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Can Animal Lovers Be Sociopaths?

When I was younger, I guess around 12 or 13, I found my niche. I discovered from a very young age that I can read people expertly. Over the phone, I can pick up on voice changes and successfully link them to the correct emotion. In person, I can read body language and observe subtle and obvious changes in posture, speech, and behavior. As you may have guessed, I am still in the process of honing my powers, but in their development (as more of a series of experiments, actually), I have found that I can, in fact, ruin people's lives.

As with most sociopathic women, I discovered sex as a tool in manipulation. At an earlier age, not even sex, the idea of sex was usually enough to get people on their knees. I also went through a "tomboy" phase, during which I didn't shower, brush my hair, or even dress like a girl. During this stage of my life I discovered I was still able to get guys my age and older to hopelessly chase after me.. guys I considered attractive. At first I wondered why. Then, I realized I was charming, I didn't get attached to anyone, and I was, in the words of a high school English teacher "too smart for my own good".

Early on, I dissociated from people my own age, buried my nose in books, and did math for fun. I have always felt out of place, and I tend to see the world as one big experiment, in which I am both an unwilling subject and a master of puppets. It is through this perspective that I came to understand that nothing is set in stone. Emotions, words, ideas, and self-image are but malleable tools, that untouched, would still undergo constant change. I’ve observed, after a lifetime of being subjected to human interaction, that there is always a way to get people to think and feel exactly what you want them to.

I always get hired after the first interview, and I've had several jobs in which my bosses have never even seen my resume. As a bartender, I make about $250 a night. As a speaker/host, I get paid handsomely. People like me.

I have few friends I actually care about; two, if I’m going to e exact, and three, if I count my sister. These three are the only constants. Every other relationship is disposable. Mostly I get tired of people and just forget they even existed. Sometimes, I just forge a friendship till I can get what I want from someone, and then I forget we ever even met.

I am unpredictable, and my treatment of others is directly proportional to my mood. I can laugh and tell my boyfriend coldly our relationship is a waste of time, or I can affectionately pretend to cater to his weepy complaints that I am actively taking steps to move to another continent.

In my little experiments (which range from implanting insecurities to convincing people that they are alone in the universe), I have ruined quite a few lives. Some of the results are, at the very least, products of an experiment I had no idea was going to be successful.

My list of achievements includes, but is not limited, to the following. Most of the guys I date become immediately addicted to different drugs after we break up. I accidentally turned a friend of mine into a chain smoker, by pretending to think smoking was sexy. I got this guy to change EVERYTHING about himself and his image as part of his efforts to convince me to go out with him; I just wanted to see if he would, and when he did, I was disgusted by his spinelessness and started dating his best friend. I've obsessed people almost to the point of suicide, and I even had an ex-boyfriend tell me he would kill anyone if I ever asked him to (I'm a sociopath not psychopath). One time, this friend I had betrayed me, lied to me, and was too much of a coward to face me afterwards. So I pretended to forgive him, convinced him he was gay (it took me about 6 months) and subsequently convinced him to have sex with his ex-girlfriend's best guy friend (I hated her). His ex was devastated, and my friend was isolated from all of his homophobic friends, who became so when I made them believe my friend was stalking them. I dropped all communication with him after I comforted him and listened to him cry for about two weeks. I wasn't trying to be nice, I just really wanted to make sure he got a taste of sympathy before I took it away from him.

It’s really hard to believe a word that comes out of anyone’s mouth. Most people are liars and terrible at it, anyway. I do things like that, more than for amusement, to see really if it’s possible. Will anyone really fall for this? Dunno, let’s find out. How far can I push him/her? Dunno, let's find out. I do think it’s fun, though. I love upsetting and humiliating people, it's quite exciting, specially if I perceive they deserve it. In fact, most of the people I psychologically torture have to irk me in some way to fall under my radar, unless I want something from them, in which case their only offense is that they’re standing between me and my goals.

