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wtf do Adam and Eve have to do with us? 1. we don't know them 2. we've never talked to them 3. they never invited us anywhere and we've never invited them anywhere 4.they aren't in our family 5.we are not related to them in anyway so wtf do they have to do with us?
darkangellights darkangellights 18-21, F 28 Answers Jul 7, 2012

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That story was concocted by a group of nomadic goat herders thousands of years ago, don't expect it to make a whole lot of sense.

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I agree.God was acting butthurt,and that ain't cool for somebody who has so much power

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Its just like real life, the mistakes we make now (global warming, society, laws, etc) will be the burden of our children, even though they have yet to be conceived they will shoulder our burdens when we are old even if they did not make the mistakes themselves.

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I totally disagree - God has never said that he will punish us for Adam and Eve mistakes, you will be held accountable for ONLY your mistakes.

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I think she's refering to original sin and it's consequences for humanity.

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Original sin is strictly a Christian concept.

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Yep, it is as Puck said - Islam does not recognize the original sin concept, meaning that it does not say human beings are sinning because Adam and Eve have sinned, it only recognizes the fact that God made us as human beings sinners and that we are responsible for our sins or mistakes of course if we choose to make them and be real sinners.

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If Adam and Eve's original sin (break from God) does not affect us, and we are separate from it, then why are we all not born into the garden of eden?

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Being affected by someone's fault doesn't make sense to me, God says in the Quran that everyone has a will and everyone is responsible for his action, because he is just an fair and wouldn't judge us according to someone else's mistake - What Islam says is that simply God has created all mankind including our parents Adam and Eve as sinners, if you notice, God did warn Adam and Eve not to sin just like he warned us, and they did sin just like how we sin, this is our nature, the human nature - Thus, we are not born to be in heaven because as I said we are sinners and God brought us to this life to build the earth and follow his orders, we either sin or we obey him and then everyone gets his reward or punishment at the very end -You might be not able to understand this concept as you are coming from a Christian background and affected by the original sin concept, but it is a very simple and fair concept, we are human being sinners (including Adam and Eve) and that's why we are on this earth, to go through the test of life and then reach the hereafter. But if we were born in heaven, what is even the point? We will be just put in heaven without deserving it? Doesn't make sense and is not even fair, specially that we are not angels to be in heaven, but we are (sinners) by nature not because of Adam and Eve - Hope it is clear.

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Do i hear the sounds of a drone breaking its programming and becoming a reasoning, intellectually driven individual?

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It's called 'Original Sin'. God cannot coutenance sin. Since Adam and Eve are essentially our 'parents' according to the text, we are all fallen from grace by our parent's sin. It's like we inherited it.<br />
But God sent Jesus Christ to do for our sins, so 'original sin' can be forgiven.<br />
That's God's love in action!

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Mass punishment, they do it in the Army all the time. Usually we beat up the a$$hole who started it though.

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Genesis is a crappy explanation for that, and I don't believe it. The larger truth is probably way more embarrassing.

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I asked a question very similar to this some weeks ago. I agree with you.

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Old Testament god was a total jerk, while New Testament god was super cool. Genesis is in the Old Testament.

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I am not trying to be difficult but I am wondering-<br />
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Did God punish you because of Adam and Eve?<br />
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UPDATE: You mother is teaching what men taught her. It is NOT the Truth of Jesus Christ! Let God be true and every man a liar. Get into the Word of God, pray for wisdom from the Holy Spirit. <br />
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It is good to see you did not just accept what she and others has told you. The Holy Spirit is letting you know there is something wrong with their logic or you would not be asking and seeking the Truth. <br />
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God bless. :)

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Not just me my mom is a religious nut and she fills ours heads full of religions stuff everyday she says because 2
people ate a forbidden apple, people die, kids have diseases and people grow old , men have to work
everyday and so on and so on she said every thing bad that happen came from two people eating a forbidden
apple she said its why my ex boyfriend raped me and its why people get sex trafficked its why babies are getting
there mouths raped and and everything bad is happening
that you can think of came from eating a forbidden apple
and then she told me that God cursed everyone because of it and things on earth will get much worst for them
disobeying God she said in the last days on earth God will make it rain fire down from heaven and consume
everyone still living because he is still fuming over the forbidden apple they ate what i cant understand if the
apple was so important to him why didn't he just put it someone that they couldn't reach instead of making everyone suffer so much?

