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Information On the Instinctual Variants

My friend sent this to me. Thought I'd pass it on here. :)

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Variants for type Four (3 types):

Sexual:

Nicknames: The Novelist, The Artist, The Poet, The Tragic Romantic, The Actor, The abandoned child or lover, The tragic lover, The vengeful lover, The romantic rival, The romantic soulmate, The drama king or queen, The misunderstood genius. 

Sexual (Des. 1)- The Fours of this variant are emotionally intense, and they express themselves through relationships and high-pitch lives. They have a competitive streak, and their emotions toward another (especially their love interests) run the gamut of total devotion and burning hatred. They are also the "face" of romantic poets and tortured artists, working in fervour on their art in between their outbursts of temper. They typically lead very unconventional lifestyles as a kind of personal statement. When in stress fours of this variant express their envy more openly, and can act out through violence or self-harm.

Sexual (Des. 2)- Shameless. Even if it's shameful, I will still get what I want, do anything to satisfy my desires. The more I complain, the more I get (this strategy works well as child, but not as adult). Viking ENVY, cannabalistic drive, competitive hate. Oral aggression - wishing mixed with anger. Sin of Cain - I envy you therefore I kill you. If I envy wealth, I start a revolution. Hateful, outspoken with anger, envy as competition.

Sexual (Des. 3)- At best focused on distinctive competency, works to make the organization the best; at worst, competitive, arrogant ("misunderstood genius"), angry envy, too intense.

Sexual (Des. 4)- The picture of a 4 who is intensely envious and rejecting of 'typical' measurements of acceptance, success, and group norms; tries to stand out; is very elitist, may dress extremely unconventionally/provocatively, some even flashy or gaudy, to kind of 'counter-enviously' splash their disregard of fitting in or being like the rest by their manner, dress, and professed attitudes and beliefs (about which sometimes they can be quite loud, just to measure the shock value or garner the attention). The affected attitude is pride in who they are, and their differentness.

Examples of SX subtypes: Claude Rains (Phantom of the Operah) 4w5, Kate Winslet (Titanic) 4w3, Dianna Ross, Angelina Jolie (4w3, sx/so), Jewel, Judy Garland (4w3), Bob Dylan (sx/so 4w5), Anne Sexton (sx/so 4w5), Diane Arbus (sx/sp 4w5), Leonard Cohen (sx/sp 4w5), Alanis Morissette (sx/so 4w5), Johnny Depp (sx/sp 4w5), Dita Von Teese (sx/so, 4w3).

Social: 

Nicknames: The social commentator, The critic, Designer architect, The refined person, The “Rebel with out a cause,” Alienated idealist, the Truth teller, Public roles that require critiquing, The animal rights activist, The quibbler, The ugly duckling that wants to be the swan and really learns that they are the swan, The social and alienated elitist.

Social (Des. 1)- Social Fours are most characterized by a feeling of shame. They like to think of themselves as completely unique and one-of-a-kind, and can alternate between feeling socially inept and disdainful of others. They are somewhat more socially engaged than the other two variants of Fours, often by adopting "personas" of some sort that they know are idealized versions of themselves. They also identify with alternative groups that in one way or another reinforce their outsider status. However, they can be easily overwhelmed socially and withdraw for long periods of time. Unhealthy social fours are extremely self-conscious and can have trouble with even the most casual human encounters.

Social (Des. 2)- Laments too much, too weepy, too often the victim, self-sabotaging, oversensitive, suffering more than others. NN to suffer - a child suffers to attract mother's love/attention - the way to happiness is through tears. Depends too much on others to ease suffering. Feels guilty for any wish. Most shameful. NN for self-abasement, compares self to others and winds up at the bottom of the ladder. Uncompetitive, insisting something's wrong with me.

Social (Des. 3)- At best, empathic, authentic, appreciative, helps others see outside the box; at worst, too strong a desire to be with the "in crowd," too self-effacing, shy.

Social (Des. 4): The picture of a 4 who experiences a lot of shame and humiliation issues, in front of others; who generally tries to be 'meek/nice' and not make tremendous waves, and somewhat fit in with the group (even if, or because of the fact that, they FEEL 'different' and defective); who wants to be noticed as very "special" and different from 'the rest,' but, deep down, terribly wants to fit in [= be accepted, really].

Social (Des. 5): I can describe them this way: They're kind of like the outsiders who wished they fit in. Not the "F you" outsiders, but the "I wanna join but I'm not good enough" outsiders. They wished they possessed all the qualities of 'regular' people (which they feel they lack) so that they can do what they really want to do: participate in society. This is why they're kinda hard to notice, since they're usually innocuous and not all that attention-seeking. To acquaintances they're pretty friendly and generally try to please, but they can get kinda holier-than-thou and reactive with people they know well, esp. when it has something to do with how they are perceived by others. If you challenge their image of themselves they just FLIP OUT royally and will have a hell of a time trusting you. They are VERY aware of social norms and deliberately try to 'stand out' and kinda "wait around" for someone to notice them. They're not very likely to do stuff to get 'any' kind of attention, just 'worthy' attention. Like they're not going to start a fit to get ANYONE's sympathy, they usually direct their acting towards certain individuals/groups. To others they just try their best to act normal so that no one notices that they're not.

