Only societies that dislike women and consider them of less worth than men operate that way.
It works in this society and we do not dislike women. Guess that is the exception to your 'rule'?
No, because you absolutely dislike women. Whether or not you choose to admit it is another issue entirely.
I do? Wow. So you dislike the human race? I mean, whether you admit it or not?
Nope. Only certainly individuals, and I admit it freely.
I see. Well I do not dislike women. Despite your protestations.
Naught to do with me either way.
Excellent. Then you are retracting your assumption of all men?
No, I'm saying that if men who believe only women should be beaten want to pretend they don't dislike women, they're free to pretend that. It's none of my business.
Oh I see. When did we jump to beating women?
"Why is it ok for men to discipline women but women aren't allowed to discipline men, in society ?" Taken to its most basic level.
I do not view that as the 'basic level' I think the basic level is in the actual statement. For you to make the leap that men hate women and they 'beat' them shows a hatred of all men on your part. So are you an admitted misandrist?
Nope, not at all. Not all men believe it's okay to only "discipline" women, thank goodness. This question IS over a year old. Most of us have moved on.
Well I would hope that all men who discipline women only discipline them. To proceed to abuse is another matter.i do not share your hope that men choose to abuse instead of discipline.
Yes it is a year old. So what?
So what difference does it make to you what I think ?
I was simply pointing out that you overstated your argument. But debate is healthy in any case.
I simply stated what I believe to be so. Only in societies that don't value women are women denied the adult status that men enjoy, and subject to "discipline", while prohibited from disciplining men. I still believe that.
Then you disagree with the entire world.
Wouldn't be the first time. ;)
Who's society? In mine men and women are equally open to censure.
I'm not unaware of the troubles in other societies. The mother goddess was worshiped throughout history and I have a theory.
Pryor to the institution of marriage and monogamy only the mothers line mattered as paternity was rather ambiguous. Hence, a matriarchal society was standard.
The men became jealous.
Some cave man came along and thought hey I'm stronger than a woman and I should be in charge. I will no longer worship a woman. From this point on God is a man. Thus began the patriarchal society and the change from a matriarchal society.
In order to be in charge men must be feared or respected. Women must be kept helpless and ignorant. My mother was a single mom until I was 17. You cannot fear or respect a man when he's not around to enforce it. My mom fixed her own car, paid the rent, and made dinner. She disciplined us and dried our tears by herself. No dire warnings about dad coming home.
The age of man has deluded some women into thinking we would not survive without the care of a man. Having had the opportunity to speak to a retired Israeli soldier.... She was only 28 and already retired from duty. She wore a flowered dress and spoke with knowledge on many subjects. She was beautiful and could have been a model... instead she was trained for war and had seen combat. We don't need men to take care of us....but we do need them to make more people. And men don't need women but for the same reason.
I care as much for gender rules as I do for race. I believe all people bring a certain spice to the dish.
Lol what a worthless society you exist in honey you need to feel the lick of the belt, you'd submit easily to any real man, not the feminised cast related boys in your world
what society are you living in? here it is quite the opposite, I woman can spend every dime I have and has broken no law
You haven't seen a Jewish household in action, have you?
Perhaps we might have a better society if women did discipline their men more!
Men never grow up, they are always little boys in a big mans body.
Women have two choices with the men in their lives:
First, treat them like the child they are and keep them on the straight and narrow with firm discipline, or
Second, allow them to act like a spoilt brat and walk all over you.
The question I would like to ask (to sane and reasonable women) which would you prefer? A man who knew his place and treated you like a goddess or a "macho" man who thought you were his property and were put on earth to serve him and have his babies?
And also what price would you be willing to pay for your choice??
Because women allow it. Make no mistake, women are weaker than men but we are not without power unless we give it up. Once we no longer accept mistreatment, it will no longer happen.
It is certainly not equitable. What amazes me is the fact that women are treated abysmally in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, and yet American feminists remain silent over the plight of their sisters in these foreign lands.
Because men are the superior of woman in society
Because men don't know when women are disciplining them.
How dare you speak like this!
what are you referring to by discipline? and by the way. This is idiocy at its best. People who are trying to discipline (in other words change) others. Are you know exactly what up in the head.
That's not true for all societies.
True, just the functioning ones.
Well it is what it is. Men were mostly the leaders, and women the followers. It is just the fabric of society.
There may be people that think this discipline in either direction is okay but it is not. It is a myth perpetrated a few and not upheld by the many.
I honestly wish I knew!