The Dead Of Civilization Love Is The AnswerOne of my friends wrote on my whiteboard.
How are you my friend , sorry for not talking to you a lot , i had exams , how are your articles in the journal ? and want you to talk about how can a person rise a civilization again after it's death , i want to read your opinion about that.
My answer is:
My work is going very good now. Thank you.
Your question is a very difficult and complex one.
First I decided to let it go. I thought I won’t able to express myself fully and even if I will try to do so it would be difficult to understand, from where I am coming from. But I was already on. I kept thinking and thinking. It was pounding me all over and over again. I was eating - I was thinking. I was going sleep - I was thinking. I went shopping - I was thinking. I had to start to write, otherwise I wouldn’t be able to rest my mind. I wrote it down once. I erased it. It was too long and too philosophical. I started over. It was the same. No good. I was caught up in my thoughts and it was not clear. There was nothing there what I would think is artistic. It was too much and too complicated. I deleted all again.
But all the time I kept in mind that you are Egyptian and the people of Egypt with their struggle for a free and democratic society. These thoughts forced me to write. I decided to repeat myself as many times as possible in order to achieve clarity. I hope that it will help, in some way, to bring peace and stability to the region. It is still not good. I don’t like the way I wrote that but I like what is inside and I am glad that I was able to say that. Please keep reading to the end. It seems to be boring but I can’t help it.
Civilization - an advanced state of intellectual, cultural, and material development in human society, marked by progress in the arts and sciences, the extensive use of record-keeping, including writing, and the appearance of complex political and social institutions.
Is this civilization dead?
Which civilization is dead? Civilization as all or a particular one?
If I wouldn't know you, I would think that you are asking generally, about our civilization as human civilization.
Let’s focus on this way of understanding this first.
In order to give answers for that, we will have to establish what we mean by a dead civilization and next, ba
But I understand that you are using this term symbolically. My understanding of your symbolism would be as follow - You claim that all civilization is dead, because there are some disturbing issues and practices in our civilization, which are deeply touching you and make you think that way. To be certain about that we will have to establish a process of verification, if what you think is ba
It could be very difficult to verify if your suggestion is true or not. Because we have so many cultures and traditions on this planet. We can have some trend of thinking if we would do some statistic research We could find out for example, that most of the humans think that way. Think that our civilization is dead. Death means end. But I am sure even if we will have positive outcome, positive in that way that most of humans will think that it is dead for sure some of them will think it is not. And for these few it would be alive or something else but not dead. Only in Communism 100 % people thought that First Secretary of the party is the best one and should be chosen for the next term.
In my opinion, in order to know the truth we should know all the views and respect all of them and take care about them and this is very, very important. Anyway, even if most the people would think that our civilization is dead still we will live in it with all these problems inside.
However what is important to notice here is fact that if we will do all the way I suggested. I mean – check what really people think and respect all the views. It will mean that the basic of living society, which is democracy in my opinion, would be respected. And that I think is what makes every civilization alive.
No matter how different you are. No matter if you are women or man, or gay or lesbian, black or white or of any colour or doing even the most strange things (strange for us, who are not doing them) like those you can find here on EP. No matter what you do, if that doesn’t harm others you have the same rights like all people. Everybody should have rights to live on this planet and feel free if his freedom don’t cause harm to others. Like according the rule – “My freedom stop where yours start”.
Well, you can say that if somebody is doing poop to the cup and next eat that and you see that this cause harm to you. But you don’t have to watch that and nobody will force you to do that.
If we will respect democracy fully I am sure our civilization has all the rights to feel alive. Do we respect democracy fully? They are all different views on that. But so far all of it functions and is going ahead. As Winston Churchill said – “Democracy is not the best, but the best what we have.”
The most interesting thing for me, was to learn that some sources were suggesting that one of the greatest politician, thinker and strategist of 20 century Winston Churchill was suffering on mental illness. Maniac depression or bipolar disorder.
See, at one point of our history, mental diseases was considered as sign of evil or people who have them where seen that way. They were stigmatized and people thought that they were touched by Satan or they were possessed. By the way the same was with witches. Most of the time these people was taken out of society and put in closed facilities, where they were suffering terribly. Today this changed, but still situation is not perfect. However what I am trying to say, Churchill by his example as well as Abraham Lincoln (battling clinical depression all his life) proves that everybody on this planet deserves a chance and can show their greatness. And this is the right that the democracy gives in the best way. Everybody should be included into it, even the smallest minority, and taken care of. For example, Canada with many, many terrible mistakes in the past is trying to deliver that rule as best as it is possible.
If would wish to know, where I stand with my views. I can tell you.
