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Feminazis Are Wicked And Cruel

There are a couple of earnest, honest men of EP who, (despite the awesome and robustly asserted intellect of one) get very emotional in regards to their relationships with the opposite sex. Through maturity and experience these fellows have developed some sound ideas on which female talents and attributes should be acknowledged and rewarded, and which should not, for the betterment of society. Quiet, civilised assertions of well thought out and passionately held opinion laid out for the benefit of like-minded men are routinely descended on by hordes of disagreeable, sniping feminists who, with complete lack of compassion and minus-amounts of respect, tear these opinions to shreds. It is not a fair fight. For one thing, these heartless, agenda-driven feminist trolls far outnumber their victims. They drive a wedge between these men and their low-brow MRA compatriots. For another, these feminazis shamelessly exploit legitimate sources of information. With low cunning, they use and manipulate facts and figures to make certain aspects of the men's arguments look weak. Mocking and ridiculing is the typical feminazi stock in trade. Small wonder then, that this duo, largely disowned by even their fellow MRAs, are forced into the untenable position of having to delete comments and block commenters for fear of being out-argued and made to look silly.

Absolutely shameful
damselfly damselfly 51-55, F 21 Responses May 26, 2012

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these people have no shame with out shame you cant not deserve respect

well at least you're making light of em

I hope to be counted among those brave men's ranks someday, but i am still largely under the thumb of the locust like feminists hordes and too frightened to speak out and be punished for my defiance.

Funnier now that the duo is known to me!

Who are they? I must friend them!

They've probably already blocked you

It is not easy at all to think through what "equality" means in practice. There is also the difference between equality of "opportunity" and of "outcomes". The former is largely procedural, and hence legal/constitutional. The latter is a matter of end states and is very difficult to achieve. <br />
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I am not sure what "feminazi" means. I believe Rush Limbaugh invented the word as a term of abuse. I do know what the classic feminism of 1970-90 meant, one I call "prim" feminism, in contrast to "sex positive" feminism. Prim feminism bothers me, but I don't attack it because I see it as going out of business. Sex positive feminism is on the march in a big way, but polite society is looking the other way lol!<br />
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I can't work up any interest in the men's rights movement. I have yet to read anything by Warren Farrell, the Betty Friedan of men's rights. I know what Parental Alienation Syndrome is, and assert that it is beautiful evidence of the power women can have. It is a raw fact that men are more likely to commit suicide, to be incarcerated, to have an addiction, to be sociopaths, to be mentally handicapped, to be innumerate and functionally illiterate. By all the canons of political correctness, men are a disadvantaged class having some members who are stellar performers. I am aware of the deep tensions between black men and black women, and at the high proportion of educated black women who never marry. Condie Rice is not one of a kind.

I can't say I disagree with a word of this. But I would point out that traditionally, perhaps biologically, what puts men at a disadvantage is also what gives them the greater advantage to determine their own lives. But women have been disadvantaged by law - not so much now of course - which meant that if they were stuck with an underachieving husband they were f**ked

A major change in the female condition has occurred during my lifetime. The stigma arising from divorcing an "underachieving" husbands is now near zero. Hence no woman is stuck any more.

Most men do not take education seriously enough to "determine their own lives."

It's not true that women don't get stuck. People tend to throw their all in when they get married, and very often when things go badly wrong they have nowhere else to go

If a woman is fully literate and has some work history, she can leave her husband and move into a 1 bedroom apartment. If she has children, family courts nowadays are quite aggressive in awarding her child support and even spousal support. Women have far more exit options than was the case in 1900 or 1950.

Women's difficulties neatly dismissed. Who would have thought it was so easy for us? Thank you for that

Life is easier for many women, and harder for most men, than you seem to think. The preceding sentence could be seen as a one sentence distillation of my disagreement with gender feminism.

Your inability to see things from anyone else's point of view despite having things spelled out for you, and your default position of you have it harder than anyone else, is already well known.

To "throw their all in", as you put it, is the mark of an imprudent fool.

When I married, I told my wife to keep her small inheritance from her parents in an account in her name only. Ditto for her subsequent inheritances. This is her mad money. When I paid off the mortgage, I transferred the house into her name alone. My wife can live in her house as long as she can pay rates and the power bill. This too is more mad money. Every year, I contributed the maximum possible to her private superannuation account. That account should buy her an annuity of about $1000/month. If she is single when she retires, the state pension plus a private annuity should amount to a bit under $3000/month. If my wife biffs me from her life, she will have to live more modestly, but will not be poor.

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MRAcists are wicked and cruel too. Those trolls regularly come parading into the feminist groups and condemning and criticizing feminists, and common and normal women in general, for their beliefs and what we say. They make conclusory statements, and when asked for proof and facts to back them up, instead of providing any, they block the person who asked that they provide them, and then criticize and bash them, while providing references to biased anti-feminist, anti-equality websites in an attempt to try to prove that what they are claiming is true. They shamelessly exploit legitimate sources of information and so obviously, and ridiculously, manipulate facts and figures to try to make their silly, fake arguments look correct and honest. Mocking, ridiculing, and condemning is their typical stock in trade. Small wonder that they have to delete correct and reasonable comments and block the commenters for fear that they will be out-argued and made to look as silly as they obviously are. They shamefully loose the ability to be respectful and polite. They come in here and attack feminists who don't block them or delete their comments. They think its their absolute right, and entirely their business to go after other people and put them down for how they feel about things, but its nobody elses right or business to do the same to them.

