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The Shocking Truth About Domestic Violence, Part One

For decades feminists have ferociously villified the whole male sex over domestic violence. They have portrayed marriage as dangerous for women because it pairs them with those violent beasts known as men. They have forced laws and customs of police enforcement that facilitate false charges against men in marital dissolution situations on a massive scale and make the seeking of justice by male victims of domestic violence an exercise which is much worse than futile. And it's all founded upon a lie.

A lesbian group on EP says “Sleep Safe Because I Sleep With A Woman.” Yet lesbian relationships are by far the most violent of all. (1) "According to the US Justice Department crime statistics, domestic abuse is virtually nonexistent for married women living with their husbands. From 1993 to 2005, the number of married women victimized by their husbands ranged from 0.9 to 3.2 per 1000.” (2)
Feminists angrily “demand an end to domestic violence against women and children.” Yet a substantial majority of lethal and nonlethal abuse of children, as well as almost all cases of criminal neglect, are perpetrated by women, and the feminists do not display the slightest interest in fostering tougher treatment of female child abusers. (3) Given the adult on adult statistics below, that means that DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A PRIMARILY FEMALE BEHAVIOR even though all of the opprobrium for it has been placed upon men. Even if the statistics were reversed the way people imagine they are, the imputation of collective guilt to men for the behavior of a minority of them would be outrageous. And I make no imputation of collective guilt to women.

Patricia Pearson, author of When She Was Bad : Violent Women and the Myth of Innocence, wrote : “Women commit the majority of child homicides in the U.S., a greater share of physical child abuse, an equal rate of sibling violence and assaults on the elderly, about a quarter of child sexual abuse, an overwhelming share of the killing of newborns, and a fair preponderance of spousal assaults. The question is, how do we come to perceive what girls and women do? Violence is still universally considered to be the province of the male. Violence is masculine. Men are the cause of it, and women and children are the ones who suffer.” (p. 7) Contrary to popular belief, women are not typically acting in self-defense when abusing men. (4)

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/fam27.htm
FAMILY VIOLENCE A report from: Family Resources & Research
* Women commit most child abuse in intact biological families. When the man is removed from the family the children are at greater risk. * Mother-only households are more dangerous to children than father- only households. * Children are 3 times more likely to be fatally abused in Mother-only Households than in Father-only Households, and many times more likely in households where the mother cohabits with a man other than the biological father. * Children raised in Single-mother Households are 8 times more likely to become killers than children raised with their biological father.
Other studies reveal more about female violence against children: * Women hit their male children more frequently and more severely than they hit their female children. * Women commit 55% of child murders and 64% of their victims are male children. * Eighty two percent of the general population had their first experience of violence at the hands of women, usually their mother.... Yet, 3.1 million reports of child abuse are filed against men each year, most of which are false accusations used as leverage in a divorce or custody case.
...Most leaders in the women's shelter movement are fully aware of the broader scope of family violence but hold fast to the villain/victim dogma. The directors of women's shelters almost always know that they are deliberately misleading the public. Why? They must maintain their power and fund raising base. If they lose their special "victim status" they will rapidly go out of business. They do not
want to be replaced with a gender neutral, family friendly, community service agency that implements policy on the basis of scientific studies rather than gender propaganda.
We think it is important to note that there have been the same kind of studies done in many countries. There is cross-cultural verification that women are more violent than men in family settings. When behavior has cross-cultural verification it means that it is part of human nature rather than a result of cultural conditioning. Females are most often the perpetrators in spousal violence in all but one of the cultures that have been studied to date. That leads many professionals to conclude that there is something biological about violent females in family situations. Researchers are now exploring the role of the "territorial imperative" as a factor in womens violence against men. Women see the home as their territory. Like many other species on the planet, we humans will ignore size difference when we experience conflict on our own territory. So, the scientific results that reveal the violence of American women are not unique to our culture, and do not indicate a special pathology among American women. World wide, women are more violent than men in family settings.
One of the leading researchers in this field did a cross-cultural comparison of marital abuse entitled "Married Couples from 9 Different Cultures". These cross-cultural studies yielded results very similar to family violence studies done in the United States and other nations. Another survey of couples in Canada found the same familiar pattern in that the rate of severe husband-to-wife violence was 4.8%, while severe wife-to-husband violence was 10%.
The Canadian study below is typical of the results of scientific studies on family violence done in many nations.
Female Vs. Male Perpetrated Violence As A %age Of All Respondents:
Minor Violence % of females % of males Threw an object (not at partner) 23.6 15.8 Threaten to throw object 14.9 7.3 Threw object at partner 16.2 4.6 Pushed or grabbed 19.8 17.2 Severe Violence Slapped, punched, kicked 15.8 7.3 Used weapon 3.1 0.9 Violence as self defense 9.9 14.8 Alcohol factor 8.0 16.0 My partner needed medical help 14.3 21.4 Overall Violence 39.1 26.3

