Backslider, God Wants You Back

After reading a few of churinga's comments and stories, I checked out a website he seems to draw a lot from: www.evangelicaloutreach.org.
One of the things this site seems adamant one is that a Christian can lose their salvation if their commit certain sins, but that they can receive their salvation anew if (and only if) they repent of those sins and stop committing them. They base this on many scriptural passages, and their arguments make very good sense. As a Christian, loving God and desiring to get rid of sin (even though I have failed many times), this has provoked a lot of thinking and self-reflection. One of their articles, I think, is encouraging to people who are convinced they've lost their salvation, because it teaches that yes, you may have lost your salvation, but the good news is you can receive it again. I am still pondering these things and will pray God to show me if they are true, but in the meantime I am sharing this with you:

Backslider, God Wants You Back!

A backslider is a person who once had salvation, but has since turned away from the Lord Jesus to the point that he is now spiritually lost and dead again, just like he was before becoming saved. The Bible is filled with examples of people who turned away from God temporarily or permanently. Some returned, like King David and Peter (who were deeply repentant and resolved to never commit their sin again).
Some think they sinned too much and too grievously while others think they committed eternal sin and therefore can’t get forgiven. There is, perhaps, no more downcast person than a repentant person who isn’t sure he can come back to God and find forgiveness, though he desperately wants forgiven!
In Luke 15:11-32 (parable of the prodigal son) the Lord Jesus taught about the backslider, and how God reacts to a repentant one.
  • The prodigal repented when he came to his senses. This means a person who remains unrepentant and in sin that is dragging him to hell is not in his right spiritual senses. He has been spiritually blinded by something or deceived somehow.
  • The prodigal was able to find forgiveness after he turned from all the wickedness he had been in that held him in spiritual death. Repentance (turning from sin) to serve God is illustrated in this teaching. Though he was in wild living, including sexual sin with prostitutes, for an unknown period of time—perhaps many years—he still found forgiveness.
  • The prodigal became alive again and his lost spiritual condition changed upon turning from all those sins and humbly coming back to the Father to serve him. Compare to 1 Thess. 1:9b.
  • The only time in the Bible that we read where the Father ran is in this teaching and it was to welcome the repentant backslider back home.
  • The Father was so happy to have him back he hugged and kissed him as well as celebrated.
  • This teaching proves that a spiritually lost and dead person could be a person never saved or one that was once saved.
God Delights to Show Mercy to the Repentant!

The fact that God delights to show mercy to the repentant is but also candidly declared in the following passage:
Who is a God like you, who pardons sin and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? You do not stay angry forever but delight to show mercy. You will again have compassion on us; you will tread our sins underfoot and hurl all our iniquities into the depths of the sea (Micah 7:18,19).
Another relevant passage is:
He who conceals his sins does not prosper, but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy (Prov 28:13).
The Bible also says about those who sin after getting saved:
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9).
David’s prayer as a backslider returning to God and asking God for forgiveness shows the pain and misery, he and others like him, are in Psalm 51:1-11.
To be a Biblically wise person, one must put into practice the word of God and by doing such he is identified as a member of Jesus’ spiritual family. (Mt. 7:24-27; Luke 8:21).

Jesus was the only one who ever mentioned eternal sin in Mark 3:29,30.
If you would go back and start reading at Mark 3:22 you will learn more about those who committed such a form of blasphemy. They were saying that Jesus had a demon and by the power of the devil he was casting them out and performing his miracles. This is what Jesus identified as eternal sin. It is not adultery, murder, disowning Jesus, or any other kind of sin. All of the latter can be forgiven, but not eternal sin. Eternal sin is apparently the type of sin those mentioned in Heb. 6:4-6 committed and, therefore, they could not be renewed again by repentance.

So, backslider, come home. God wants you back. It is the devil that is tormenting your mind and trying to make you think you cannot return to God. Remember also all the good that Peter did after he returned to God from his backslidden condition. God used him mightily and can do the same with you. Yes, you too can do great things for the kingdom of God, if you have sincerely returned to God from wickedness and will faithfully serve him.
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If you can lose your salvation so easily by becoming spiritually dead and then gain it again by being forgiven, then what Christ has paid for us on the cross was not "Eternal Life" but "Temporary Life". The truth is anyone's guess, I suppose. Only God knows for sure...

