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So I'm talking to this guy, and he's single and desperate to hook up(not with me, I find him repellant), so I direct him to a few dating sites. He's had some luck, but he still complains and says he only dates "hot chicks, chubby chicks he would still date but never go all the way". He has a prospect: she's tall, busty and chubby, quite kinky and he's still complaining. Of course he's pretty overweight too, but he has these standards. I pointed out that for example "don't you think most of us want Channing Tatum instead of some chubby guy?" Women like their men to be hot too, but most of us would be called "shallow *******" if we expressed that kind of desire and you know its true...
Lov3intheasylum Lov3intheasylum 31-35, F 12 Answers Feb 8, 2013 in Singledom

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Its equally wrong. At least men have a slight tendency to be more open about their shallowness...

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Men are visual, so of course it may seem shallow

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People are visual.

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Agreed. The older we get, the easier it is to see past the physical, male or female. That's my $.02 anyways

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BINGO!! It's biological.. not behavioral.

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I guess I forgot to say the guy I mentioned is 25..of course if I said such an attitude is accounted for in younger guys I'd sound ageist.

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Oh, Bullshit. Women invented the word "shallow" to describe men that don't Care for fat-*****. I've never heard men use this word to describe women. "Too Picky", maybe.

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Men can be incredibly shallow, where have you been?

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Men are not shallow, boys are shallow.

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Some guys yes, all guys, no. Fat ***** is subjective but I respect you view and you're entitled to feel that way.

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Men look at the whole body of the woman, whereas women look at only one THING, and that is why it works!!!

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Count me as a woman, part of many who don't look at one THING. Sorry.

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money doesn't matter to women?

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To some, yes. However, I have my eyes on a guy who doesn't make much money, so I'm one of a few who aren't.

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It's double standards, Check out the media; Men deserve a hot woman no matter what they look like. Name one time a ugly woman landed a hot man in the movies. It Never happens! Unless the "ugly chick" gets a make over montage she's stuck as comic relief or gets saddled with the most geeky and ugly guy, since "they look cute together". Look at The Big bang Theory, Only Amy's character looks remotely like the type of girl the guys would end up with in real life, the rest are all gorgeous, usually blond, and ALWAYS insanely attracted to their intelligence...Yeah that's realistic...<br />
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Men get legit upset when they're forced to watch unattractive protagonists, there's a whole study done on similar double standards. Audiences don't like black Protagonists, not even black audiences. Is there an interracial relationship in the film? Well you'd better make the whole movie about that, audiences report irritation and annoyance when mixed race couples get little screen time and the "wacky story" of how they met is never brought up. It's almost as if they need a reason for a person to date out of their race.....

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Popular media is fixed for the 18-30 male gaze, what else can I say except its pretty sad.

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Don't complain about the media, Become the Media, I always say.

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You're wrong. And channing tatum is ugly This is also one of the reasons I don't date.

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That was an example

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Good.

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Also, I feel what the media says "women want" has backed you into a corner. You know all women aren't hung up on looks.

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When did I ever say women were hung up on looks? lol. I rarely pay attention to the media. Why? Because it's ****.

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Not being nosey but why it is you say you don't date? I mean it seems like its affected your world view just a little, or am I wrong...

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... I hate marriage, I have little faith in the honesty of people when it comes to relationships, dating brings up bad memories, and etc.

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I know how that is, and respect how you feel. I know I'm being an annoying optimist when I say, you never know what you may find if you take down that wall brick by brick..

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Thanks...

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And you're not being an annoying optimist.

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Thanks. I'm actually a closet optimist lol

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No problem.

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I agree with you 100%! <br />
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I once was being pursued by a chubby comic artist who was a permanent Bache. He was short, fat, and had a rather abrasive and off-putting personality, yet he had the highest standards of anyone I knew! <br />
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He begged me to go out with him, yet he would go on and on about how much he loved thin petite women with beautiful faces. He begged me to sleep with him all the time, and when I refused, he would call me shallow and say it was because of his looks. I finally explained to him that it was not his looks at all, but his shallow personality that turned me off. Then I said, "Why do you even want me, if you're so hung up on these beautiful women?" <br />
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He replied, "Hey, when I get hungry and can't have steak , I'll settle for ramen."<br />
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Thanks a lot, jerk.

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*bachelor

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Those are the guys I speak of right there. Ugh, his soul seems gross.

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They guy is paying.

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There is nothing wrong with having standards. I also like my guy to have a little belly haha ;)

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Standards are good, unless they're insanely unreasonable.

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Why are you a python?

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It's a rattlesnake, so it would be a pit viper, not a python.Snakes are my favorite animal :)

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That's one example... I do not have have unrealistic standards. I'm good looking, with a low weight and average assets, and my standards may as well not exist. I can equally like and be turned on by almost anyone. Sometimes I find the chubby or 'ugly' girls more physically attractive, and that's without even going into the whole thing about inner beauty.

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I'm guessing you haven't been all too brainwashed by what society considered "attractive". Good for you.

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It's more because of this actually...EP Link

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Where's the link?

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It's stopping me for some reason. :/
Oh well.

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Dang and I was really interested.

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I see no link either. Is it on your profile?

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Yes, but good luck sifting through pages to find it.

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Can we have a title at least, so I'll know what to look for? lol

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"And outer beauty is an opinion" listed under the "I Love Inner Beauty" group.

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Thanks :)

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