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Female Circumcision

I am a fourty eight year old Australian woman and wish to be circumcised. Is there someone who can do this procedure under local anaesthetic as I dont want to do this myself. It is deemed illegal?
Friendly9593 Friendly9593 46-50 8 Responses Dec 16, 2012

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I am cringeing .... Just thinking about your clitoris and clitoral hood being removed. I was circumcised when I was 8 or 9 . I still recall the pain of the stitches being removed.

I think its a female's right that if she wants to be circumcised then she can ask a surgeon and he or she will do it for her.I know that i wanted to be circumcised and wanted excessive amount of skin removed and when it was done i noticed it wasn't nearly tight enough.Now i want it done again but by a female surgeon.
If you want excessive amount of skin removed then its your choice and their are surgeons here in South Africa who will do what you ask.I know because i have already been to a female surgeon and she will circumcise me tightly but I've yet to set a date.
Also i think an exposed clitoris looks awesome and must feel awesome too just like my exposed glans feel.Yes it does loose some sensitivity but my glans were very sensitive and almost painful to touch.After circumcision my glans has lost some sensitivity but direct stimulation is still barely manageable even after just more than 10 years of a naked glans! I'm so excited to be circumcised!

Why the **** would you want to do that?

"The raging intactivist known as consa..."
Thank you for the compliment.

"... who's on a constant foreskin crusade..."
Rather on a crusade to reduce a number of misunderstandings about sexual desire and sexual acts, prevailing among the English speaking middle classes. We are all victims of centuries of myths fed by the prudishness of the past 200 years.

"... seems to know everything about doctors who perform hood removal. I don't."
I too have been a groping learner all of my life.

"My experience is that most doctors are taught virtually nothing about the clitoris, and most women are never taught anything about its hygiene."
I agree, although you and I have no way of knowing that for sure.

"There has been a period when some US surgeons specialized in labioplasty and in hood reduction..."
That period began 15 years ago, and is ongoing.

"... but you can't trust them unless they practice the operation regularly. "
Large USA cities all have at least one plastic surgeon who is quite experienced in the matter.

"Some sex manuals until the 1970s mentioned hood removal as a regular operation."
It's only been an option, never common place.

"My feeling is that most Western surgeons would be afraid of being labelled female circumcisers, ie mutilators, if they touched that part of the female."
It is completely legal to do cosmetic surgery to the female genitalia, once a woman is past her 18th birthday.

"Uncapped females have way stronger *******"
We don't know that because we can't measure the intensity of *******.

"...and they smell a lot nicer, just like circumcised males."
My wife smells fine after a shower, and she cannot retract her hood.
If a man has an odour, 15 seconds in the bath will eliminate it. Showering together is excellent foreplay!

I am going to respond without sounding insane I want to say that I wish to have my clitoris removed. Not the labia circumcised. Unfortunately for me it is illegal in Australia. It is a relatively easy procedure that I have found after researching techniques by MD 's from Boston University Papers on the subject. The clitoris is sat in a cradle and removed surgically whilst in the cradle. 2-3 hours recovery period and the patient can return to work two days later. Is there anyone out there that can refer me to a surgeon who will perform this procedure please?

I am very surprised an Australian surgeon is forbidden to remove the clitoris of a 48 year old woman, esp. if you are single. I am confident that the vast majority of gynecological surgeons would refuse to perform this surgery. I am also confident that Medicare won't pay for it. I also cannot fathom your motivation, unless you are a compulsive *********** and believe that female ************ is immoral.

Whatever your motives in seeking this surgery, unfortunately for you glans removal is almost certainly illegal in Australia and even the **** hood removal or entire inner labia removal probably is too.

I think all that is available is mild 'reduction' of tissue.

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Why ever do you want this done? Do you want to lose most of your enjoyment of sex? I just do not understand!
I know several women with bot their **** hood and inner labia removed, and they absolutely love the results. Always intensely aroused! But I cannot see why you want the **** itself removed!

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Is there a single woman out there who agrees with the long comment below by Osiris96??

My wife cannot pull back her hood to expose the glans clitoris, and she easily climaxes after 10 minutes of foreplay followed by 10 minutes of intercourse.
If the clitoral hood adheres to the glans clitoris, or if there is a buildup of unsavoury stuff under the hood, this can easily be treated by inserting a probe between the hood and glans, after an injection of lidocaine to numb the area.

The hygiene of that area has very seldom been mentioned, because the female genitalia have been ultra taboo for hundreds of years. Also, cleaning that area has been feared for the same reason as cleaning under male foreskin has been feared: "illicit" sexual pleasure. Sex positive feminism has tackled this taboo big time (cf. the writings of Betty Dodson), and it is crumbling. Explicit images circulated on the internet have done much to reduce the deep shame that surrounded the vulva. In 30-50 years, it will be possible for mothers to teach their daughters to clean their vulvas properly.

The clitoral foreskin is a major part of a woman's sexual equipment. Playing with that foreskin is how most women **********, and is the most reliable path to climax during partnersex. Hence I cannot recommend that a woman part with hers.

Not all women get pleasure from the hood rubbing against the glans. Some women have excessive skin around the glans, not just overhanging but a double or triple layer of thick hood skin which means the glans is completely or partially inaccessible which is a disadvantage not just for stimulation but also hygiene. Not all women like indirect stimulation, several of us prefer direct stimulation on the glans.

****** and phimosis occur in women too.

Being free of clitoris foreskin is something some of us women desire and can't get done surgically which is a pity because nearly no surgeon will do a complete hood removal in Australia.

I would agree with Osiris when he says that not all women are taught to wash under the hood and in fact many women can't easily retract the hood for washing. ****** is the result and it is something distinctly unpleasant but easily avoided when the glans is either naturally short or fully retractable.