Why would it be temporal? I don't understand. Jesus paid our find heaped up from our sins that we may have everlasting life. Now if we willingly sin and do not confess and forsake them we lost our everlasting life. Everlasting life is only achieved after you endure till the end. When Jesus talks of everlasting he is not talking about our life on earth but our eternal life. And there is no 'temporal' after dying in this life, it is even heaven or hell for ever.
Again the only temporal are the things of this life. Doesn't mean they are not important though for what goes on, in this life determines what happens for ever. God bless hopes this helps.

Thankyou for hope I failed god dreadfully and now I want to desperately comeback to him. For without the lord there is no happiness he is vital for life!

I am convinced he wants to take you back. Just let him, and surrender to him. God bless you>

your salvation is never lost once received. It is a gift of God. As Charles Stanley says,<br />
" To believe that is to elevate the works of man, and depreciate the holiness of God".<br />
Rewards will all differ but a son is a son. It is pride that believes you hold on to your salvation by your good works. Did you drive 21 mph in a school zone when the speed limit was 20??? Think about it.,<br />
What level of sin costs you your salvation. I highly encourage you to read Charles Stanley's book, " Eternal Security can you be sure " It will free you.<br />
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Charles Stanley is a false teacher and preaches another Gospel. The Bible WARNS Believers that they can indeed lose their salvation and end up being unto perdition and that is by deliberately sinning. The Book of Hebrews is full of warnings( Chapter6, Chapter 10, Chapter2)and so are other books in the Bible that talk about God forsaking people leaving them damned. For example, Judas Iscariot was saved at one point. He had the Holy Spirit and cast out devils and was promised a throne Matthew 19:28. But he betrayed Jesus and ended up being damned to Hell. What do you think Jesus meant when he said, "But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born." Why would Jesus say this if he was still saved and had a chance into Heaven? That's what "Eternal Security" suggests. John 17:12. He was called the Son of Perdition. That's DAMNATION. Only those in Heaven have Eternal security. You can must endure and abide in Jesus till the END. Or you will indeed lose salvation. If you die in your sin, you will go to Hell and the Lake of Fire and lose eternal life regardless if you had accepted Jesus into your life some years ago. Also OBEYING Jesus is NOT good works. It's being obedient till death. If you're living in sins you're not being obedient and you will NOT inherit the Kingdom.

So basically, what you are implying Iwantedtobe4God is that Jesus, the Son of God, was fooled by a man, Judas. You are referencing this situation out of context. Jesus had to have known everything inside Judas' heart and known that he was going to sell him out. Jesus offered him eternal life just as the rest but how are we to know inside Judas' heart he could have never accepted it to begin with.

And on eternal security, if Christians can lose salvation, a given gift from God, what is even the point of being a Christian, we should just commit suicide? You would have to define a threshold of when you lose it. If a backslider like myself is living in sin and has lost salvation, then would not every Christian lose salvation after the first sin they commit as a Christian sin in that moment they are living in sin. We are human, we are born into sin neither you or I can live a sinless life as we are not God. Though, I never said it goes without punishment, however, punishment, helplessness, adversity, shame, etc. all these serve to pull you back to God. A person who is unsaved and totally rejects God of their own will I feel would ignore and be unfazed by these feelings, however to someone that was once saved and led astray, are those feelings not from your "dormant" Godly spirit saying you need to get right?

There are many examples in the bible of Christian loss of salvation. explain Ananias and Sapphira, you may say we didn't know there heart, but then what about the prodigal son who was dead, the father in the story was Symbolizing Father God, only someone who's born again is a child of God. All were created by God but not all children.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *SHOULD NOT* perish, but have everlasting life.
Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that WORK INEQUITY.

Luke 13:27 ...depart from me, ALL ye workers of iniquity.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the END shall be saved.
2 Peter 2:20-21 KJV
[20] For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. [21] For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

1 John 2:1 My little children these things I wright unto you, that ye sin not. ...

Eze 33:12Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.

Read whole Ezekiel chapter 33.

