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No, but its sad how ignorant some people are. The holocaust happened, though believe what you want.

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In German it is illegal to deny it happend

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It is in Germany.

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I know

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that is the STUPIDIST thing I ever heard...I've read that a professor who tried to show that there were no traces of the Xylon gas used in the bricks from the ruins of the ovens.......he was taken to court and lost his professorship!! now THAT is incredibly stupid.
To deprive a man of his livelihood due to his belief that's different than theirs!!!
OBSCENE, to say the least!!!

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Should denying the genocide of 98 percent of the native Americans be a crime? Should denying any other genocides in history be a crime? I do not think so. It should be called what it is though, denial of facts for some reasons. It is always interesting what kind of thoughts are being paired with the denial...

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It should not be illegal because everyone is entitled to freedom of speech however every opportunity must be made to counteract using argument and concrete evidence these claims - basically holocaust deniers have the right to deny the holocaust but we should have the right to counter-argue/ridicule/make sure the truth - backed up with hard evidence is out there and be far more vociferous in asserting the reality of the situation than the jackasses that claim it did not happen.

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There have been several holocausts throughout history and I am not sure the slaughter of one group of people should be considered more or less horrible then the slaughter of others. For example I never see these kinds of questions about the killing fields of Cambodia. By the same token I don't think ignorance or even willful ignorance is necessarily criminal. Stupid certainly but not criminal.

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There have been several mass slaughters through out history but never against one group of people for no other reason except their religion - Oh and there were 15.5 million Jews in the world prior to the event and fewer than ten million afterwards. More than a third of all Jews were murdered - no group was ever targeted so extensively in history and never for a reason only of religion. Understand that before the Holocaust was the largest organized murder in history - it was also the cover up for the largest organized theft in history - all property of all these Jewish people was taken by the Nazis.

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well it wouldnt b classed as a crime as its a personal opinion or belief but a lot would agree its a crime that anyone should ever doubt that it happened

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In Germany it is illegal

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good i agree with that

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You can't take away someone's right to their own opinion...no matter how wrong it is.

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True

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People can deny whatever they choose, they can depict what is fact or fiction. "Ignorance is bliss." The Holocaust did happen but we can choose to forget about it or not even learn of it's tragic history. But what you're saying is that those who choose to deny history should be...incarcerated?

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In Germany it is illegal and can lead to a prison sentence

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Horrible. But then that's not entirely fair...people should choose to accept their history no matter how horrid the acts were from their ancestry...

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That's like enforcing them to accept what happened and shove the blame and revolt upon themselves. We can only learn and prosper from our history and mistakes.

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I think what disturbs me most about it is that it seems to be a particular fascist piece of legislation. Im sure Hitler would be proud at the lack of freedom of speech.

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Agreed.

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http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/145-references-to-6000000-jews-prior-to.html?zx=85508560329bdc24<br />
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winstonsmith@theministryoftruth.ls1 <br />
"He was gone, leaving Winston holding the scrap of paper, which this time there was no need to conceal. Nevertheless he carefully memorized what was written on it, and some hours later dropped it into the memory hole along with a mass of other papers." - 1984 by George Orwell, chapter 14<br />
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Wednesday, 8 February 2012<br />
236 references to 6,000,000 Jews prior to the Nuremberg Trial announcement <br />
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CODOH frequenter Toshiro has done an amazing job and compiled a list of the newspaper<br />
articles and books, dating from 1900 to 1945, in which Jews have claimed that specifically<br />
six million (6,000,000) Jews, were in peril, would be killed, or had been killed. <br />
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So far, we have collected 236! The later ones from 1944 and 1945 are about Jews or<br />
their allies, claiming that 6,000,000 Jews had been killed by the Nazis, before the corrupt<br />
German who went on to work for the CIA; "confessed" that was the figure the Nazis had killed.<br />
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Also listed are eight "holocausts" of the Jews. <br />
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Many of the article can be found on my blog, but all can be tracked down with a little googling.<br />
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Much respect to Toshiro for this excellent piece of work.<br />
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1900 - Stephen S. Wise, New York Times, June 11, 1900<br />
"There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism."<br />
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1902 - Encyclopaedia Britannica, 10th Edition, Vol. 25, 1902, page 482<br />
"While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded ..."<br />
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1902 - Samuel W. Goldstein, New York Times, November 27, 1902<br />
"PLEA FOR ZIONISM ... In answer I would say: Does Dr. Silverman represent the 6,000,000 Jews in Russia, 300,000 in Roumania and the 1,000,000 in Galicia?"<br />
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1903 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), September 18th, 1903, page 6<br />
" ... six million downtrodden brethren."<br />
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1904 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), February 19th, 1904, page 2<br />
" ... where five or six million people existed under persecution."<br />
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1904 - The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), October 7th, 1904, page 1<br />
" ... the final and definite deliverance of the six millions of Russian, Roumanian and Galician Jews ... transporting five or six million people over the sea."<br />
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1904 - Israel Zangwill, New York Times, October 20, 1904<br />
"The problem does not relate to the American Jews, but to the 6,000,000 in Russia. The Russian Government has consented to allow the Jews to leave,"<br />
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1905 - New York Times, January 29th, 1905<br />
"He declared that a free and a happy Russia, with its 6,000,000 Jews, would possibly mean the end of Zionism, since the abolition of the autocracy would practically eliminate the causes that brought Zionism into existence."<br />
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1905 - New York Times, November 1st, 1905<br />
"From 1800 to 1902 he caused 6,000,000 Jewish fami

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In Germany it is a crime and people who commit this crime are jailed.

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