"Proof" and "evidence" in this realm is impossible to come by, because of the fear of feminism that paralyses academic social scientists. There is ample anecdotal and common sense evidence that the demonisation of men that characterises gender feminism, is wide of the mark. A stark fact that the gender feminist narrative cannot explain, is that 80% of suicides are boys and men. I have never been to the funeral of a woman who committed suicide. I have been to several funerals of 20 something sons of my contemporaries. Also, before the War and Drugs (whose end cannot come a day too soon), something like 95% of people doing hard time were men.

Feminism is not about men and boys. It doesn't address suicide in men and boys. Feminism is wholly about equality of opportunity and fighting discrimination against women, nothing more.

This 'fear of feminism' you speak of is either your attempt to shift blame for male weakness onto women which would be despicable and contemptible, and you really ought to mind what you say and how you say it, or else what you really mean is a fear of political correctness. The latter can be fixed by men and boys changing their disrespectful attitudes and realising that their unacknowledged privileges are depriving others. Problems solved both ways

All equity feminists, and some gender feminists, would say that your first paragraph mischaracterise feminism. It is common garden for a social movement to exceed its original remit. Mission drift is always a fact of life. Hence no social movement can be exactly characterised. The people making up a movement never agree 100%.

While your first paragraph may do justice to what "is", it does not do justice to what "ought to be". Many men are discriminated against and are denied opportunities. Feminism, like nearly everyone this century, is blind to the enduring reality of class, a reality that many men as well as women labour under.
Your second paragraph failed to understand what I meant when I said that academic social scientists are afraid of gender feminist anger, and so avoid researching many topics relevant to the truth or falsity of gender feminism. Your second paragraph also adopts a patronising tone of moral superiority that cannot be productive.

Society as a whole doesn't go everyone's way. But you are mixing up class discrimination with y he kind of insidious sexism that closes doors against women to prop up male privilege. Don't blame feminism for male nepotism.

"Society as a whole doesn't go everyone's way."
I invite you to share that wise thought with gender feminists.

Male privilege no longer exists. And some men may enjoy privilege, while many others do not. Some women enjoy female privilege, especially in environments where decision makers fear feminist anger.
Misreading class discrimination as gender discrimination has been a common feminist mistake.
Nepotism is a human failing that in no way is confined to one gender.

2 More Responses looks like u should be eating crow. This group says for feminist who believe in equality...but u are posting this. Go figure. Hypocrite

Was it really necessary to post this 8 times?

(She doesn't understand irony, misunderstood it and it made her angry x 8) looks like u should be eating crow. This group says for feminist who believe in equality...but u are posting this. Go figure. Hypocrite looks like u should be eating crow. This group says for feminist who believe in equality...but u are posting this. Go figure. Hypocrite looks like u should be eating crow. This group says for feminist who believe in equality...but u are posting this. Go figure. Hypocrite looks like u should be eating crow. This group says for feminist who believe in equality...but u are posting this. Go figure. Hypocrite looks like u should be eating crow. This group says for feminist who believe in equality...but u are posting this. Go figure. Hypocrite looks like u should be eating crow. This group says for feminist who believe in equality...but u are posting this. Go figure. Hypocrite looks like u should be eating crow. This group says for feminist who believe in equality...but u are posting this. Go figure. Hypocrite.

I agree with you damselfly, it is shameful when people loose the ability to be respectful and polite. It reflects badly on a person when they attack others for their beliefs, especially when it's none of the attackers' business and they don't fully understand the dynamics in the relationship of the person they are disrespecting.

I'm a feminist but I don't treat men any different than women. I also don't agree with everything feminists stand for. I just believe that women shouldn't be inferior to men and vice versa.

It's abundantly clear in some of the comments above that some of these gals vehemently disagree with your support of equality of the sexes.

Hmm..I am with Penn...lost!

I'm utterly confused, but that's nothing new.

I hope these hoards of horrible feminists will one day allow for a fair fight!

what handicap would you be prepared to take?

Removal of my brain?

Good question, although not as it's meant here... getting harder and harder to find feminists... fading away, and will soon be all gone. Just another aberration in history's rubbish bin.

I would debate you on your claim, since it is factually incorrect... couldn't be much more opposite...regardless I glanced at your profile, I understand why you would post this, I hope you can get some help... in the meantime you'll be in my thoughts.... I hope for your speedy recovery.

This comment above was posted by a goblin^ please shield your eyes when reading..for fear of catching theihatefeministsicknessiliketostayhomeandbakebreadwithnoassistance....from my from my Dom hubby...since he is the BREADwinner...I should bake it.
There r more Fems than u think..obviously know.

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Absolutely shameful.

Fly: I know you weren't talking about me. I get to emotional and to rrappedup in it to stay calm and quite sometimes. Sometimes I let the femanazis goad me into an argument where i lose my cool. However, I don't know of anyone that has been shunned by the MRAs here at EP for being calm and rational. We have certainly chastised people for being misogynist or for advocating violence. But never for giving rational thoughts or for conducting rational arguments. I will ne the first to admit that I have let the femanazis attacks that I have suffered jade me toward even having a civilized dialogue with them. And that I am very apologetic in my views. I would like to meet these two that you are referring to. Maybe I could learn from them. If you could allude to their names or tell them that I am interested in talking with them I would be grateful. Thank you.