Could I be called a sociopath? I don’t know. I don’t really feel remorse for the majority of things I’ve done, nor do I even bother to apologize earnestly for them. When I apologize I do so convincingly, lest there be something to gain from an honest-sounding apology (to save face, for example). Nevertheless, there IS a gray area, or a blind spot, if you will.

I am an empathic person, but I hate people. I hate everything about people. We are evil, soulless, stupid as all hell, callous, and disgusting. I have empathy towards animals. I'm vegetarian, and I would kill someone with my bare hands if he or she were to so much as fracture my dog's paw. I also try to defend the innocent, on most occasions, which is why I'm always a tad hesitant to accept the label of sociopath.

You see, I would give up my own life to protect my hedgehog, or even someone I don’t know. Hell, I’d give up my own life to protect a stray dog. Conversely, I don’t really have a problem emotionally scarring someone as part of some frivolous endeavour to see how smart they are and how well I can lie.
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I do believe we may have been separated at birth....I can relate to every sentence that you typed.

I am a sociopath, there is no shame in admitting it, (we are capable of shame), I was made, not born this way. And yes I love animals. I would never hurt an animal and not feel bad afterwards. That is the key, I am able to look at an animal and see that it is different. A dog is a dog, a child is only a child for so long and then it is just an other useless unit of mobile carbon.
There are many subsets of this disorder, but some of us are able to love, the issue is that when we do we do so irrationally and without regaurd for the focus of that love.
I once fell in love until I wasn't anymore. For a year or better I would have skinned this persons entire family alive if they wanted me too, then I woke up one day and thought, "You got boring, I am done." After that you could have slit this persons throat and made me bathe in the blood and I wouldn't have cared.
But I have never, ever lost interest in a pet, so I can still love it.
Before you tear me apart take to heart I am giving you an honest response where others with my personality disorder wouldn't.
After I post this I will more likely than not ever look back at this page to see responses, I say what I want to say and can't care less what you think of it.

This was very elucidating, thank you for sharing this :)

Also I should say that guys found you attractive during your tomboy phase because they found you "obtainable",and probably didn't think it would take much effort to have your company.Interestingly,you display some of the markers of an abuse victim..Hiding behind boyish clothes and poor hygiene..the disassociation from others,even your ability to read emotions and body language could be a manifestation of hyper-vigiliance.But then again,aren't we all just victims?..

Eventually you're going to come across someone who immediately sees right thru you.While everyone else sees a fun-loving,pretty girl,this person sees the bottom-feeder you are.Although you may become "friends" and they may keep you around for awhile because you can be fun,as soon as you become more trouble than you're worth they'll send you an eviction notice over Facebook,then hack your email and forward emails to your mom detailing your prostitution activities for drug money.But mom will still drive you to your job at the ***** club everyday.Because there's always a bigger shark out there. #messwiththebestdieliketherest

Whether you are a sociopath or not is quite irrelevant. If everything you say is true, it's obvious that you are in desperate need of psychiatric help. Regardless of whether you are a sociopath, you are, of course, psychologically maladjusted - probably because of how you were raised. For your sake the sakes of others, get help.

a sociopath will never admit their a sociopath because there is no reason or benefit in doing so. Especially on the internet. I seriously doubt sociopaths even communicate on the internet unless it's for scams because there is no point.

Is this true?
I have done my own research on sociopaths, and I must say I'm fascinated with them. Could you pls reply, It would be pretty awesome.

Try narcissism.. Lauren

You sound very familiar. I even name the techniques I create as a result of my experiments. Good to know there is someone else out there like me. I also would kill for my dog. My 2 constant friends I know all there flaws and what I can trust with them. One of them I can't trust remotely with any kind of secret but the friendship has existed for so long. Everyone I meet seems to fit the Dunning-Kruger Effect but I always attempt to assume they are smarter than me so that I maintain an upper hand in case they turn out to be smarter than myself. This has yet to be disproved. Message me if you'd like to talk.

Dexter defended the innocent. I seem to remember he had some issues with animal slaughtering in his early years but seemed to move on once he started collecting the blood of the guilty. Have you ever considered becoming a homicidal vigilante?