Examples of SO subtypes: Michael Jackson (SO/SX), Howard Stern (SO/SX), Margaret Cho (SO/SX), Jack McFarland from "Will & Grace" (SO/SX), Hillary Clinton (SO/SP), Bill O'Reilly (SO/SP), Rush Limbaugh (SO/SP), Arnold Schwarzenegger (SO/SP), Ted Nugent (SO/SP), Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, James Dean, Neil Young, Lindsey Buckingham, Fleetwood Mac, Jackson Brown, Virginia Wolf (so/sp 4w5).

Self-Pres:

Nicknames: Bohemian, Artisan, Craftsman, Story-teller, Counter-culture hero, Inhibited lost soul, Gypsy, Wordsmith, Wounded healer, Independent learner, The weaver, Individualist.

Self-Pres (Des. 1)- On the average levels, self-preservation Fours are the most practical of type Four. They are very concerned with the mood, atmosphere, and beauty of their surroundings, and can become self-indulgent in meeting those needs. They often have an aesthetic focus, are devoted to high-quality physical or emotional experiences, and can become frustrated if "the shades are off" their ideal. Some have a reckless streak, taking risks and playing with fate, as means to intensify their feelings. Others, while less adventurous, nonetheless fantasize to be consumed in some forms of risky affairs. Fours of this variant also have a heightened need for autonomy which can make them ambivalent and fickle in relationships.

Self-Pres (Des. 2)- Loves suffering. Person who's learned to swallow a lot. Has learned to endure pain without wincing. "see how much I don't complain, don't ask for things - can you love me now??" Passion/NN is to endure - makes a career of enduring. Trains self in pain, like Lawrence of Arabia putting out the match with his fingers, able to endure the desert even the Arabs couldn't. Masochism.

Self-Pres (Des. 3)- At best, systemically focused, advocate of risk/change, tenacious, self-demanding; at worst, self-sacrificing, too autonomous, self-critical/unsure ("noble martyr").

Examples of SP subtypes: Edgar Allan Poe (sp/sx 4w5), Joni Mitchell (sp/sx 4w5), Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis (sp/sx 4w5).

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SX Variants:

SX/SP’s: 
 
This is a very volatile type. They are driven to form connections but have very high demands of their partners. When their powerful fantasies don’t match reality, they become very restless. They take the fire and passion of the sexual instinct and turn it inward. This can cause both brooding and fiery outbursts. Dramatic mood swings are very likely with this type. This subtype of Four could be considered the most classic Four, because of the way they seem to embody the archetype of the tortured artist, although not all Fours of this subtype are artists. Stereotype aside, this subtype does tend to bring their emotions into focus more readily then the other subtypes of Four. What is under the surface with the self-pres/sexual is now bubbling to the surface. This subtype can resemble type Seven because of their drama, passion for experience and tendency to suffer from frustration when life seems dull. Like type Seven, they can seem to throw themselves into experience. 
 
When healthy, this subtype learns to balance the need for passion with the less obvious need for groundedness which can come from solid and focused relationships with others and with their creative outlets. 

sx/sp - total inward gives way to total outward in jerky bursts, usually directed at one person in particular, can't focus on the overall group, but may move rapidly from one total focus to the next 

The SX/SP pursues bonds with more energy and are more likely to "lose themselves" in the feelings of a relationship. The SP/SX is more likely to maintain themselves independent of the relationship, but yet be dependent upon the other person. The reason for this is that SPs consider their mates as part of themselves, basically.

SX/SP: This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self medicating.

SX/SP variants are more likely to idealize other people outside of the relationship, but are unlikely to ever consider cheating, because of the SP secondary. SP/SX are usually utterly faithful and would not likely even think of cheating as this would amount to "hurting themselves."

 
Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.  
 
Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer  

The SX/SP description seems a little harsh and a bit too "feeling triad" biased, although parts of it are accurate. My experience with them is that their sexuality is only slightly inhibited by having the SP in secondary position. The right person brings them out of their "shell" quite easily.

The SX/SP can seem a little selfish in expecting to have their "needs" met, compared to the SP/SX who usually attempt to meet their own needs first and seem "cold" instead of selfish. As I told Marie in the SP thread, they can be really into someone at first and go pretty cold if they suddenly feel that person isn't right for them. On the bright side, they (SP) tend to be the most emotionally faithful variant and are always there for the people who are close to them in their lives. 
 
“You are right about the SX/SP tendency for having some trouble with relationships. The SP variant tends to just look for someone similar to themselves, and they are usually pretty satisfied when they find that person, although this can take a while. SX/SPs often bond with others that have qualities that they find intriguing at the present that might not bode well for them in the future, and realize later that they neglected their SP secondary and are not getting what they truly want out of the relationship. On the positive, they tend to have a variety of fascinating experiences with others, and they usually have a better sense of how people truly click than the SP does.”

The SX/SP usually wants some kind of ideal qualities in other people and the realities of these other people's flaws is sometimes difficult for the variant to handle. On the other hand, it seems this variant gets "taken advantage" of more than the others due to their strong urge to connect and the fact that they do not usually have an excessive number of outside contacts outside the relationship like the SX/SO does. 
 
 
“I was involved with an SX/SP 1w2 for four years, two of them married to her. My mother is an SX/SP 2w3 and has had all kinds of problems with her relationships. I know this variant pretty well. I defer to Jase when it comes to describing social variants, as I do not know this variant well at all. My contacts with the social have been fairly limited. I learned a lot being with an SX/SP and trying what I thought was my hardest to be emotionally satisfying only to find out in the end that it wasn't enough and that I was just too SP for her.”