Spouse Abuse a Two-Way Street By Warren Farrell, Ph.D. USA Today, June 29, 1994
...About a dozen studies in the U.S. and Canada asked BOTH sexes how often they hit each other, all of them found that women hit men either more frequently or about as often as the reverse.
Two of the main studies - by Suzanne Steinmetz, Murray Straus and Richard Gelles - assumed men hit women more severely, so they divided domestic violence into seven different levels of severity. They were surprised to discover that, overall, the more severe levels of violence were conducted more by women against men.
A caveat, though. Men hitting women did more damage than the reverse. However, this caveat carried its own caveat: it was exactly because men's hits hurt more that women resorted to more severe methods (i.e. tossing boiling water over her husband or swinging a frying pan into his face). These findings were supported by the Census Bureaus own survey: As early as 1977, the U.S. Census Bureau conducted the National Crime Survey, surveying 60,000 households every six months for three and one half years. They found women use weapons against men 82% of the time; men use weapons against women 25% of the time. Overall, they found that even the women acknowledged they hit men more than men hit women.
The key issue, though, is who initiates this cycle of violence. Steinmetz, Strauss and Gelles found to their initial surprise that women are more likely to be the first initiators. Why? In part, the belief that men can take it - - they can therefore be a punching bag and not be expected to hit back.
I was still a bit incredulous. I asked thousands of men and women in my workshops to count all the relationships in which they had hit their partner before their partner had ever it them. and vice versa. About 60% of the women acknowledged they had more often been the first to strike a blow: among the men, about 90% felt their female partner had been the first to strike a blow...
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/trauma-and-violence/content/article/10168/1546465

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/trauma-and-violence/content/article/10168/1546465
Newer Perspectives on Domestic Violence
By Arnold Robbins, MD, DFAPA | April 1, 2010
...in May 2007, in the American Journal of Public Health, a well respected and peer reviewed journal, a study appeared by Daniel Whitaker and his colleagues Tadesse Haileyesus, Monice Swahn, and Linda Saltzman. (5) In this beautifully executed study, the authors sought to examine the prevalence of reciprocal (ie, perpetrated by both partners) and nonreciprocal intimate partner violence (IPV), and to determine whether reciprocity is related to violence frequency and injury. All in all 18,761 respondents were studied.
The results showed that almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half were reciprocally violent. In non-reciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of cases. Reciprocity was associated with much more frequent violence among women, but not men (adjusted odds ratio 2.3 for women and 1.26 for men). Regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury (adjusted odds ratio 1.5 and 1.1), and reciprocal intimate partner violence was associated with greater injury than was nonreciprocal IPV, regardless of the gender of the perpetrator. The authors discuss a recent meta-analysis with the finding that a woman’s perpetration of violence was the strongest predictor of her being a victim of partner violence. And included in the conclusions of the study was the very important finding that the context of the violence (reciprocal vs nonreciprocal) is a strong predictor of reported injury. As one of its conclusions the authors state that prevention approaches that address the escalation of partner violence may be needed to address the reciprocal violence (Italics mine). The authors further state they were surprised to learn that with violence that was not reciprocal, women were the perpetrators in a majority of cases.
Other groups set out to replicate or refute the conclusions of the Whitaker group. A recent article in the current issue of the Journal Violence and Victims reported research funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse and the National Institute of Mental Health and conducted by researchers affiliated with the University of Washington’s Social Development Research Group. (6) This group reviewed the social and antisocial behavior of more than 800 participants. Their findings:
Nearly twice as many women as men said they perpetrated domestic violence in the past year including kicking, biting, or punching their partner, threatening to hit or throw something at their partner, and pushing, grabbing, or shoving their partner...