Eze 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

Now don't get me wrong I don't want to be a hypocrite I do often times fall into sin. But I don't want you to believe you can be in sin and still go to heaven. Are you implying that apostles or John the Baptist could have lived like devils and still go into God's Holy Kingdom, God forbid! It is a dangerous, and perhaps damnable heresy.

And again don't get me wrong. I'm not implying that God doesn't want to forgive. And there isnt a certain security for a believer(Matthew 18:11-14 KJV
[11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. [12] How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [13] And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep , than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [14] Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.)
, that a sinner doesn't have, but to believe in once saved always saved is complete foolishness and never seen in scripture. If what's in a mans book doesn't back up Gods book, disregard those things written.

Now I leave you with these.

Matt 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore EVERY tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Also it is possible to live without sin. I myself do not but one day, I rest in my faith, I will be able to never commit the slightest sin again. If you don't believe you can't live without sinning I think it's bazaar. You would have to believe the God of the universe, who created it in 6 days, walked on water, fed 5,000 people with 5 loaves of bread and two fishes, who gave his life and took it back again, raised the dead, cleansed leprosy, The Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last is not able to cause you to live free from sin while his angels encamp around you and his Holy Spirit *in* you than you need to reconsider. This goes for me to of course for like I said i have fallen a couple times. God bless I hope this helps you to get out of the category in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 (For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;)

PS. suicide is a sin( thou shalt not kill) that leads to hell every time. You don't have the time to ask forgiveness nor repent of it, it's just too late.
Definition of Kill- to deprive of life in any manner; (dictionary app)

And this goes for me too!

Thank you! A realist who knows scripture. I know from experience just how horrifying it is to be rejected. I've been dead for nearly eleven years.

I cannot presume to know who is right on this issue. We can only, each of us individually, put our trust in Jesus and his redemptive work, and let him transform us from within. We cannot and should never presume of God's grace: "What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?" Romans 6:1-2. Grace should motivate us to draw near to God and renounce sin. I believe we all sin, but what we cannot do is keep on sinning and refusing to repent. And we are saved, not THROUGH works, but FOR works. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith —and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." Ephesiens 2:8-10.

There are many examples in the bible of Christian loss of salvation. explain Ananias and Sapphira, you may say we didn't know there heart, but then what about the prodigal son who was dead, the father in the story was Symbolizing Father God, only someone who's born again is a child of God. All were created by God but not all children.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *SHOULD NOT* perish, but have everlasting life.
Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that WORK INEQUITY.

Luke 13:27 ...depart from me, ALL ye workers of iniquity.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the END shall be saved.
2 Peter 2:20-21 KJV
[20] For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. [21] For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

1 John 2:1 My little children these things I wright unto you, that ye sin not. ...

Eze 33:12Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.

Read whole Ezekiel chapter 33.

Eze 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

Now don't get me wrong I don't want to be a hypocrite I do often times fall into sin. But I don't want you to believe you can be in sin and still go to heaven. Are you implying that apostles or John the Baptist could have lived like devils and still go into God's Holy Kingdom, God forbid! It is a dangerous, and perhaps damnable heresy.

And again don't get me wrong. I'm not implying that God doesn't want to forgive. And there isnt a certain security for a believer(Matthew 18:11-14 KJV
[11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. [12] How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [13] And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep , than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [14] Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.)
, that a sinner doesn't have, but to believe in once saved always saved is complete foolishness and never seen in scripture. If what's in a mans book doesn't back up Gods book, disregard those things written.

Now I leave you with these.

Matt 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore EVERY tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Also it is possible to live without sin. I myself do not but one day, I rest in my faith, I will be able to never commit the slightest sin again. If you don't believe you can't live without sinning I think it's bazaar. You would have to believe the God of the universe, who created it in 6 days, walked on water, fed 5,000 people with 5 loaves of bread and two fishes, who gave his life and took it back again, raised the dead, cleansed leprosy, The Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last is not able to cause you to live free from sin while his angels encamp around you and his Holy Spirit *in* you than you need to reconsider. This goes for me to of course for like I said i have fallen a couple times. God bless I hope this helps you to get out of the category in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 (For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;)

PS. suicide is a sin( thou shalt not kill) that leads to hell every time. You don't have the time to ask forgiveness nor repent of it, it's just too late.
Definition of Kill- to deprive of life in any manner; (dictionary app)

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