I always did like Greek mythology. That's where heaven and hell come from. Check the bible and get back to me - barely if at all mentioned.

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I KNOW the bible. Trust me.

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Quotes pls re: heaven hell.

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It's true. Most references to hell (if you look at the original translatoin) are actually talking about a physical place outside of the city that we call the city dump.

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Your question is an oxymoron. You mad bro? I'm serious you seem mad.

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Exactly, makes you think doesn't it?

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Yes, makes me think you are failing to understand. You do realize accepting a premise as a hypothetical in order to make a point is not the same as just accepting it altogether?

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If you say so.

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*Sigh* That's not the right attitude to have a discussion with.

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Why? Want me to keep trying when I don't have to?

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You don't have to but I see no point in you continuing to reply to me if your not willing to have an adult discussion. At the moment your doing the intellectual equivalent of throwing a tantrum because your not getting your way.

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I am no child nor an adult, this is merely talking. I do not speak lies nor do I speak gibberish. I only speak the truth and nothing more.

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I'm sure you genuinely believe what your saying but its certainly not the truth. As for this being mere talking, mere talking is what makes humanity great. Never underestimate the value of communication.

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To you it's not but to me it's the truth for it's God's truth.

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But god is the lie.

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In your opinion.

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Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Show me evidence and I will take you seriously. The logical and rational position is disbelief.

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I heard an incredible Christmas sermon about Mary, how she was told that she was one whom was favored by God, and yet she suffered immensely. Did that mean that He was absent? No, not at all, everything did work out in the end. Jesus is a name that everyone knows, even if not everyone believes. His promises did come to fruition in the end, but even Mary suffered, one whom God favored. The point of the sermon was that even if you are suffering, it does not mean that God is not there. I guess... I liked it. It was a satisfying answer for me.

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Very nice.

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I like that. Plus she literally carried God into the world, suffering for his (and everyone's) sake. So too are we all responsible to manifest the divine, I heard a priest preach once.
Then there's good ol' Job, cursed (and later blessed) because God knew he could handle it.

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There is no hell, life is just a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves.

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There you go.

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Repenting means to forgive yourself? I would say that forgiving yourself is much more productive than asking your invisible space god for forgiveness.

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Yes that's what repenting is, realizing you've done wrong and you forgive yourself for it. But if you do not forgive yourself, how could God or anyone else do the same?

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I don't require forgiveness from a character in a book of fairy tales.

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Then why did you bother answering this question?

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I enjoy discussions with theists. It is entertaining to see how they try to explain their irrational beliefs.

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That is your opinion. I have my reasons for believing just as you have as many reasons for not believing.

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Fair enough. I respect your right to believe whatever you choose. Thank you for the conversation.

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Welcome, good day to you.

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This world belong to the "Prince Of Darkness" who is the "Enemy". This is why there's so much destruction on this "Earth". "God" said "He would never "For sake "Us" so I put my trust and faith in "God" and I will not "For sake "God" under no circumstances". Read "Footprints" and understand who carries you when you're in despair.

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heaven and hell are mindsets of precious little similarity, and that in their extremity. that's the view from where I sit (upstage left of center). <br />
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god and lucifer (our respective father and cousin in this narrative) are very special mirrors, as all things are mirrors. even the atheist satanists revere the image of lucifer. wish I remembered that Milton quote about a hell of heaven and a heaven of hell and all that jazz.<br />
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anywho. words.

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