That you say you have such empathy for animals is proof enough, to me anyway, that you are not a sociopath--at least, not totally. ba<x>sed on my own life experiences, I speculate that the empathy you have for animals may have at one time been used for other humans, but something in your life may have changed that. Again though, this is just speculation--take it with a grain of salt. More importantly though, from what I understand, "true" sociopaths do NOT have affection for animals...or anything really. You, on the other hand, seem to care a great deal about them. It does certainly appear like you have some anti-social traits, but having "some" is not the same as having "all" or even "enough" to qualify as a sociopath. I would be curious to know though what you consider empathy to be, as your answer could definitely make a difference. Take care...

I actually found this whilst researching sociopaths for a book idea I had, I'm trying to make the main character the perfect high-functioning sociopath to mess with people perception of others. Although I will say that I find it interesting that some people can actually think in such a different way and yet succeed in normal society, one more thing I would like to ask is weather you have been diagnosed as a sociopath or do you claim to be one ba<x>sed simply on your own observations?

It's not your fault that you are are a Socio.They have studied the brains of your kind and found them to show unresponsive areas durring BRAIN SCANS that results in subhuman emotional performance.

Doctor Hare has studied your type for 25 years and it clearly shows that we will know them by there deeds.After 26 years of Psychology I can pick a Socio out of a room so fast that it's simply amazing.To others they are charming and intellectual or seductive.But to me they are parasidic subhumans.

I LAUGHED and FELT SORRY FOR YOU you when you said " I also try to defend the innocent, on most occasions, which is why I'm always a tad hesitant to accept the label of sociopath ".....LOL This is so Socio to say something like that.You silly little girl don't you realize that the innocent is then a your pathetic human that NOW dependent on you.You love power and superiority as your kind does so you would help free the innocent.LOL...This is NOT AN ACT OF LOVE it is an act of superiority and power.

Thank you for your honestly.I am sorry that your brain is defective and that you were born this way.There is no true joy from evil there is only true joy from love.In time we will be able to correct the inferior brain at birth through DNA modification.

Lol

"After 26 years of Psychology I can pick a Socio out of a room so fast that it's simply amazing."

Yeah, I'm calling mostly BS on you there. First off, anyone legitimately interested in studying psychology wouldn't jump to conclusions like that. Second, a single observation of anyone's behavior isn't necessarily indicative of their entire personality. You can try to predict their behavior, and you may be right some of the time, but never all of the time. And third, really high-functioning sociopaths are the very DEFINITION of undetectable at first sight. They can look and act COMPLETELY normal on a social, superficial level, so not even the most adept "socio spotter" could identify them at first sight. A low-functioning socio, I can understand, but I'd bet a thousand bucks that you couldn't identify the most intelligent sociopath out there just by picking them out of a room.

"I LAUGHED and FELT SORRY FOR YOU you when you said " I also try to defend the innocent, on most occasions, which is why I'm always a tad hesitant to accept the label of sociopath ".....LOL This is so Socio to say something like that."You silly little girl don't you realize that the innocent is then a your pathetic human that NOW dependent on you.You love power and superiority as your kind does so you would help free the innocent.LOL...This is NOT AN ACT OF LOVE it is an act of superiority and power."

You're assuming that someone saying that they want to defend the innocent auto-makes them a sociopath? That's retarded logic. Who are you to simply discount the empathy she claims to have and twist it into "oh you just want to feel superior hahaha loser"? How do you know that she sees the weak and innocent that way? Are you inside her mind? If anything, it seems like you're trying to manipulate her perception so that she can simply "accept" the sociopathy that you claim she has.

"In time we will be able to correct the inferior brain at birth through DNA modification."

This part, hopefully, will be true. But again, you make the huge presumption that the poster IS in fact a sociopath and somehow "inferior. To me, she sounds much more like a misanthrope who has been disaffected from society. She MAY have a mild form of antisocial personality disorder, but even that would not be the same as full-fledged sociopathy. Actually, I suspect what she has is closer to histrionic or borderline personality disorder, or some hybrid of sorts.