The Ozzy dvd mostly has value as entertainment. If you can see the sx/sp phobic pattern through all the hijinks, it might be worth it to check out from that standpoint as well. Ozzy would seem to present more of a sx/soc counterphobic image, at least in the past, but the series and various interviews seem to indicate otherwise. He's a homebody with wanderlust, and seems pretty oblivious and indifferent to social concerns (he claims to have no friends, and the show doesn't offer any evidence to the contrary). His life is all about the connective charge he gets from performing, and his attachment to home life, and the split this causes in him.

 
People have pointed out that the sx/sp is Fourish, and maybe it is, since so much is marinating inside. The social in last position can further impede the delivery of the goods which the sx instinct has harvested within, and that could cause the brooding, conflicted, wandering sort of temperament associated with sx/sp on this thread.

I was going to add an observation I've made about SX/SP, but I was too lazy to do it. They seem to either really do the eye contact thing if they are interested in someone or get completely disinterested, you are right. I observe this kind of behavior watching dating shows when the SX/SP females will start out interested in a guy, making great eye contact, and then by the end of the date their eyes are wandering around the room, completely disinterested, if for some reason the man doesn't end up meeting their standards. The male SX/SP might do this too but they are usually horny so they still try to make a play on the woman but you can tell it will only be a one-night stand by his behavior.  
 
Basically, I think you are right in generalizing SX/SP to yourself in that they *can* make great eye contact if they are actually emotionally interested 

A friend of mine gave a good description of the sx/sp energy, as opposed to the sx/so. Both sexual types have a large energy, and tend to be pretty....er....obtrusive in a social setting. The difference is that sx/so's have a smooth energy that flows outwards, while sx/sp's energy goes in bursts. He pointed out that I'll sit there comparatively quietly until something in the conversation catches my attention, then I'll burst in and take over. Sx/so's don't do this, they tend to hold court on a more consistent basis, and be more polite and socially-oriented in their interaction as well. In general, sx/sp's are more in their heads, thinking....and will sit just thinking about the conversation, then suddenly feel a big burst of sharing come on, and burst in, sometimes at the wrong point, because they're not as attuned to the social dynamic. This is something I don't like about myself, one of my biggest faults that's been brought up by numerous people through the years. It's like I can't always get a feel for where to interject my thoughts in a group conversation, so I wind up blurting, and talking over people from all directions, even when I'm trying to gauge it. Sx/so's are very socially attuned and much smoother, regardless of e-type, than sx/sp's, who are just freakin jerky, no matter how they try. Unlike the sx/so's smooth outward flow (sometimes likened to a generator), sx/sp energy moves in/out/in/out in unpredictable bursts (sometimes likened to lightening). That's one reason sx/sp's[blocked due to guideline #4 violation]people off more.

However, I don't really see this dynamic in sp/sx's. Self pres/sexual's are less forceful in their interjections, and usually more contemplative. They think more thoroughly about what they want to say and how they want to say it before speaking than sx/sp's who, like I said, are very blurtatious. And alot of times, sp/sx's will have all kinds of interesting thoughts on things that they don't even express until someone draws it out of them. This isn't always so, they sometimes express alot, but they're (SP’s) not as aggressive about expressing their thoughts, for the most part. I've noticed that they (SP’s) can be happy just thinking to themselves without sharing, whereas I feel absolutely compelled to share, for better or worse. Sp/sx's are much more measured. 
 
When sx/sp's are in withdrawal mode, they're basically tuned out. This is why they can appear more like a self pres type, but if you look closely, sp/sx's tend to be more tuned in and focused and present than a withdrawing sx/sp, who is trying to shut off the stimulation. If you look at them closely at such times, they'll appear to be elsewhere mentally. If you try talking to them, they'll display a reluctance to be drawn in. However, if something really catches their interest, they'll change dramatically and become like a regular sx/sp, all bursty and jerky and excited. Self pres/sexuals get excited too, when talking about ideas that interest them, very much so, but they don't do the jerky thing. It's more consistent, though not in the socially-conscious way of the sx/so. A sp/sx will obviously be drawing things out of their mind and probing for the proper words to express it, where a sx/sp will be more like *total focus inward. total focus outward in a burst. total focus inward....* Does that make sense?

sx/sp 4w3 is less pretentious than the sp/sx 4w3, less outlandish than the sx/so 4w3, less Sevenish than the so/sx 4w3, less intellectual than the soc/sp 4w3, and less Onelike than the sp/so 4w3. I think we have some sx/sp 4w3's around here somewhere. White Raven comes to mind, and I'm sure there have been a few others drifting through over the years. Salieri was most likely a sx/sp 4w3.

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SX/SO’s:

 
This subtype is able to connect with others and with life itself, but always with an undertone of volatility and a tendency to dramatize. They are the most involved and connected of the subtypes of Four. They can go from relationship to relationship, seemingly tortured by each one. They are the most driven of the subtypes of Four to express themselves publicly and type Four celebrities are commonly found with this stacking. This subtype has a real difficulty remaining grounded, partly due to the undeveloped self-pres instinct. Although they can appear almost Eight-like at times with their lust for life and desire for passionate experience, they lack the focus of the Eight and the instinctual energy that would keep them grounded. Sometimes alcohol or substance abuse can be a problem. These Fours become more healthy when they learn to control their impulsivenss and focus their energies.

