You know it does not really matter to me...stuff is what it is, no need for me to make comparisons all the time. Personally my take, without the research, but observing over the decades.. is it's about the same both ways, but if you think women have done this more, fine... all I can say is sorry your luck has not been better around that and hope it gets better for you.
Do most men think well of women??? I can't tell by how some of them treat women....<br />
Women are tired of being treated bad. Women will hold men in high regard once men treat us better.
Nate, maybe in 'some' cases, but not always.
either way someone has to throw in the towel
Statistics, please. Otherwise it's meaningless generalisations.
Ah, the same old misogyny, different day. I'd hoped you had something more concrete this time.
LOL. And if the truth ever is, we can address that.
Sure did. The conversation is with you and I'm not in the mood to be "double-teamed". If you have statistics then show them, but otherwise, it's the same old misogynist bs. The fact that you have so low an opinion about women puts holes in your theory, for one thing.
I admit I lost my temper and don't generally do that. Do you think you improve women's opinions about men by asking questions that generalise like this ?
How can misandry be "supported and accepted" when the world is run by men ? That makes as much sense as those nowadays who try to claim whites are an oppressed class. I certainly don't think all men are bad, there are too many that I love, but I look at facts. If you're walking down the street at night, statistically speaking---purely by the numbers---are you more likely to be in danger if a strange man is behind you, or a strange woman ?
Because 98% of men are idiots! The other 2% are steadily working towards the 98%
Now we're getting some statistics lol
Women are fed up with men cause they cheat a lot and can't be trusted, Unlike how men think they know that women when love someone they are to honest and love them truly
Where did you get this factual information O.o?
I can some of this going on but not over all the most situation.
i meant i can see some of this going on..I believe this is only biased on your opinion dear friend,that is all.I hope you don't get low opinions thrown at you by women at least.I can say that.We must first look within ourselves before noticing others.
sounds good,biased on their opinions as well but some opinions out weigh others..right?
I don't agree that most women do this or that most men think highly of women but I would say that the women who do have ill feelings for men got that way from a man hurting her! I'd say generally women hold on to feelings longer but this question is still over generalized and not true
This is the same thing you say to every answer , it's not an excuse it's reality if women keep getting treated like **** you can't expect them to jump at men thinking surely this one is perfect
Well I find it funny that you think so lowly of women you sir are a contradiction and hypocritical not all women are the same
There you go again! I have had some crappy experiences with men but I do not and would not generalize them to say they all think one way or treat women one way. Every person is an individual and has their own actions thoughts and beliefs and this is clearly something you fail to realize so I hope you have an enjoyable time living your closed minded and judgemental life but I choose to look at every person as a separate being
Look.....I'm female and I'm scared of girls and even I don't know what us women think about half the time if we did the secrets beyond life would be revealed....No offense ladies no offense *hides behind couch* <3
because there are truthfully a lack of good father's in the world and women that grow up without father's end up with some type of issue. <br />
I don't have a low opinion of men, but I didn't have a good father. This tends to effect opinions and cause generalizations. I know that there are actually some great men out there, but some people may associate with the wrong type of men because they didn't have a daddy to teach them how a man is supposed to treat them.
it isn't an excuse. Like I said I have a great relationship with men. The actual statistics will tell you that there are way more men who aren't in their kids lives. I am not talking about just bad parents I am talking about absent ones. When you have no father you look to other men who care less about you to teach you about how a man is supposed to treat a woman. Also with a man growing up with no father he has nobody to teach him how to treat a woman and be a good man.
Those women's kids have problems also. You learn from your parents and I am not saying that there aren't women who aren't absent either. There are just as many men who would see all women barefoot and pregnant as there are women who think all men are dogs, those people have had bad experiences. I think the difference is in the cultures in which those ideal exist. Also there are plenty of women who are happy being subservient to the man in their life, but women tend to look at the amount of single mothers out there and get the idea that a good man is hard to find. Men look at those women and see that as the exception to the rule of women being living nurturing mother types. Women by nature are more gentle and caring so it is more rare that a woman be heartless enough to treat her children in such a way. Men are not connected to their children in the same way and it makes them more likely to leave. Yes there are women who are bad parents and are absent but the numbers don't lie men are in the majority there. It is a shame and I think it is starting to change because lots of men are choosing to change that pattern and so they learn from the mistakes of the absent parent rather than repeat them.
That is not the norm. Women go nuts in different ways than men. That is totally off topic. You made a generalization based on what you want to think, but it just isn't true. Men complain about women too. If it were true that men didn't put women down as much, women would not have had to ask for the right to vote or own land.
No it is in our genes to be nurturing and loving. Maybe if the children that got killed weren't murdered they would grow up and talk **** on women. It is not a generalization it is an instinct and well recognized by social scientist, biologist and sociologists. I am not saying women don't talk **** on men, but men do talk **** on women. And the past is relevant because we are still not equal in every aspect. Equal pay for equal work is still not a reality, it is getting better, but we aren't there yet.
by saying that women talk **** and men don't you are kinda talking **** on women so there is a flaw in your logic.
How would you know though? have you talked to all the men and all the women in the world. It is a statement that can't be proven. And I didn't think you were saying that they didn't talk trash at all, I just wanted to make the point that it is still putting women in a place of ridicule to say that they talk bad about men more often. I talk sh!t on both sexes equally because for me I don't care if you are male or female.