(1) http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/trauma-and-violence/content/article/10168/1546465 ; http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-80.htm#dutton
(2) Anne Coulter, Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America, pp.57-58.
(3) Thomas James, Domestic Violence: The Twelve Things You Aren’t Supposed to Know. Chula Vista, California: Aventine Press, 2003, page 119. Some feminists go so far as to advocate that there be no incarceration of women, given their view that sexist victimization is the reason for female criminality, which therefore doesn't “count."
(4) James, pp. 29, 37, 53-55.
(5) Whitaker D, Haileyesus T, Swahn M, Saltzman L. Differences in frequency of violence and reported injury between relationships with reciprocal and nonreciprocal intimate partner biolence. Am. J Public Health. 2007;97:197-198.
(6) Williams JH, Van Dorn RA, Hawkins JD, Abbott R, Catalano RF. (2001). Correlates contributing to involvement in violent behaviors among young adults. Violence and Victims. 2001;16:371-388.
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As a % of those who have the power I see no evidence that the % of women who have the power to be abusive is less then the % of men in the same position.<br />
Also women can be abusive without themselves doing the physical act but by getting others to do it.<br />
Like girls in school who admire and want to hang out with the bullies which encourages them to be even more violent.<br />
Men in blogs and other places where they can be more anonymous report on abuse they are afraid to report to authorities where the would be known and ridiculed as "wusses" for being abused by women.<br />
Women on the other hand have the media and authorities and public sympathy all on their side so they have every reason to report any man who so much as looks sideways at them.<br />
There are mandatory 'sensitivity training' classes for men and I do not hear of women being forced to attend certainly not every-time the men report being harassed. <br />
I see no proof that anything provided here was "clearly unbiased".<br />
There are lies Da#n lies an Statistics. <br />
Automatically labeling some man as 'violent' just because he does not accept some feminist argument is also biased and makes it sound like the one making the label might be pone to thinking that way about any man who does not give into the feminist misandric ideology.

" o one ever said that women can't be abusive as well...just happens to be that more men do it then women." shows your ignorance of the facts." How can you say that? Are you serious? How do you know how many men don't report being abused if its never reported? You are assuming the numbers are large, when you really don't know. And how do you know that the numbers of women who aren't reporting being abused aren't even larger. Denying that statistics that have been provided by sources that are clearly unbiased and have a realistic basis for what they are reporting could be real, while insisting that statistics which don't have as realistic of a basis, or have no basis at all must be true just continues to show how completely and utterly biased and unwilling to recognize the truth you are. Just keep it up, because doing so just continues to knock you further and further down in the eyes of people who initially thought you might be fair minded and rational. "Not all men are violent. The fact that you want to label us as such shows that you are a bigot without question." She never said "all men are violent" and indicated she wanted to label you as such. When are you going to stop hearing what you want to hear and instead start hearing what is actually being said or what is clearly true? But as I said, just keep it up.

Ladyblue you know perfectly well that using their greater physical strength, hard drinking, testosterone-fuelled women frequently overpower helpless men and beat the living daylights out of them just because the table napkins weren't folded right. You know it and I know it, so come on now. Give the MRAs a fair break.

this is obnoxious....do you know how many women don't actually report the violence that happens. I was horribly abused, but it was never reported so therefore I am not in those statistics. I wish men would stop feeling as tho they need to break down women. No one ever said that women can't be abusive as well...just happens to be that more men do it then women. UGH...i don't even know what to say

Far fewer by % of abuse men are willing to look "un-manly" or like a "wimp" to report abuse done to them by women then there are of women willing to report it.
If I had a dollar for every-time some man hating feminist said "if he's getting it up, he ain't getting raped" I'd be a multimillionaire.
Many men have gone to prison on false charged just because some woman SAID he was abusing her or had "tried to".
And also by % you cannot show that a greater % of men who have power are abusive vs the % of women who have similar or greater power.
How about all those female teachers having sex with their under age students for example?
How about all the boys in school beaten up by bullies because their GIRLFRIENDS egged them on, to do it?
I could go on and on with examples that do not show up in the opposite gender abuse, statistics but that are no less horrible or destructive.