*Most rare 4 subtype!

sx/so - giant energy flowing outward in a smooth, sparkily engaging manner, warm like so/sx, but with a more noticeably sexual energy in their communication

sx/soc: This is the type that exudes the most raw charisma and sexual energy. They may identify so strongly with whatever they're involved with that they often become the symbol of its core essence, and sometimes its lead agent for change. Hardly content with the status quo, this subvariant seeks to alter the fundamental structure of something while at once embodying its purest or most extreme form. Possibly attracted to radical views on politics, philosophy, spirituality or creativity that reflect their penchant for testing boundaries. They enjoy pushing others' buttons, especially those resistant to their modes of expression. It's not uncommon for them to have a pet social, political or spiritual cause which they're able to support with heartfelt conviction. May exploit and seek to redefine sexuality to reflect their own colorful and uncertain understanding of it. While prone to exhibitionism, they are strongly attracted to grounding influences which can anchor them and provide stability. Failure to satisfy an especially intense desire for connection may cause this subvariant to spite others at the risk of jeopardizing the need for an equal, stabilizing force. Can feel pulled between wanting a life of maximum intensity and reassuring episodes of peaceful convention.  
 
Motivation: to impact others, question assumptions, challenge convention.  
 
Familiar Roles: provocateur, activist, exhibitionist .

sx/soc fours might be the most outwardly expressive and openly defiant of the styles. sx/sp fours have a sculpted, hard expression in a way. Both are intensely tortured types.

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SO General Info:

Most social 4's I know always define themselves outside of the status quo...in that they want the respect of the outcasts or oddballs of society because this would affirm their self image of being cast out, or rejected. Hence the tendency toward identifying with subcultures (mod, beatnik, emo, punk, goth, scene, etc...) I think sx 4's are most likely to want the respect of the highly respected and elite of whatever they find to be their niche. Social 4's often reject trends and sometimes luxury or anything associated with the bourgeoisie, something the literature doesn't tend to point out.

Social Four is the Critical Commentator:

"Overcoming feelings of shame, finding honor in

guarding the integrity

and the authenticity of the group."

social instinct (SO) adapt themselves to serve the needs of social situation. SO aware of their action and attitudes affect those around them. SO is the most concerned with doing things that will have some impact on their community or ever broader domains. 
 
Sexual Instinct constantly aware of the "chemistry" between themselves and others. Need to have deep intimacy in their primary relationship. Look for stimulating objects in their world. 
 
by my conservation, 
when I contact with someone, if the one is very stimulating and excite me a lot, he is sexual instinct. If someone is finding his role in society and thinking what he can do for the society, he is social instinct.

Social Fours are interesting in that any external validation can actually reinforce their feelings of defect, as any form of approval is automatically suspect since a social Four does not truly find themselves acceptable (they haven't found themselves to begin with). A compensatory image just complicates matters, since the true self is further masked to the outside world. The result is isolated withdrawal with a sense of never belonging, possibly involving the dysmorphia of the dreaded monster complex (Phantom of the Opera, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Michael Jackson, Beauty and the BEAST, etc). –Jase.

SO Variants:

SO/SX’s: 
 
This is overall the "lightest" type Four when it comes to social interaction. They are likely to utilize charm and humor. This type is more scattered and can be down right disorganized. They can drift through life always feeling like an outsider, yet they usually have friends. They can alternate from being the life of the party to withdrawing. Intimates will know of their insecurities and dark moody side while acquaintances will see a softer, friendlier side. This subtype’s energy is geared towards people, but they never feel as though they really fit in. They are often quite creative, talented people who have many interests, but they frequently lack the energy to actually accomplish what they would like. They can drift and withdraw very easily. When healthy and with the right support from friends (and perhaps a little push) they tap into their instinctual energy. When they do this, they begin to see how much they can accomplish. A positive connection to others helps them stay focused.

so/sx - warm, outward all-encompassing focus soaks gently inward

In the soc/sx I'd watch for a plafyul quality, lots of joking around, talkative and youthful, sometimes immature and flakey.

soc/sx - Focuses on the interpersonal dynamics within others, with an enormous need to find their place within the heirarchy.

soc/sx often has a "please like me" kind of attitude, as in "I want you to know who I am and like me for it." They're more friendly than the soc/sx, more fun than edgy, and more willing to compromise their identify for cohesiveness. They pull together extremes and find a median point.

Mike, Howard Stern being soc/sx is a pretty easy call, I think. He's fixated on bodily functions and body parts as a source of cheap thrills and jokes, that's not really the style of a sexual variant. Ever notice how self pres types tend to look upon bathroom humor as unfunny and immature? Likewise sx/soc types tend to take the subject of sex pretty seriously. Even Robin Williams during his 70's standup routine would get serious and emotional when discussing sex. soc/sx however are by and large the most immature and puerile of the stackings, with less of a heavy attitude towards things. In fact every soc/sx type I've known likes to laugh at sexuality, bathroom jokes, racial humor, etc.

For instance, a soc/sx will be interested in making friends, so they will court individuals of interest using a mirroring sensitivity which reflects a combination of the social and sexual instincts, but is primarily social in nature because completely merging with one person or concept is usually not their main priority. They want a collection of close friends, and tend to measure their self importance by the diversity and quality of their friends, and also by how much they're appreciated by those they like.

soc/sx often has a "please like me" kind of attitude, as in "I want you to know who I am and like me for it." They're more friendly than the sx/so, more fun than edgy, and more willing to compromise their identify for cohesiveness. They pull together extremes and find a median point.