My thinking it totally, totally free I will describe that with the use of two terms which to explain it are close by. It is not precise, but it is as close as I can think of the idea of being free. I will say that the way how I think is so free like it is almost anarchistic or communistic. I mean, whatever best you can get out of these two philosophies, it will represent the way how I think. Free as much as it can be. No rules and for all and equally for all. However my way of talking and presenting my views is very, very liberal. The way how I talk, it sounds like I accept all and I am open for everything. But my actions are extremely conservative with one exception, my personal intimate life where I am regular but very, very open. Other than that, I hate any changes in my life. I like all as it is and I don’t want changes - again I am talking only about my life.
Back to the topic. If democracy would be fully respected in our world … “fully” - meaning, rights of all would be respected and all were given chance to express themselves equally and all were given all the same opportunities and we will let all to live the way as they want to and this way will not harming other… I would say that this civilization is fully alive and in total bloom. Is it the case now? I can’t say definitely because I have no full research data on that. I will say as far I as know it is bad, but not that bad. I know as well that there are many, many examples all over the world that democracy is not respected. I know about huge power struggle between all the different worldly forces hungry for dominance. This fight knows no mercy and has not much to do with basic human rights or concern about regular people. But it was that way as long as we can look back into the history of our civilization and I guess it will always be. We see wars, killings and injustice on every day basis, at every moment, all over the world. Still, we wake up in the morning and go along with our life. What else can we do? I have no idea.
I am just a writer and a thinker. I am not in a position to do anything more. It is not my call. I don’t feel like a politician or leader or change maker. I will not call for any changes unless I could be sure that it will be for better. But how I can be sure about that?
I am just trying to live as best as I can. I am sharing my thoughts with others and I hope I make them think. Nothing more. I am not in power and I don’t feel like it and it is not my mission to do anything more than that. My mission is to share my thoughts and help as many as I can on my narrow path. It can be one person or two or maybe it may be nobody but I will try. That is it. And I believe that most of the people are the same way.
There is one shocking fact which I learn about civilization we live in. I was trying to write some articles, back in Poland during my work as journalist, about human trafficking. It happened, because I was deeply touched by the situation of women and kids who were smuggled to other countries for prostitution and other abuse. Studying this subject, I have learnt that the price of person life is $2000 on the mafia market. You can pay this amount and almost anybody can be liquidated. Gone, and nobody will know when and why. Just one day, somebody could vanish with no any signs and nobody will even notice that it was a paid killing.
Still, all those you see around you are safe and sound.
I would like to point that right now that the death of civilization can be perceived in many different ways by different groups or even different people. I was confronted with combination of the terms like dead and civilization first time from teachings of the beloved John Paul II. He used this terms in his works but he phrased it differently. He claims, that we are living in a culture of dead.
As it is written in one of the articles about him – “In place of a culture of death, John Paul II has called for a civilization of love, a culture of life. He called to the married couples to accept children willingly as the full ex
“Pope John Paul II taught insistently that our dignity is rooted in our ability to love, to give freely and generously from ourselves. Despite all the evil that he has seen—and that our world has seen—he believes it is still possible for us to experience this love, because God gave it to us first in Jesus Christ.”
As you know probably, John Paul II completely sacrificed his life to change the world for the better and yet we still have this situation. But I am sure that his approach and the building of the civilization of love is the right one. Anyway different peoples, different approaches. And again for leaders from different parts of our life, the danger for our civilization lays in different places. For John Paul II the right of protecting life from moment of conception till natural death was one of the most important. Protecting it was the ba
Now we are touching a very sensitive issue, the issue of abortion. Honestly, it is not the best topic for politicians. It is a very dividing problem. I think everybody should have the right to chose and to live with the consequences. I am sure it is the deepest wound for every mother and it never goes away. I think as well, that everybody has rights to protest it. But in my opinion, no woman should be stigmatized after she has done that. She already has enough to bear after such an act and should be treated with love, care and compassion. I will give some thoughts for the fathers of the unborn, because I never hear enough about that. For man too, most of the time it is a horrible decision to live with.
In many situations, an unwanted pregnancy is the result of a poor sex education. I will focus here on the youngest generation. Simplifying: boys always want to do it and when it happened they run away. Philosophy is generally always the same: if you love me you will do it for me. It takes a little time to do it and a whole life to pay for it. There is no way to stop young ones from doing it unless they will get the right education and example at home. One of my teachers, priest Szarkowski has taught me – “if you want to have a success in educating the youngest - school, home and society as well as the religious group have to speak in the same voice.” Right education is the best way to reduce the unwanted pregnancy issue.
On the other side, I found on EP some groups like: “I want another man to get me pregnant not my husband” or “I want to get pregnant by a gang bang“. You never know for sure, what the best is.
What we know by now?
Firstly: we don’t know what you mean by “dead civilization”.