Depends on the men who have come into there life...
...NedKelly?????? And rappers who degrade women in their lyrics? <br />
You can't really generalize something like that. There are men who have low opinion of women as there are women who have low opinion of men.
I'm not talking about rappers in general. I am talking about the rappers who degrade women in their lyrics, calling them "hoe$" and other such names... do you think those guys have high opinion of women?
and you've met every average men and took their opinion...? I mentioned those rappers because guess who are buying their CDs and downloading their music??? Ghosts? Stop generalizing based on your own personal experience.
young men to be exact. That's a fact. Look it up.
Probably because men get to f_ck women, which is always awesome, and women have to be f_cked by men, which has to be a nightmare at least 80% of the time.
It is hard for a man to hold a low opinion of any women, when he is hard.
and this proves my point.
Perhaps these men had good mothers and the women had bad fathers, it differs from what I have noticed. A woman would start a relationship with another woman if she was sick of men, however a man would not do the same. They are far more tightly knit than men so they confide in each other when we do not, therefore would only hear one side of the story, points to ponder.
Not sure mate, I think it goes back to a knitting circle mentality.
I can't really speak for other women, but a lot of guys I come across are pretty sexist. And it's been pretty consistent actually. I don't just know one or two guys who are like this. It's a lot.
Well yeah I can't help but take notice of someone who is being sexist. It's hard to ignore. And what do you mean 'and not what your own gender does'? What specific sorts of things is my gender doing that I'm not noticing?
I think that's a gross generalization. Yes, there are women out there who do that, but you don't know me. You don't what I am like. I am a feminist. I am someone who believes in equality for everyone. I would not condone a woman verbally berating any man, and being abusive to him. Just the same, I wouldn't just sit back and let a man condescend and patronize a woman if I could help it. I would like men to just say, "Hey, I am aware that I have privileges that woman do not have." Don't sit there and say to me that "Well we men have it rough here too. Women don't acknowledge their own failings." That is trying to turn this argument around, and IGNORE the things that men do to be like HEY HEY WOMEN DO BAD STUFF TOO.
No I'm not saying we're perfect. I never once said that. All humans are imperfect. Saying that women have privileges over men...is...just interesting to me considering that women had to fight to be able to vote. A woman couldn't own property. There is still to this day a gap in the wages earned between men and women. Women are being killed in middle eastern countries for allegedly having intercourse with a man. Women in places like Pakistan have to always be careful when going outside so they don't get raped. It wasn't that long ago that a woman was raped and her rapist came to his defense with ,"If she didn't want to be raped she wouldn't have dressed so provocatively", is basically what he said. Women are discriminated in the work place because of pregnancies. Employers have said to ME personally that they didn't want to hire me because I might get pregnant. Really.....now what are the privileges that women have that men don't. I'm actually really curious to hear about them, and if you're right I will admit it.
Okay wait wait wait. You're saying that just because women's rights have taken great strides to becoming equal in the past couple decades we should be satisfied, and stop complaining? EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE STILL DISCREPANCIES TODAY. Oh, well Caucasian women have risen to power a lot easier than black people, so we should be happy. I see, I see. I mean I'm sorry that there is still prejudice against people of different races. It's terrible, and I wish it didn't exist anymore. But really, this is an issue of GENDER. You're bringing race into the mix like that should pacify females, and get them to sit back and realize that there are people who have it harder than they do. Yes, racism is horrible, and a lot of times people who are not white have to deal with a lot more crap than white women. However, does that make all the things I mentioned before suddenly okay? The fact that a man told me I wasn't right for a job because I might get pregnant. The fact that women are being raped, and viewed as sexual objects on a daily basis is okay? I've been catcalled, and harassed by men my whole life. But oh, because black people have it worse than me I shouldn't complain and realize I don't have it as bad as they do. Well wow, that just sounds stupid.
How has the female gender perpetuated hardship for others?
There are some women who mistreat other people. Yes. It exists. Women can be abusive and cruel. But that's like a Nazi saying to a Jewish person that, "What I'm doing to you may be bad, but Jews can be abusive and mistreat others as well!" That example is exaggerated though. When you say 'racism and cultural discrimination is bigger and worse than gender', I think that really depends. I'm not going to argue one way or the other on that one, because it just really depends on the individual. Frankly, I'm not sure what we're arguing anymore because I have admitted to you YES WOMEN HAVE FAULTS, which is I think what you wanted.You seem to think that discrimination against women isn't that big of a deal though. I'm not sure if you just haven't seen any of it, or didn't realize it when it was happening in front of you. But let me just tell you that it is real. It exists. Even as a Caucasian woman who is privileged enough to live in the United States I feel the sting of gender inequality. It's not always something really epic like rape or sexual harassment on a daily basis. It can be subtle like a male coworker excluding me from a conversation about cars or some such thing.
Maybe they have been gossiping about us, maybe what we say seems selfish, irrsponsable, conceited and maybe even immature. And when other men from a certain label does something then that makes the rest look bad.
No Sir, I love admire and respect my better half, lol
Some women are very intelligent and notice flaws within people and don't wish to take a chance.
Other women would date a guy in a heartbeat yet may not be single
Sometimes they are single and wish not to date.
It could be many things my reason is naturally because i always pick the guy and they end up being the ones denying me. so i kinda eventually gave up.