In the soc/sx I'd watch for a plafyul quality, lots of joking around, talkative and youthful, sometimes immature and flakey. In talking with a true soc/sx type you usually get a pretty mixed review of humanity, since they can have a pretty nasty antisocial/misanthropic side, though universally applied and not ideologically delineated as in the soc/sp (as in, "sure I'm a racist. I hate all races equally.") More of a realist, less idealistic, but fairly optimistic. The soc/sx tends to have a pretty cool disposition, occasionally interrupted by volatile emotive eruptions, mini tantrums, bits of satire, or the acting out of sudden flights of fancy. Garfield, Snoopy, Calvin, and Bugs Bunny are good examples of this style.

I think soc/sx people might be fickle, or at least give off that impression. I think it's more like a type that gets easily bored. For instance, a soc/sx might bounce from one interest or person to another, until finding one interesting enough to engage the sexual aspect. I'd say they're more like vampires than [blocked due to guideline #4 violation]s. Once the victim is bled dry, they move on to the next interest. This can make them appear either deep or shallow, fickle or dedicated, depending on the phase of engagement. Not that this has anything to do with their ability to remain faithful, but I do think it makes them hesitant to actually commit.

For instance, a soc/sx will be interested in making friends, so they will court individuals of interest using a mirroring sensitivity which reflects a combination of the social and sexual instincts, but is primarily social in nature because completely merging with one person or concept is usually not their main priority. They want a collection of close friends, and tend to measure their self importance by the diversity and quality of their friends, and also by how much they're appreciated by those they like.

 
soc/sx - This type has very strong one to one social skills, but is usually uncomfortable in group settings. They enjoy cultivating multiple relationships, and can be intensely involved when in the presence of someone they are interested in, but have difficulty sustaining these bonds when apart. This may give the impression of being flighty and rootless, willing to adapt and mirror others in order to connect, but lacking a defined approach that would give their relationships a more solid standing. They may have political interests, but are generally more pragmatic and less partisan than the other social variant. They are often attuned to pop culture and the latest trends.

This type's motivation is to create lasting connections with those they are interested in - the "best friend."

Examples of soc/sx: Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton, Howard Stern, Margaret Cho, Jack McFarland from "Will & Grace"

SO/SP’s:

Social/Self-pres 
 
This subtype can mimic type One when it comes to social values. They can be harsh critics of the current mores. They have romantic ideals of what the world should be like; reality always falls short. Ironically, this type can be the most withdrawn of the Fours. Social anxiety combines with the Four's shame issues to make this type feel that the pressure associated with "fitting in" is just not worth it. They are also the most likely of the Fours to intellectualize their emotions and in this way resemble type Five.  
 
The social instinct tends to give the personality a focus on being included, fitting in, or finding a way to make a valued contribution. This agenda conflicts with the Four's sense of being "different from" or "other than." The Four's need to establish a separate identity conflicts with the social instinct's drive towards inclusion. The social Four often deals with this dilemma by defining themselves as being outside the social system. By defining themselves always in terms of the system, even if it is to establish distance, this Four stays essentially tied to it. Fours with the social/self-pres stacking tend to acutely feel a sense of social shame at not quite belonging. 
 
When this subtype is reasonably healthy, they are often gifted critics of the prevailing culture. They develop true insight into social dynamics and have an eye for the nuances and subtleties of social interactions. Many Four writers are soc/self.

so/sp - warm outward focus retreats quickly inward when threatened

The social 4w3 tend to be the quiet ones that hang out in the "alternative" cliques with 3w4s or 7s. They need to be part of a group and express themselves through some kind of interest, whether its raving or theatre plays or whatever. They lack confidence outside their area of expression, though. The SP 4w3 never seems to lack confidence around others and it only comes out in private or with close friends. Otherwise the need to feel "elite" and above the commoners is important, although they do want others to pay attention to them and what they do. 

soc/sp - This type is often the most comfortable in group settings, but tends to be a bit formal and awkward in one to one relations. This is the natural political type, affiliating themselves with groups or theories which best defend their social and material interests. They may lack warmth and individual identity and this could lead to problems in forming meaningful relationships outside of a shared social interest. The motivation for this type is to attain status within their chosen sphere - the "social climber."

A soc/sp wants to make advantageous connections that solidify their social standing and provide them a secure platform for achieving within their area of interest. This reflects the self pres combining into the social instinct, but again is primarily social in nature. Because the social instinct is modified by the self pres, they tend to project their own security concerns onto their social awareness, thinking that what's good for them is good for others. That's why they're usually politically active in some capacity. They're very much interested in acquiring contacts, but intimacy and closeness are of less concern. They tend to measure their importance by the social standing and influence of their friends, and by their inclusion into various interest groups. 

The motivation for this type is to attain status within their chosen sphere - the "social climber." 
 
Examples of soc/sp: Hillary Clinton, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ted Nugent

A soc/sp wants to make advantageous connections that solidify their social standing and provide them a secure platform for achieving within their area of interest. This reflects the self pres combining into the social instinct, but again is primarily social in nature. Because the social instinct is modified by the self pres, they tend to project their own security concerns onto their social awareness, thinking that what's good for them is good for others. That's why they're usually politically active in some capacity. They're very much interested in acquiring contacts, but intimacy and closeness are of less concern. They tend to measure their importance by the social standing and influence of their friends, and by their inclusion into various interest groups.

Self-Pres Continued:

SP General Info:

None lol

SP Variants:

The SP variant tends to just look for someone similar to themselves, and they are usually pretty satisfied when they find that person, although this can take a while.