Secondly: we don’t know, if you mean civilization as at all or a particular civilization.
Thirdly: using my logic we find out, that would be difficult to prove, that that this civilization, or any civilization at all is dead. Even if one or two people will think that is alive, it will be alive for them. We can’t generalize.
Fourthly: we claim, that if democracy is fully respected then any civilization has the best potential to feel alive. When you have the conditions to feel free and you feel free, you are able to advance the most in your development in many areas. The Democracy creates complex political and social institutions as well.
Fifthly: we understand, that we can think that civilization is dead because we have concerns, but not much can be done to change that. Even John Paul II, who did a lot to change the world for better, at the end of the day didn’t fix it all. Even Jesus or any other great One couldn’t do that. Always there will be something. As well, we can always claim, that because of something our civilization is dead and there are a lot of reasons to say that.
Sixthly: we understand, that for different people there will be different reasons to think that the civilization is dead. Each one can see different dangers and callings which should be taken care of in order to keep our civilization alive.
Seventhly: we learn a lot about my views what your primary ob
Finally, I will say that they are ways of fixing things when they are broken. Again, it is ba
In the beginning, we have to find out what is wrong and make us think that civilization is dead. Even if this will have nothing to do with definition of the civilization. For example, some will think that it is dead because of the immoral behaviour other because of the global powers controlling the world. There can also be a situation that some of the individuals will think, that civilization is alive and the others will be OK if is dead – it will not bother them.
However when we find what makes us think that way, we can look for solutions. We will have to find the ways, how to fix all the problems and for that job, we will have to employ the best and the brightest minds in every civilization. Well, we will have to establish an honest and independent process, how to choose the right people.
After that, when solutions will be found, we have to discuss them with all the members of the civilization and be the most inclusive in doing so.
After the discussions, we have to implement all the necessary corrections to the way of how we are going to correct things.
In the end, we have to put into life all the solutions and monitor how they will work in real time and be very flexible, when problems appear and again, correct things ba
Life of civilization is constant construction in process and if we want be successful all who wants should take a part in that.
We have to remember as well, that every civilization is built on individuals. If we can’t do much on the bigger stage to provide the change for the better for sure we can do it in our own world. We can improve ourselves. My advice is - learn to love yourself first. Learn - to love – yourself - first. If you can’t love yourself, you can’t love others. If you will love yourself, you will find out after while that you have to love others as well. Why? Because everything is happening in your mind, in your head.
You are surrounded by others and you have to live around them. You and others exist solely in your head where you perceive everything. If you will hate others those, who are appearing in your head it is almost like you will hate yourself. The hatred is in your head and I believe it will destroy you sooner or later.
Hating yourself and loving others. I believe it is not possible. What kind of love you can give to them if there is only hatred within you. One part of you will love and the other part will hate? You will have to have two thoughts at the same time and we know from psychology you can have only one thought at a time.
Then, loving yourself first and loving others is next because this is still you. They appear in your head. If you love them, you love yourself as well.
Hating yourself and hating others is very possible. I believe it is a way of living hell on earth. The choice is yours. Simple - the mission is to learn to love yourself and learning to love others which is still learning to love yourself.
I understand perfectly, that my views are in most parts are very utopian. Why? Because I would like to make everybody happy which is impossible. Nobody did so far and always there will be somebody left behind. But we should try to our best knowledge to create a system which will include all.
Karl Marx I think he was a great philosopher and his teachings came to life because of his concerns for others. Problems began from the moment, when they started to be implemented in the real life and nobody really bothered about how they worked. They really didn’t work and the later attempt to fix the problems didn’t do much good. I hope these horrible mistakes won't happen again.
In the end, I would like to focus on Egypt. I had a chance to talk to some people from your country. I have some, but very little understanding of situation there. I think that the most important is to avoid any further killings and violence. My opinion is simple. If we are building a future society for all the Egyptians, first and the most important is to make sure that everybody will get there safely. You can’t build a future society for all and keep killing these for whom you are building it for. Then first rule and first step of building a society for all, is avoiding any violence. This will insure that this is really a process you look for, not just words. The society for all and the democracy will start from the moment when all the killing will stop.
There is a great example to investigate of how a change can be performed, with minimum cost of life lost, during the transition from one system to another. Check the Solidarity movement in Poland in 1980. The Wisdom of Polish Pope John Paul II, Polish church and Polish workers, brought a powerful communism system to its end in the whole old Europe, with almost no bloodshed.
I am not sure if this is that what you were asking me about. However this is my answer. I think high pathetical conversation about what to do when civilization would die has not much value. I am focusing on now. No matter what will happen I still think my rules are good once.
Thank you for asking and good luck.
Bolek 41-45, M 19 Responses 25 Nov 15, 2012