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Wait, you said "not just you"....so you are saying that God has punished you (personally) for what they did? So you were sitting in your room, minding your business and God either went to you or you were taken to Him, in spirit, and He proceeded to pass judgement on you? You were innocent and He said it didn't matter because you needed to still pay for Adam and Eve's mistake? You are definitely listening to the wrong people. These are all lies of the devil. A bunch of dung!!! Do you believe in Jesus? He is who you need to keep your eyes on. Read about Him and trust in Him! Seek following Him. I have seen people make excuses for hurting people. The bottom line is you are going to find, God is not unfair and He does not do things the way they think when it is all said and done. They will see and know. But it is up to you, what you believe. I have been where you are. My mother claims no faith. She sees God as keeping her alive, against her will, simply to make her suffer. And I have felt that too, like her. I still know the Truth of the matter, God.....(the) my Father, did not create us to torture us and He does not do things like the devil does. Yes, of course things can get worse and ?!? They can also get better too. I hope for the latter but regardless, if they worsen, it is not because of what Adam and Eve did (directly). It is difficult for me to explain. Anyways, I pray the Holy Spirit lead you to all Truth and Wisdom of your (our) most awesome, Heavenly Father. Who loves you so much!!! I cannot tell you why I know this, I just do. I know that one day, the whole world will know this though. Blessings. :)

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and nothing in here mentions how the apple connects to us but thank you anyways

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I say you think God punishes us for that cuz growing up, that was the belief in your environment and so you were told, brainwashed to believe that’s how it is. <br />
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The two white people in the magical garden have none to do with you, your ancestors are the chimpanzees which you share 99.9% of genes with...Oh and<br />
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In addition, how can you believe a so-called deity punishes?

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Original sin is the set up for the concept of Christianity. Sin entered the world through one man. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin. Through one mans blood sin was rendered powerless over those who choose to believe.

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Wrong. The punishment for eating the apple was the feeling of shame, eviction from a perfect life in the garden, childbirth, hard labour in order to provide for ourselves, and of course the ability to take in knowledge that can stray us from God.<br />
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Those bad things, rapes etc - they are not God punishing you. They are the result of evil (devil, if you want), which tempts people to sin. If someone rapes someone, or kills a baby - it's because they have turned AWAY from God and now they feel nothing, no morals, no sense or care for right and wrong. It's evil that gets into people, and its the people who give in to it that do those evil things. <br />
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Plenty of people want to blame God for bad things that happen, but that's untrue, God loves you, and wants you to have a good life. It's people that are the problem, not God, and not the apple.

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really? Is this the only truth?

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but if the apple was so ******* important to him why didn't he put it out of the reach of adults with children like minds ever read bottles that says keep out of the reach of children? well shouldn't it have been like that instead of letting everyone be punished for it oh wait never mind because on second thought one disobedience from satan landed him eternity in hell so why should it matter for us?

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This is the truth as I know it. Let me put it this way, if you wake up tomorrow and decide to rob me and set my house on fire - should I blame God, or should I blame you - the human. Who is responsible for the evil just done to me?

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Because it was a test, of faith and trust. A test of obedience. We failed.

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Well, after reading everyone else's answer... I see no one actually researched this question before. I asked this YEARS ago. Didn't care for the preachers' answers, because each of them just echoed what they were told, or had some interpretation that didn't even make sense, nor was supported by the Book. So, I took it into my own hands.<br />
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See, the problem with the Bible is that it is only PARTIALLY translated from the original languages. If you want the rest of the story... you need to finish translating it. Specifically...? THE NAMES.<br />
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"Adam" This is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red", referring to the ruddy colour of human skin, or from Akkadian adamu meaning "to make". In the Old Testament Adam was created from the earth by God (there is a word play on Hebrew אֲדָמָה ('adamah) "earth")<br />
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"Eve" From the Hebrew name חַוָּה (Chawwah), which was derived from the Hebrew word חוה (chawah) "to breathe" or the related word חיה (chayah) "to live". In short, her name means "life".<br />
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So... in a nutshell...? When MAN chose LIFE with the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL over obedience to GOD ("I AM")...<br />
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Suddenly, the story answers that question... ;)

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He's God, he doesn't have to make sense--mysterious and awesome are his manna-fueled whims

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With the same idea I ask you this, why do blacks in America hold all whites responsible for slavery that happened 150+ years ago, I have never owned a slave , have you? What does slavery have to do with us?

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