I'd love to agree with you ....but....then we would both be wrong.

Were did you study your Psychology at Macdonalds ? She's the poster child for SOCIOPATHY and if you can't see the markers in her behavior stop playing doctor.

I do see the markers for sociopathy as plain as day, but I don't think the answer is as obvious as you think it is. First off, have you considered the possibility that boxing her into that label may just make her even more antagonistic and indifferent toward humans than she already is? Wouldn't sending a bunch of negatively loaded terms her way only deprive her of any hope she might have of NOT being a sociopath? Why do you think she came here, after all? To simply be told, "Yes, you're a sociopath, lol"? I really doubt it.

At any rate, please give evidence backing up your claims before saying that I am playing doctor here. No, I'm not a doctor, but I'm definitely not "playing" either and have done a lot of research over the past year on cluster B disorders and psychopathy/sociopathy. I was severely psychologically abused for several years by someone who was on the narcissistic-psychopathic end of the spectrum and I myself suffer(ed) from histrionic-borderline traits. As such, I don't take the subject lightly at all. There are a lot of nuances to cluster B disorders that people miss all the time, and sociopathy and psychopathy are not always the right answers.

Remember what she said: she hates people and likes to control them, but that she has empathy, especially for animals. At first glance, sure, I can see how that may look like sociopathy... but can you really say for certain, given the "empathy" part? Whenever anyone brings up the word "empathy" when talking about sociopathy, psychopathy, ASPD, and NPD, I pay particularly close attention to it. There are many interpretations of what exactly sociopathy constitutes, but lack of empathy and remorselessness are the two major standards that most people seem to agree upon. Some say it only takes one of those criteria; I think it takes both. So I think it would be wise to inquire what exactly "empathy" means to her before jumping to conclusions and saying that she is a definite sociopath. That's my two cents and I'm sticking to it.

OH,now I see why you were mentioning Borderline Personality and other disorders.

The problem is all in projection......because you went through terrible abuse you have a need to show empathy for this girl because you THINK she is a victim.Believe me I went back over her statements and she is NO VICTIM ! She might be the devil's sister but she is NO VICTIM ...LOL

1) She say's she has found after studying humans that she can " RUIN LIVES ".

2) She admits to flirting with guys just to control them which is a BIG characteristic of the Socio...CONTROL OF HUMANS.

3) She say's she is CHARMING and that gets her a long way in life.Charm is a false face the Socio puts on like a wolf in sheeps clothing.

She say's " I just forge friendships to get what I want " which is the the Preditory part of the Socio because even in a Cat Scan they have a different brain and think like a preditory shark.

There are 12.5 million Sociopaths in North America and I don't care if she say's she might NOT be one....LOL

"The problem is all in projection......because you went through terrible abuse you have a need to show empathy for this girl because you THINK she is a victim."

You are both right and wrong. My negative experience certainly colored my perception of people, I give you that, but my desire to empathize with the poster is more complicated than simply projection.

"Believe me I went back over her statements and she is NO VICTIM ! She might be the devil's sister but she is NO VICTIM ...LOL"

And to that, I say that we probably still don't know her whole story. Sure, she may say all of that stuff about dissociating from others and learning how to manipulate people. Yet, it's a bit odd that she never concretely specifies how she felt or acted before the age of 12, other than with statements like "early on." If some early childhood trauma in her life is the cause of her malicious behavior, she may have unconsciously blocked it out or deliberately excluded it from her story. Unless her brain was defective from the day she was born, altered at a point where memories hadn't yet begun to form, or suffered an irreversible injury, I see no reason to not believe that she may have been a better person and that same capacity for good still exists within her...buried though it may be.

"1) She say's she has found after studying humans that she can " RUIN LIVES "."

True, yet the fact that she discovered this at the onset of adolescence is nothing surprising. A lot of teenagers are sociopaths in the making--it's just that the vast majority of them do away with (most of) their anti-social tendencies. If she discovered her "talent" earlier though, that would be another story.


