Paul used the jesus mythos a nucleus for his propaganda of rebellion against the state of rome, and anything else that got his goat

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sorry, wrong

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then explain your take please

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If you read Iranaeus there was serious doubt that Paul even existed in ancient times. Only when acts popped up in about 150CE.

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It started after jesus was announced of his disappearance for good at least from his country. The name chrsitian came from a man named steven who went among only the jews in antioch & pretty much scorned the disciples calling them christians and the disciples accepted the name christians, then later the followers of Jesus accepted the name christians. This is in the story of Acts chapter 11. Jesus nor the God ever mentioned this christian word to be given for true followers.

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It grew out of gnostic Judaism and got started around 70CE. Paul was at best a Marcionite and at worst a fictional character because Iranaeus (d 202CE) actually questioned his existance early on simply because there was no record of him. <br />
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Then mysteriously Acts of the Apostles turned up but this was around 150CE at the same time as Luke starts being mentioned. Now people think Luke is earlier but that's because Luke's basis is the Gospel of Marcion so Luke quotes are actually Marcion quotes. Luke and Acts have the same authour, they're addressed to the same Theophilus who was Bishop of Antioch (d 185CE) Futher we can date Luke to 150CE because quotes that can be found only in Luke but not in Marcion appear around this time in the work of Justin Martyr.<br />
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Mark and Matthew both mention "The abomination that causes desolation" and it's destruction which is a Daniel reference and Daniel was talking about the Alter to Zeus (?) constructed on the temple mount. Mark and Matthew must therefore be talking about something similar and the only similar thing was the Temple of Jupiter which sparked the Bar Khokba revolt in 132CE so Mark and Matthew are no earlier than 132CE.<br />
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John is the oldest of the gospels and it has a probable date of 96CE, Iranaeus was certainly convinced that it was written about then and it's theology is so like that of Philo of Alexandria's (d 50CE) that an early date is probable.<br />
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Revelations is the first Christian text, it can be dated by the astronomical references in it to 59CE with a redaction, again ba<x>sed on astronomical references, to around 96CE and it's a heavily gnostic text like John and Philo so an early date is likely.<br />
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So Christanity grew out of Gnostic Judaism around 70-71CE with the eclipse of 71CE marking the death and resurrection of Jesus. In fact when John talks of the death and resurrection of the light, he's literally talking about an eclipse and Jesus was that eclipse. On top of that the whole theology of Christanity including the basis for the nativity is in Revelation. <br />
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Christianity was a religion ba<x>sed on divine revelation hence the references to wisdom "But wisdom is proven right by her actions" (Matt 11 18-20) and "Wisdom is proved right by all her Children" (Luke 7:35) and the original trinity (Theophilus of Antioch, Apology to Autolycus, book 2) was God, the Son and Sophia. Sophia being wisdom, hence philosophy hence in the gospels Wisdom is refered to as a female person, which is a HUGE element of Gnostic theology.<br />
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Sophia then became the basis of Mary and Mary Magdelane when the amount of people claiming to have divine relevations which contradicted the orthodoxy was getting out of hand. This never stopped hence there are 30,000 denominations of Christianity all founded by people getting messages from God. But originally Sophia was the mother of Jesus and Sophia is the woman giving birth while standing on the sun and the moon in Revelation.

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Pretty much Paul (I think) who took the story of Jesus and turned it into a religion that Jesus Himself never preached; Jesus preached Judaism to Jews.

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sorry, wrong

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Sorry, correct

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Ohhh, wait--you mean the ancient aliens from Alpha Cetii IV?

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Paul was a fictional character or a member of the Marcionite branch of Christianity, he never founded anything. In fact there was serious doubt of his existance until Acts of the Apostles magically turned up in around 150CE.

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Well, then, whoever wrote all those epistles and things under his name. At that period there's not telling just how much is fact, how much is fiction, and how much mis-attribution.

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Iranaeus wrote a lot of them and redacted the rest. Some of the may be from an actual Paul but they're not as the Catholics make them out to be. There isn't a Paul guy going around spreading the word as head of his own church, at best he's wandering around spreading Marcionite teachings.

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Then who the heck had the fights with James, Jesus' brother, about whether or not to allow non-Jews into the following? And I'll admit maybe there was neither a factual James nor someone who fought with him, but according to early teachings that the faith was based on.

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Pretty sure it was Jesus & a long time ago & to keep everybody from going to hell?

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sorry, wrong

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I think that people have historically taken Paul's writings out of context from the book, old and new testaments as a whole. It was Rome that tended to make believers more Pagan, and against Torah observance. but in sc<x>ripture, Paul pays for some disciples nazarite vows, to prove to his followers that he was still pro Torah.

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Well if you read Paul it's clear that he was psychotic. When he talks about going to Jerusalem he's talking about the ideal one (gnostic teachings again) aka in heaven. Paul is having full on schizoid breaks from reality.

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