The SP is said to be the most faithful 4 variant.

The SP, “on the other hand, tends to be somewhat nervous or flighty around those who have the potential to make them emotionally interested and less "SP."

Self-Pres Four the Creative

Individualist: "Pursuing one's authentic life

with a spirit of dauntlessness, sometimes verging

on recklessness."

Leda described self-preservation Fours as "blunt," and cz described them as "caustic.”

SP/SO’s:

 
This subtype is the least volatile and fiery of the type Four stackings. They can resemble type One in terms of their efficiency and practicality. Although their focus will be more on the emotional aesthetic, these Fours do have a considerable practical side. Less flashy than some of the subtypes of Four, they nevertheless have a quiet charm and developed sense of style. They are likely to value their possessions, to perhaps collect items of personal emotional significance. They may, for instance, have shelves and shelves of books and have a place for each book. This subtype can also resemble type Six in terms of having a great deal of anxiety. This anxiety often revolves around self-pres concerns such as those surrounding health issues and mortality. Their strong self-pres instinct also lends a degree of independence to this subtype. As the sexual instinct is least pronounced, this subtype of Four is prone to romanticize intimacy without actually pursuing real relationships. When healthy, these Fours can be very productive; when less healthy they might suffer from boughts of melancholy or self pity. The strong self-pres instinct however often helps these individuals to recognize how their state of mind is impacting their health and well being. This enables them to become action oriented.

sp/so - firmly centered inwardly, expressing outwards, toward others, can give a feel almost like they're being gracious in expressing themselves to the crowd.

The SP/SO usually feels most comfortable around those who they discover they can have consistently good conversation with.

sp/soc: This type is generally private and reserved, and especially serious and practical-minded in their focus to gain material security and in making useful connections that support their goals. When they do form a connection, loyalty is very important to them and they will not hesitate to end a relationship on grounds of disloyalty. This type may lack a certain degree of interpersonal warmth which can give the impression of coldness or disinterest in others, even a sense of selfishness. May be drawn to groups that attract like minded individuals, as in business clubs or volunteer organizations where a shared professional culture can facilitate social bonds. They tend to live conservatively and dress in an inconspicuously appropriate fashion befitting their status in life. May have a characteristically blunt and direct style of communication that can take others some getting used to. They are particularly strong in matters of commitment and sacrifice, and enjoy being the benefactors in assisting society's practical needs. 
 
Motivation: to attain a position of material and societal security. 
 
Familiar Roles: the businessperson, the responsible citizen, the pillar of society. 

SP Types: Prince Charles, Paul Simon, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Martha Stewart, Harrison Ford.

The SP/SO is likely to have a large "variation" between liking and disliking. Some people will hate the inconsistency and "bluntness" and others will get past that and enjoy the SP/SO's always unique "social additions." The SP/SX is more likely to be an "acquired taste" to everybody around them that will only really be truly appreciated by the certain few people they connect with.

I think it's important to add a distinction between SP/SX and SP/SO for identification purposes. You talk about "life commitment," but the SP/SX is more likely to want to talk to people in general in one-on-one settings, and can exhibit discomfort in large groups of people. The SP/SO, on the other hand, is that person who is normally quiet and to themselves, but can be around a group of people and suddenly be interesting and fun for a little bit of time. This gives the first variant a quality of intensity, while the latter variant tends to have a strange, "inconsistent" quality that makes them kind of unpredictable and hard to figure out.

SP/SX’s: 

Self/Sexual 
 
This subtype also cares very much about their surroundings and their possessions. They feel as if these things help to express who they are. There is more of a passionate sense about them as compared to the self/soc. They have more of a sensual relationship with their environment. These Fours are much more tortured by their difficulty with respect to maintaining close relationships. The self-preservational instinct tends to be in conflict with the sexual instinct, causing this subtype to habitually analyze their relationships to the point where they find it difficult to be present to them. When unhealthy, these Fours can become very disdainful of the social environment. They also start to envy the ease with which others seem to form relationships and maintain friendships. When Fours of this subtype are healthy, they find that they can form relationships without feeling as though they are sacrificing authenticity. They no longer feel that they have to automatically define themselves as "different from others," as outside the group. They are able to see the ways in which their emotionality might cloud their better judgment and to use that insight to establish equilibrium.

sp/sx: These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are quietly intense, but to others may seem oblivious to the greater social world around them, instead favoring personal interests. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other's condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant's surface formality. Somewhat hesitant to enter new relationships, they instead preserve the select few enduring bonds they carefully form along the way. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking.

sp/sx - push the inward energy outward to communicate, but remain inwardly focused, always more focused in their own heads than on the other, analyzing the comments being made.

The SP/SX is less likely to connect with people to begin with, but once they do they are also less likely to care if their needs are really being completely met by that other person. After all, they are SP first and probably want to spend a significant portion of their time alone anyways. I also think that SP/SX is less likely to want to make decisions that significantly change their lives, seeming very "conservative" by their actions sometimes. This may be more of a negative than the SX/SP as I believe action is ultimately a good thing.

The SP/SX really wants to connect, but it's something that takes time.

