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Go eat a gun please.

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Only if it's made out of chocolate :)

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Lots of things occur in nature that we don't condone by law, laws have no correlation to nature.

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So all that talk about us being animals and evolving from them is bunk? :)

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The key word you have used is evolving, primitive man had all kind of norms that wouldn't be acceptable in today's civilised society, that has nothing to do with current laws. We don't make laws that way.

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So, once upon a time, ********** was fine but, as we evolved, it's wasn't?

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That isn't what I said, I said primitive man had all kinds of norms that wouldn't be acceptable today, at no point did mention which norms, you seem to wish to read things that aren't there.

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How do you know ********** wasn't one of them?

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We can't know for sure what all the norms were of a primitive society but there is no evidence to suggest that was one of them, I repeat you are reading things that simply aren't there!

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Since there is no evidence that the mythical primitive man practiced - or didn't - practice ********** why use that argument at all? :)

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You bought up evolution!

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And? You made an argument implying that this was probably a practice amongst the mythical primitive man but then negated it by saying there was no proof of this actually being - or not being - the case. Your tried to pull one over on us by using a nonargument as an argument :)

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You read into things that aren't there, you should see someone about that!

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Orrr perhaps you should critically analyze what you're going to argue before arguing it :)

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Peadophiles are the lowest fcukin scum on this earth <br />
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So you like Peadophiles

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Why is homosexuality legal, then?

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killing is completely natural in nature too

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So why is it illegal?

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It isn't. Animals mate when the female is in heat. An immature female animal will not be in heat therefore the statement is wrong.

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Au contraire mon frere - It's more common in the animal world than you think. Bonobo monkeys for example.

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Yes. (I get what you're mocking too :P)

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:)

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He blocked me for turning his statement around o.o

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LOL!!! Whata moron! :D

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He blocked me too!! I'm in great company I guess, lol :)

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Btw, the consent argument doesn't hold water because, as I'm sure everyone's aware, child prostitutes and children soldiers abound in the third world. These happily consent to engaging in their disturbing behaviors.

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Not sure about all of them regarding the children soldiers and such..some children, legally speaking, do consent to séx with men in their 20s and above though.

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And some animals eat their offspring - while that may be a good idea, I dont think it should be legal

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Why is homosexuality legal, then?

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Nature does not abide by the laws of man, nor does man abide by the laws of nature. That being said, who do you think is going to be around longer - Man or nature?

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Waitaminute, so all that talk about us being animals and evolving from them is bunk? :)

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Of course we are animals. we are the human animal. We must abide by most of the laws of nature, but not by all of the "laws" of nature. How do you think ********** affects the child - takes away his trust for the rest of his life. So in some way man's overruling natural laws is good, but in someways, such as polluting our water supply and our atmosphere, to make things more comfortable for man, it is just self serving and overall destructive. I guess it all comes down to using our brain....our more highly developed brain and our opposable thumbs are about the only things that put us at the top of the food chain. Man has learned to use his opposable thumbs quite well, but his brain - still a work in progress!

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So we're animals but we're not? This is giving me a headache ... :)

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Yes, we are animals, but we use are brains in tempering some of the baser animal instincts. In the animal world, it is "survival of the strongest" , but as human animals, we try to take care of people who cannot take care of themselves...

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Because it's not the same thing.

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What makes you an animal? :)

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I'll go by the dictionary definition of animal: "A living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly"...that sounds like me

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"A person whose behavior is regarded as devoid of human attributes or civilizing influences, esp. someone who is very cruel, violent, or repulsive." I can see how this definition fits with a lot of people :)

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The human animal is very complicated - all of us are different...

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Is this where you are telling us you love your dad in a way that most never get forced into?

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It is possible to fantisize about it, and make plenty of rationalizations for it, as children often engage in sexual behavior on their own, but the reality of vunerable kids getting hurt, tramatized, and emotionally crippled with feelings of guilt and shame is there, and will always be there, and of course laws reflect this reality, despite any arguments to the contrary.

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Are you asking this because of your sexual attraction to your son?

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You're disgusting!

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one word, stupid - Consent

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The consent argument doesn't hold water because, as I'm sure everyone's aware, child prostitutes and children soldiers abound in the third world. These happily consent to engaging in their disturbing behaviors.

