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I find it astounding that anyone of sound mind accepts the theory of evolution as fact when evolutionary “experts” themselves argue over how it is supposed to have happened. For example, would you accept arithmetic as a proved fact if some experts said that 2 plus 2 equals 4, while other experts said it was believed to total 3 or possibly 6? If the role of science is to accept only what can be proved, tested, and reproduced, then the theory that all life evolved from a common ancestor is not a scientific fact.
maxximiliann maxximiliann 36-40, M 6 Answers Nov 30, 2012 in Religion

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It's a mere Theorem still but not a fact. Those who say the Theory of Evolution is a fact must not know what Theory means.

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And yet the idea of God you accept without question, not a single belief preached by the JW is wrong. Like science though, millions of people debate the who, what, when, where, and why of gods.

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I accept it as truth based on the evidence: http://bit.ly/1197U6R

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As I accept evolution based on the evidence.

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They argue over HOW it happened, not if it happened. Their is no doubt in the scientific community that evolution has occurred. The doubt is how it happened, and even then, its a very small pool that reject natural selection and random mutations. Even then, they would use scientific objective means to prove what's in dispute to be wrong. So far evolution has survived all real scrutiny in the scientific community. A scientific theory is the highest plateau an idea can reach, and evolution is on it. If you're so confident that its absurd to believe in evolution why don't you go about asking biologists instead of atheists? Why don't you use the scientific method you claim you fully understand to disprove evolution? Some of the greatest revelations in science have come from men who just tried really hard and didn't always have formal training or an advanced degree. Surely you're up to that task and not just basically content with trolling us atheists on this matter?

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If there's no consensus over HOW it happened HOW can they know it even did happen at all?

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Your assertion about the way science works is naive. It's about the weight of evidence that can be found to support a particular theory.

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Not at all. I understand it perfectly. If the role of science is to accept only what can be proved, tested, and reproduced, then the theory that all life evolved from a common ancestor is not a scientific fact.

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The weight of evidence for evolution is about the same as that for gravity. Or are you going to start picking and choosing which theories are deemed "scientific fact" on the basis of some other preconception.?
(Incidentally, evolution does not necessarily require all life evolved from a common ancestor, although most scientists do indeed consider that to be the most likely scenario)

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Would you accept arithmetic as scientific fact if some experts claimed 2+2=4 while other experts claimed it was 3 while others still claimed 6 is the most likely scenario?

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The analogy is absurd. I don't need experts to know that assuming 2, +, and = have their usual meanings that 2+2=4.
Likewise, the evidence for evolution is there. You don't even need to listen to experts. In principle, you're free to go and research it yourself - but the key is - to assess to evidence in a neutral unbiased way. I'm presuming your difficulty is because you have some preconceived bias that you are unwilling to discard.

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Here's what the evidence shows: Despite a century of research mutations have not transformed even one properly defined species into something entirely new. Despite a fossil record that strongly indicates that the major kinds of plants and animals appeared abruptly and did not evolve into other kinds, even over aeons of time, denialists insist that all creatures gradually evolved from a common ancestor.

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A century is a very short time. To a geologist, a period of several thousands can mean "abruptly".
In addition to the extensive fossil record, there is also plenty of DNA evidence nowadays.

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Except for the fact that the evolution of one organism into another has never been directly observed. The argument here is that this takes millions of years - which no one has ever witnessed because, well, it takes millions of years - but the fossil record, which is supposed to show a series of infinitesimally gradual changes from one being to another over the course of millions of years, shows the opposite but it is hoped that the “missing” fossils of these intermediate species will one day be found. In summary, the sole evidence for evolution is the assumption of evolution. If that's not circular reasoning, what is? :)

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Perhaps if we introduce you to fingers you can do the math yourself.

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Just illustrating how ridiculous accepting the theory of evolution as scientific fact truly is.

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I am guessing you don't quite understand what a theory is. Science is not about accepting fact, it is about asking and testing questions until you find facts.

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Not at all. I understand it perfectly. If the role of science is to accept only what can be proved, tested, and reproduced, then the theory that all life evolved from a common ancestor is not a scientific fact.

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I have a hunch you're an answers in Genesis fan.

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And I have a hunch you're one of those of unsound mind who actually accepts this twaddle as scientific fact.

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