However, I don't really see this dynamic in sp/sx's. Self pres/sexual's are less forceful in their interjections, and usually more contemplative. They think more thoroughly about what they want to say and how they want to say it before speaking than sx/sp's who, like I said, are very blurtatious. And alot of times, sp/sx's will have all kinds of interesting thoughts on things that they don't even express until someone draws it out of them. This isn't always so, they sometimes express alot, but they're not as aggressive about expressing their thoughts, for the most part. I've noticed that they can be happy just thinking to themselves without sharing, whereas I feel absolutely compelled to share, for better or worse. Sp/sx's are much more measured. 
 
When sx/sp's are in withdrawal mode, they're basically tuned out. This is why they can appear more like a self pres type, but if you look closely, sp/sx's tend to be more tuned in and focused and present than a withdrawing sx/sp, who is trying to shut off the stimulation. If you look at them closely at such times, they'll appear to be elsewhere mentally. If you try talking to them, they'll display a reluctance to be drawn in. However, if something really catches their interest, they'll change dramatically and become like a regular sx/sp, all bursty and jerky and excited. Self pres/sexuals get excited too, when talking about ideas that interest them, very much so, but they don't do the jerky thing. It's more consistent, though not in the socially-conscious way of the sx/so. A sp/sx will obviously be drawing things out of their mind and probing for the proper words to express it, where a sx/sp will be more like *total focus inward. total focus outward in a burst. total focus inward....* Does that make sense?

 
SP/SX are less likely to want to pursue new experiences in a relationship. They want the constancy of the relationship more than anything. The SX/SP wants the new feelings that new experiences in the relationship provide.  
 
The SP/SX is more likely to just withdraw and gradually cut off a relationship if it is not what they wanted. The SX/SP has a harder time dispelling feelings and will usually only end relationships if their needs are truly not being met, or if they meet another person who would do such a better job at fulfilling their needs that a bond develops between the two of them naturally.

SPs are just less conscious of "needs" and connections in general. Many times we are not conscious of when relationship dynamics change. Ideally, the SX/SP, as I said, is emotionally connected to their partner and will do almost anything for him/her. The less ideal SX/SP is fickle. Just like the less ideal SP/SX is very antisocial and not truly responsive to their partner's needs even if that SP/SX thinks he/she is being supportive just by "being there" for him or her. There are negative aspects to all of the variants. I was only trying to illustrate this.

The SP/SX is less likely to connect with people to begin with, but once they do they are also less likely to care if their needs are really being completely met by that other person. After all, they are SP first and probably want to spend a significant portion of their time alone anyways. I also think that SP/SX is less likely to want to make decisions that significantly change their lives, seeming very "conservative" by their actions sometimes. This may be more of a negative than the SX/SP as I believe action is ultimately a good thing.

Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.

 
Familiar Roles: the mate, the mystic, the quiet supporter. 
 
Examples: George Harrison, Jackie Onassis, Eric Clapton, Emily Dickinson 
 
Both variants are excellent long-term relationship material, although the SP/SX can be a little selfish even while being extremely supportive. If they have to sacrifice too much of themselves for even someone as important to them as their mates, they get pretty stubborn. On the other hand, the SX/SP can often be very moody as they are constantly aware of the current state of their relationships and how they could be improved and how intimate bonds could be strengthened. They expect non-SX variants to have these same insights.

       
In the sp/sx, the sp controls the interface to what lies beyond the self as it resides in the foremost position, though as noted above, the individual's type will customize the orders of the instinct. The inward dynamic for the sp/sx is the sx soaking into the sp, making for a richer, more intense, more emotional affiliation towards the outer life of neccesities and comforts. The sp/sx is recognized by their meticulous devotion to the quality and function of their surroundings (Han Solo's "special modifications" to the Falcon, for example), as they attach themselves to whatever they feel will support their quality of existence. Sensualists, gourmands, audiophiles, antique collectors, fine art appraisers, aromatherapy, all typify the flavor of the sp/sx. The epicure to the sp/soc stoic.

 
I wonder about eye contact too. SP variants I have known, including myself, are not very good at it at all. The SP/SX tends to only be able to look into the eyes of others they trust and are close to. The SP/SO might only do the "initial glance" and then be off in their own world while they are expressing themselves. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this in their relations with others.

Overview of all variant (“Instinctual Stackings”combinations:

sx/sp - total inward gives way to total outward in jerky bursts, usually directed at one person in particular, can't focus on the overall group, but may move rapidly from one total focus to the next

so/sx - warm, outward all-encompassing focus soaks gently inward 
sx/so - giant energy flowing outward in a smooth, sparkily engaging manner, warm like so/sx, but with a more noticeably sexual energy in their communication  
sp/sx - push the inward energy outward to communicate, but remain inwardly focused, always more focused in their own heads than on the other, analyzing the comments being made  
so/sp - warm outward focus retreats quickly inward when threatened 
sp/so - firmly centered inwardly, expressing outwards, toward others, can give a feel almost like they're being gracious in expressing themselves to the crowd

 
Self-pres/Social 
 
This subtype is the least volatile and fiery of the type Four stackings. They can resemble type One in terms of their efficiency and practicality. Although their focus will be more on the emotional aesthetic, these Fours do have a considerable practical side. Less flashy than some of the subtypes of Four, they nevertheless have a quiet charm and developed sense of style. They are likely to value their possessions, to perhaps collect items of personal emotional significance. They may, for instance, have shelves and shelves of books and have a place for each book. This subtype can also resemble type Six in terms of having a great deal of anxiety. This anxiety often revolves around self-pres concerns such as those surrounding health issues and mortality. Their strong self-pres instinct also lends a degree of independence to this subtype. As the sexual instinct is least pronounced, this subtype of Four is prone to romanticize intimacy without actually pursuing real relationships. When healthy, these Fours can be very productive; when less healthy they might suffer from boughts of melancholy or self pity. The strong self-pres instinct however often helps these individuals to recognize how their state of mind is impacting their health and well being. This enables them to become action oriented.  
 
