think the fact that he has blatantly made decisions that waste money and undermine the economy as if he is purposely trying to sabotage this country is reason enough for me not to vote for him.<br />
* side note, if you give "Rules For Radicals" a quick read, you will see that he is using those concepts to encourage discontent and class warfare.
Well, I don't think he's the anti Christ, as a matter of fact he seems to be an intelligent and generally nice guy. It's just that I don't like his politics. I'm sure a few of my good friends agree with him 100%!
defecit Shmecifit....Obama has added more common decency than Bush, that's why I will Re-elect him
Western corporations have been selling other peoples children into economic slavery for generations. Just look at what has been happening in Africa as farmland that should be used to feed the starving is being used to produce tobacco and coffee beans in order to pay off debt that cannot ever possibly be repaid
I know. I am just highlighting the hypocrisy now that the boot is on the other foot. I bet you were not complaining during the good times. Perhaps if you had of been things would have been different.
lol I will leave you to it then :p
Yeah I wouldn't make it personal though. Obama just followed the same Keynesian thinking as Bush and every president before him stretching back to FDR. Also the Fed as usual stepped in to make things as bad as possible so that it could justify it's existance.<br />
Obama is just the front guy for a general ideology or idiotology prevelent in the American economic/political system in a kinda "We're all Keynesians now" way. Even if Ron Paul gets in next time he'd have to fight the entire political establishment to get things through.
It's the wisdom of youth; if it's not sexy like socialism and communism then they're not interested. No-one wants to hear that the solution is are boringly simple as capitalism.
BUSH STARTED WITH A SURPLUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
what are you talking about? look its very simple.
If I start with a million dollars and I spend 1 million and 10 dollars my deficit is what? 10 dollar.
if the next guy starts with -10 dollars and spends 20 bucks guess who has a larger deficit?
**** me running
SEAN IS THE VOICE OF REASON- TWYLA GETS OFF BY THE WORD
Just cause you cite it and write it doesn't make it true
I dont think its the DNC that said when bush took office there was a surplus but ok whatever dude
Clinton did not leave a surplus, there was a PROJECTED surplus in a budget that left no wiggle room for events like the 9/11 attack and Katrina, also it was accomplished by adding the social security fund to the general fund.
I think bringing clinton into this conversation will do nothing more than confuse it. Lets just focus on was there a large surplus when Bush started or was there not.
no he didn't
I have links that say global warming is a fact. would you like to exchange links? oh wait I also have one that says we never went to the moon
surplus?? stop smoking that stuff and come back to reality!
here is the thing. if there was not a surplus as every news organization was saying during the time then that is fine, it just means bush spent more then we thought.
Obama has tried to clean up Bush's disaster..But that's not enough to get re-elected. the country needs more help and voters are ready for a replacement. He needs to work hard to keep his position.
Thats because Obama had to pick up the pieces of war that Bush left for him. Bush also left the economy at tatters, he left it worse that what he got .
come on now, you really think all those blind democrats are going to admit that Obama can do any wrong??? They like to blame everyone else but their own stupidity
you need to read more and not listen to gossip and the finger pointing...still waiting for Obama to "fix" the economy...is spending more then any other president in history his way of doing that????
you fail to ever acknowledge what the expenditures were for, silly, they are for the people OF this country, not the people who own this country with their corporate manipulation of power, like cheney.
Puppets get chosen ... doesn't matter who gets elected
Its only because they now only audited the federal reserve for the first time in 100 years on Obamas watch. I'm not supporting Obama, I'm telling you this things come a long way. The corruption is deep and its begining to show now
I see a depression. Or at least massive inflation in prices of basics like foodstuffs and fuel. If you've got money you need to be wise with it now, not tomorrow. Tomorrow might be too late
I don’t see why people can not dislike Obama for reasons that are not complete ridiculous because there actually are very good reasons to not like him. The only problem with those reasons is that they are activities that the right actually support.
If you're looking at debt as a % of the GDP (which everyone does) Then look at any historic graph about what happened around 1981 when Reagan took office. There's no question about where the debt started. What is in question is whether or not they were necesary changes needed to stimulate economy and growth. I will agree with you about the latter Bush though. Even though the deficit still increased after Bush took office, it had peaked and was on the decline until he lost both the house and the senate, from which it took an unprecedented increase all the way up through today. Whether these changes are necessary and will help, or spiral us into disaster, time will tell. But if you want to talk about overspending, take a look at what F.D.R. did. And also look at where the national debt ended up at the end of the F.D.R./Truman administration. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. Don't get me wrong, I tend to vote conservative on most issues. But basing an entire election on us vs. them is "cutting off our noses to spite our faces."
Um, so was that an agreement or disagreement? I never blamed Reagan for using the deficit. I merely cited both his use of it as a precedent for Obama using it, with F.D.R as an example of when it unarguably seemed to have worked. You might just have easily bought that house, lost your job and went bankrupt (not a wise purchase) but you wouldn't have known that until after you had already spent it. But to me, it seems you are condemning Obama for trying the same techniques as Reagan and F.D.R. I have a whole slew of problems with Obama, but spending isn't on the top of the list. My philosophy is to go without a house at all and live in a cardboard box, until I can afford to buy the house. So in my opinion, they all suck.
If we don't get our debt under control we are in trouble.
Do you think it would be different if someone else was in office?
The West is in its death throes as it China sweeps away all before it economically. The best anyone can do is delay the enviable. You have a standard of living that your grand children will not be able to imagine.
you always do.
have to agree - he's an atavistic bufoon........
What are all the President Obama haters going to do if the Mittster wins, then crashes and burns. The president isn't the one that needs replacing, it is all the political hacks in crongress, whom would Who®e out their mother for fifty cents. Term limits. Look how long those @ssholes like, Kennedy, Byrd, Helms, Thurmond served. H€ll they almost died on the floors of congress and others who served since Washington was President. The only thing these lifelong Senators & Representatives care about is getting richer from insider trading and getting laid by the interns. I have never fiqured out why people keep voting forthe same old Hucksters, election after election. I will not vote for anyone that have served more than two terms. We need a shot of Young Blood in Congress.
Paul Ryan is a fruitcake. We need more moderates not people leaning so far left or right they they are blind to anything except "My Way Or No Way" this goes for both parties. The best don't get elected, he with the most money gets elected, and that is just wrong.
so sad... booooo hoooooooooo
It is one of many reasons to get rid of him.
He is a puppet like every other..
I see your point but I don't have it in me to answer political questions today.