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so are you saying that you would deflower a nine year old if she gave you consent? wtf dude?

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I've said no such thing. You have no clue what my moral values consist of. All I've explained is why the consent argument is vacuous, nothing more, nothing less. Instead of debating strawmen why not try and refute what I've actually written?

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People are too messed up to deal with natural reality. It uncovers their evil and they rather hide from it ashamed than shed it.

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********** is legal. Child abuse is not.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/explaining-**********

********** can sometimes be a taboo topic. But it's often in the headlines. What is **********? Who are pedophiles? How is it treated by the medical community?

Here are answers from sexologist Ray Blanchard, PhD, adjunct psychiatry professor at the University of Toronto.

What is a *********?

A ********* is a person who has a sustained sexual orientation toward children, generally aged 13 or younger, Blanchard says.

Not all pedophiles are child molesters (or vice versa). "Child molesters are defined by their acts; pedophiles are defined by their desires," Blanchard says. "Some pedophiles refrain from sexually approaching any child for their entire lives." But it's not clear how common that is.
Does the medical community consider ********** to be a mental disorder?

Yes. The American Psychiatric Association (APA) has included ********** in its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders since 1968.

In the DSM, which is updated periodically, ********** has been grouped with other paraphilias -- which the APA defines as "recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors that involve children, nonhuman subjects, or other non-consenting adults, or the suffering or humiliation of oneself or one's partner."

But the next edition of the DSM -- the DSM 5 -- may instead refer to "pedophilic disorder."

"[Pedophiles] would be diagnosed with pedophilic disorder either if their attractions toward children are causing them guilt, anxiety, alienation, or difficulty in pursuing other personal goals, or else if their urges cause them to approach children for sexual gratification in real life," Blanchard says.
Can ********** be treated?

Yes. Although most experts do not think a person's feelings of ********** are curable, therapy may help them manage those feelings and not act on them.

Some patients at high risk of committing sexual offenses may need medications to reduce their sex drive, Blanchard says.
Are pedophiles only attracted to children?

Some pedophiles may be as attracted to adults as they are to children, but it's hard to know how common that is. That's because most ********** research is based on people who were arrested for sexual offenses against children, and they may tend to exaggerate their sexual interest in adults to seem more "normal," Blanchard says.
Is ********** more common among men or women?

Pedophilic disorder is far more common among men than women, Blanchard says.

Can ********** develop in an adult who had been attracted to adults?

That's very unlikely, although some people may become adults "before they become fully aware that their strongest sexual attractions are still toward children and not toward their peers," Blanchard says.
Are pedophiles typically attracted to children of the opposite sex, same sex, or is there no particular pattern?

Most pedophiles have a definite preference for one sex or the other. But it's tough to estimate the percentage of pedophiles who are heterosexual, bisexual, and homosexual in their attraction to children, Blanchard says.
What would you want people to know about the stereotypes about pedophiles?

"People do not choose to be attracted to children or adults any more than they choose to be attracted to males or females," Blanchard says. "If there is any choice in the situation, it is in how pedophiles manage their lives once they become fully aware of the direction of their sexual interests and the societal prohibitions against expressing them."
How do pedophiles typically deal with those feelings?

Some pedophiles embrace and try to justify their sexual orientation. Others recognize that the idea of approaching a child in real life is morally wrong; they can be frustrated, isolated, lonely, depressed, and anxious, Blanchard says.

"It seems conceivable that the stress of living with pedophilic disorder may lead to various secondary psychological problems," Blanchard says. "There are, however, some resilient individuals who manage to lead productive and successful lives, even though their sexuality remains a source of frustration."
If a man or woman has feelings that may be within the range of ********** -- even if they've never acted upon those feelings -- what should they do?

Get help. "People who are troubled by their sexual attraction to children should seek professional help rather than try to deal with this problem on their own," Blanchard says. He suggests starting with a family practitioner, although it may take several rounds of referrals. Or search for a sex therapist in your city.

Most areas of North America have mandatory reporting laws that override patient confidentiality. "These require the clinician to report instances of child sexual abuse (or probable imminent abuse) to designated authorities," Blanchard says.

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Nope

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Why not?

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