Self/Sexual 
 
This subtype also cares very much about their surroundings and their possessions. They feel as if these things help to express who they are. There is more of a passionate sense about them as compared to the self/soc. They have more of a sensual relationship with their environment. These Fours are much more tortured by their difficulty with respect to maintaining close relationships. The self-preservational instinct tends to be in conflict with the sexual instinct, causing this subtype to habitually analyze their relationships to the point where they find it difficult to be present to them. When unhealthy, these Fours can become very disdainful of the social environment. They also start to envy the ease with which others seem to form relationships and maintain friendships. When Fours of this subtype are healthy, they find that they can form relationships without feeling as though they are sacrificing authenticity. They no longer feel that they have to automatically define themselves as "different from others," as outside the group. They are able to see the ways in which their emotionality might cloud their better judgment and to use that insight to establish equilibrium. 
 
Social/Self-pres 
 
This subtype can mimic type One when it comes to social values. They can be harsh critics of the current mores. They have romantic ideals of what the world should be like; reality always falls short. Ironically, this type can be the most withdrawn of the Fours. Social anxiety combines with the Four's shame issues to make this type feel that the pressure associated with "fitting in" is just not worth it. They are also the most likely of the Fours to intellectualize their emotions and in this way resemble type Five.  
 
The social instinct tends to give the personality a focus on being included, fitting in, or finding a way to make a valued contribution. This agenda conflicts with the Four's sense of being "different from" or "other than." The Four's need to establish a separate identity conflicts with the social instinct's drive towards inclusion. The social Four often deals with this dilemma by defining themselves as being outside the social system. By defining themselves always in terms of the system, even if it is to establish distance, this Four stays essentially tied to it. Fours with the social/self-pres stacking tend to acutely feel a sense of social shame at not quite belonging. 
 
When this subtype is reasonably healthy, they are often gifted critics of the prevailing culture. They develop true insight into social dynamics and have an eye for the nuances and subtleties of social interactions. Many Four writers are soc/self.  
 
Social/Sexual 
 
This is overall the "lightest" type Four when it comes to social interaction. They are likely to utilize charm and humor. This type is more scattered and can be down right disorganized. They can drift through life always feeling like an outsider, yet they usually have friends. They can alternate from being the life of the party to withdrawing. Intimates will know of their insecurities and dark moody side while acquaintances will see a softer, friendlier side. This subtype’s energy is geared towards people, but they never feel as though they really fit in. They are often quite creative, talented people who have many interests, but they frequently lack the energy to actually accomplish what they would like. They can drift and withdraw very easily. When healthy and with the right support from friends (and perhaps a little push) they tap into their instinctual energy. When they do this, they begin to see how much they can accomplish. A positive connection to others helps them stay focused. 
 
Sexual/Self-pres 
 
This is a very volatile type. They are driven to form connections but have very high demands of their partners. When their powerful fantasies don’t match reality, they become very restless. They take the fire and passion of the sexual instinct and turn it inward. This can cause both brooding and fiery outbursts. Dramatic mood swings are very likely with this type. This subtype of Four could be considered the most classic Four, because of the way they seem to embody the archetype of the tortured artist, although not all Fours of this subtype are artists. Stereotype aside, this subtype does tend to bring their emotions into focus more readily then the other subtypes of Four. What is under the surface with the self-pres/sexual is now bubbling to the surface. This subtype can resemble type Seven because of their drama, passion for experience and tendency to suffer from frustration when life seems dull. Like type Seven, they can seem to throw themselves into experience. 
 
When healthy, this subtype learns to balance the need for passion with the less obvious need for groundedness which can come from solid and focused relationships with others and with their creative outlets. 
 
Sexual/Social 
 
This subtype is able to connect with others and with life itself, but always with an undertone of volatility and a tendency to dramatize. They are the most involved and connected of the subtypes of Four. They can go from relationship to relationship, seemingly tortured by each one. They are the most driven of the subtypes of Four to express themselves publicly and type Four celebrities are commonly found with this stacking. This subtype has a real difficulty remaining grounded, partly due to the undeveloped self-pres instinct. Although they can appear almost Eight-like at times with their lust for life and desire for passionate experience, they lack the focus of the Eight and the instinctual energy that would keep them grounded. Sometimes alcohol or substance abuse can be a problem. These Fours become more healthy when they learn to control their impulsivenss and focus their energies.

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Hehe! Well I'm glad to be your Enneagram twin!

oh my god, you know what this means? I finally found my enneagram twin!! (and I've been actively searching...finding a 4w5 who was social first is a hard enough task as it is!) We've got to talk more! I'd love to find out how another 4w5 so/sx relates to the rest of the world. As a social first I always love looking for like minded individuals and connecting to them and so that's why I searched. I seem to know more 4w3s for some reason and they have quite a different feel. So lets talk more! About enneagram and life!

Yes! The 4 so/sx is even more accurate than the 4 description alone lol.

:) did that help? <br />
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Good grief...I'm rereading the so/sx stacking and surprised why I didn't identify it sooner.

Wow!!!!!

You're very welcome! Enjoy!

Thank you for posting this!!