My hunch is that very very few mothers teach their daughters about cleaning under the clitoral foreskin. If that led to common problems, we would know about it, given that anatomical shame is largely gone from written English.

Again, my wife cannot retract and I have never seen the glans of her clitoris. She has never complained of her female foreskin being a hygiene problem. She has no difficulty ************ or climaxing from intercourse, both in a fairly short time. Tumblr is chockers with vulva closeups, and it seems to me that many women cannot expose their glans.

I am surprised to read you say that a fully adult woman cannot get her clitoral foreskin cut back, if that is what she prefers and if she is willing to pay for it privately.

Forget the Mother Nature crap. Mother Nature has given us oranges and ******* but also Aids, syphilis, cancer and rot. The female foreskin is as unhealthy as the male foreskin, but since the clitoris doesn't penetrate, it is less important to remove it, so it has never become common in Western surgical practice, although it remains a perfectly legal and regularly praticed surgery. Nothing in common with FGM, the goal of which is to deprive females of intense ******* and make them quieter. Since most females are not taught to wash under the hood of the clitoris, the skin adheres to the glans, which is both irritating and gradually leads to a difficulty uncapping. We have all seen little girls scratching their slit through their panties, ****** under the hood is often a cause...Women whose glans is naturally uncapped, particularly before sex, have much more intense *******, and they certainly are more pleasant to lick, plus the uncapped glans is usually rounder and larger. Just ask around. A gynecologist can easily remove the little flaps of foreskin from your clitoris but unfortunately, like all surgeries, a surgeon is only as good as he can practice. So you're really looking for a combination of gynecologist and plastic surgeon who has practiced the operation a number of times and knows exactly what he does, particularly since, like all penises, all clitorises are different despite a basic similarity. A plastic surgeon will also be able to pratice labia reduction if you felt you needed that. Don't hesitate to do it if you can. Just expect to have ******* just walking for the first few weeks...as any woman having had the surgery will attest to. After that, you'll get used the feeling of your naked tip between your lips, just like men do. And it will feel a lot more sensuous than having it trapped under a stinking flap of skin.

Reduction of the female foreskin is legal but apparently in some countries removal is not. Many women have excessive **** hood skin in thickness, layers of rolled skin and skin which is long and overhangs the glans. Access to the glans for stimulation particularly oral stimulation can be difficult and I really think that in many cases than are commonly acknowledged, women would like to have the choice to have hood removal if it were available and unemotional and open debate was more common.

****** is indeed a problem under the hood and direct stimulation of the glans is certainly very intense. I agree that a sensitive glans will become less sensitive as it remains exposed. I agree that flaps of skin (particularly loose skin) on the genitals are undesirable. All that several of us women ask for is an equal right to excess skin removal akin to males but leaving the glans intact.

The raging intactivist known as consa, who's on a constant foreskin crusade, seems to know everything about doctors who perform hood removal. I don't. My experience is that most doctors are taught virtually nothing about the clitoris, and most women are never taught anything about its hygiene. There has been a period when some US surgeons specialized in labioplasty and in hood reduction, but you can't trust them unless they practice the operation regularly. Some sex manuals until the 1970s mentioned hood removal as a regular operation. My feeling is that most Western surgeons would be afraid of being labelled female circumcisers, ie mutilators, if they touched that part of the female. Which is most unfortunate. Uncapped females have way stronger *******...and they smell a lot nicer, just like circumcised males.

Every large Australian city has at least one surgeon who will cut back the hood on your clitoris, or trim your inner lips. This is perfectly legal, given your age and given the fact that the surgery will happen at your initiative and nobody else's. The anesthesia will be good, but does not offset post-op pain. No ethical surgeon will cut into your clitoris.

I am a fellow Australasian, and am baffled that you wish to alter the genitalia Mother Nature gave you. First, how your vulva looks doesn't matter. Your willingness to let a lover look at it and play with it is everything. There is no such thing as a weird or disgusting vulva, and there is no industry standard vulva except in airbrushed polite ****.

You will be discarding delicate tissues, rich in nerves, that contribute a lot to foreplay and intercourse. If you can expose your clitoris with pleasure, your natural kit gives you a maximum of pleasure. If you cannot unhood your clitoris, you can still ********** to climax. As the years have gone by, my wife has come to like more vigorous foreplay with her clitoris skin. This would not be possible were she circumcised. My wife is well past menopause. When I run my finger up and down her vertical smile, teasing her smallish inner lips, she still moans with pleasure. When I see on the internet a woman proudly exhibiting her cascading inner lips, I feel the female power, and experience labia envy.

Consa, I really can't agree. I have been looking for a surgeon to remove the **** hood and remove the inner labia. In each case they reply that the skin I want removed is excessive and amounts to 'mutilation' so they will not do it.

How a vulva looks and feels does matter to us women and being unable to roll back the hood entirely is important and not being able to do so is a real problem for me and I am sure other women who would prefer to have the glans exposed for various reasons. The inner labia when protruding and darkly pigmented are ugly uncomfortable as well as being non conducive to feminine hygiene.

Women as adults should have the freedom to elect for such surgery.

Let me assert one thing: large and darkly pigmented labia are not a liability, but are powerfully sexual. They are also rich in nerve endings that enhance foreplay and penetrative sex. I have never heard of ample labia being difficult to clean in the shower. You may have to use your fingers to part them when you pee, but is that a Big Ask?

I cannot blame an Australian surgeon who declines to do as you would prefer, because (s)he fears that the outcome will leave you sexually damaged, about which nothing can be done. I can't blame a surgeon who doesn't want a sexual disaster blotting his professional conscience.

Tastes differ and mine are the opposite to yours. I ask only for a freedom of choice with surgery.