dont like either, these are more about the show, than the meaning. A surprise get away to a place she has hinted she would like to go. and just about the time she gets relaxed, in a way that she would truly love, be it the ring in the wine, or falling from the sky into your hand as you kneel like you are fixing your shoe. you then ask. that is romantic. the others is showboating.

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marriage proposals are a joke.

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