"2) She admits to flirting with guys just to control them which is a BIG characteristic of the Socio...CONTROL OF HUMANS."

You're right, but it's not quite that simple. There are big differences in maliciousness between simply thinking about people as puppets, actually wanting to control people, acting upon that desire to control, enjoying the manipulation, and not showing remorse for the behavior. Yes, she does say she doesn't feel remorse for most things, and that's a big warning sign, but there's still the issue of her actually wanting to toy with people in the first place. She said that she feels like an "unwilling participant" in an experiment that she herself designs. Why does she feel like she doesn't have that same level of control over herself that she has over others? The answer could be something deeper that we don't know about. Personally, I think she has doubts about playing god, which comes back to why she even bothered to ask if she's a sociopath. Could her main intention have been merely to make a false appeal for sympathy while giving herself an excuse to brag about her misdeeds? Absolutely. However, I'm of the belief that there's more to it than that.

"3) She say's she is CHARMING and that gets her a long way in life.Charm is a false face the Socio puts on like a wolf in sheeps clothing."

This I can't disagree with. I mean, obviously, people who aren't sociopaths can be charming without malicious intent...but yes, it's very apparent what the charm is being used for here.

"She say's " I just forge friendships to get what I want " which is the the Preditory part of the Socio because even in a Cat Scan they have a different brain and think like a preditory shark."

Right, but not all sociopaths thought like the "predatory shark" when they were younger. If scientists can find a way for an earlier map of their brain wiring to replace the current one, like a new game file overwriting an old one, then there may yet be hope for them.

"There are 12.5 million Sociopaths in North America and I don't care if she say's she might NOT be one....LOL"

That's fine, but I do care because sociopathy is such a problematic term. It's been used both interchangeably with and differently from psychopathy and antisocial personality disorder, which can make things really confusing and create misinformation. More importantly, while sociopaths may do horrible things, even they have feelings, egocentric and primal as they may be...so I'd like to hear them out, regardless of what they've done.

I wouldn't date a Sociopath to find out how evil they are.All the research people say the best thing is to expose them and then they will go away and hide while looking for a NEW VICTIM.If you can't expose them then AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS.

If you play with these subhumans then you are playing a dangerous game that you will lose.

It would be NIRVANA if we could correct or remove the 12.5 million con men,rapists,thieves and evil doers.I will no longer make comments on this subject.I suggest you date her and wait till she rips your throat out as you sleep or destroys you for the pleasure of it while you empathise her actions.

"The inferior brain?" Buddy, the Socio's are the next evolution.

It is very sad to see these words. When you get older you won't be so flippant about life and happiness.

I agree with you retiremesoon, in everything you say. To the blogger -- I am sorry for you but I know you cannot return the same to me. The words that you are saying could be coming out of the mouths of either of the two sociopaths I know who have created havoc and ruin in my life.

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You are pretty and quite a lot like myself, I have never felt had a problem doing anything, nor would I abut hurting an animal. I find it pointless and therefore I would not do it, I have had to drown pups before (if you know anything about dogs you will know why) it did not give me any pleasure but i have never lost sleep over it. Me and my current girlfriend were watching videos on a sick jokes website, we watched a video of a forced abortion in China. She started weeping and pressed her face against my chest, a smile crept across my face as I knew what to do from here to comfort her. I do not feel bad about that, I would do it again. If I am a sociopath, then I am a practical one, I find what you are doing to be petty.

I'm a diagnosed monster and I can tell you that my story is quite similar to yours. If its true,that is, we do tend to be liars. Some sociopaths form bonds with animals as a substitute for human interaction. We lie and manipulate other people because we desire control. With animals we get what we perceive as love (I believe it more of a need to survive on the animal's part) and we get that relationship on our own terms with complete control.

Yes they can. However by caring for an animal you have the capacity to care and love. Embrace this so you don't self destruct like most sociopaths end up doing. Try to transfer the feeling to a human you're fond of.