According to statistics DV is gender equal. Another words about the same number of women are violent as men. The majority of DV is reciprocal. Meaning that they were beating on each other.
" o one ever said that women can't be abusive as well...just happens to be that more men do it then women." shows your ignorance of the facts.
" I wish men would stop feeling as tho they need to break down women." shows that you are a bigot. Not all men are violent. The fact that you want to label us as such shows that you are a bigot without question.

Has anyone noticed that the folks that contribute to these story groups tend to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on?<br />
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Am I the only one who's noticed this phenomenon?

DenteAvvelenato, yes I read your comments and I read them fairly. This entails reading what is there, not what one thinks is there. Unfortunately, the problem begins right away when you rely on just listing facts alone. “you would see several different sources” - credibility is not just about listing sources and references. It’s about what You mean to say Supported By Those Sources. You do not do this - You’re Not Saying Anything; again what you do is just list things ad infinitum expecting that the length and throwing them at people’s faces will carry the day. Where are You in this? Where are Your Original Ideas? Taken as is, your writings proceed from false and stale assumptions that it will somehow fly. Any Writing and Composition professor would have given this unfinished work back to you for not only containing no substance, but close to plagiarism. You basically got a book and threw it at the reader – it’s surprising you didn’t put your own name on it. Facts alone do not make a point. Much less artful, creative and persuasive rapport. <br />
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Readers likely stop midway through these one-dimensional fact listings without “writer’s presence” due to this repetitive rinse-and-repeat formula. You do this disservice to the reader all by yourself with no help from anyone else. Proceeding from these assumptions evokes the notion in the reader that you’re not even aware you are doing this. If you don’t understand this, I will simplify things for you. You know when you see a kid that tries to pass BS to you and you know from experience what they’re doing? That kid must be expecting “whoosh” *waves hand over head* “that this is just flying over my head!” But you know from experience that It Isn’t. You can’t Bullsh*t a Bullsh*tter. <br />
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Well, you’re playing checkers while others are playing chess.<br />
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You’ve made excuses for not having to develop material on your own; then relied on the work of others to speak on your behalf by simply listing them without convictions or passions behind them. Reasoning first what you as a writer want to say is the most central part. Gathering the supporting information is subsequent to that. You’re doing the reverse - finding data first (in order to have ammunition at the ready), then forming an opinion later. This is analogous to fitting a square peg into a round hole – it just “ain’t gonna fit.” But somehow, you’ve managed to do so. Apparently, fairness is not something you are familiar with. I don’t know what more to say to you. The smart readers here can Sense The Dishonesty in your harangues. You do this to yourself by creating your own problems. Even the most cursory review of the “Little Brown Handbook” would be an improvement towards your magnum opus.

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If you had actually read my comment you would see several different sources essentially reporting similar findings. <br />
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I do not feel responsible to go into depth why I believe each of the sources were unbiased, truthful and accurate.<br />
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Additionally when someone calls into question the legitimacy of information I post why would they believe my explaination as to why I feel the source is unbiased honest ect...?<br />
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When I question a source I do not expect the person posting the information to explain the source only to sight the reference so i may research and come to my own conclusions about its credibility I don't find it in any way representing a lack of intelligence or character to expect others to do the same.<br />
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Additonally the information was intentionally posted in a manner which left my opinion unvoiced so that others would see just the studies, surveys, polls, ect... and come to their own conclusions. I find nothing antagonistic or unintelligent about it. In fact I often leave my opinion out of comments posted within certain groups so as to not intentionally start arguements.<br />
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I also see you saw it fit to personally attack me but to also block me. To me this is disrespectful, if your going to force me to listen to your point of view you should have the couth to allow me to respond.<br />
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I have gone to college and did take a ethics classes and some statistics classes. You posted the rules of that but failed to mention that each individual is supposed to check validity, correlation, accuracy and bias when evaluating information. I don't see the point of you questioning that as anything other than you trying to passively agressively intimidate me with your "knowledge" of statistical theory. Of course I am unimpressed and confident in both my intentions and my intellect. I stand by the facts I posted and the sources they came from. <br />
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I have a bit of advice for you, instead of making judgements and comming to unfounded conclusions take a little time and read other posts made by someone. If you would have done that you would see that I've talked about this at length in other places, you would also have seen I have posted about the very information you so quickly attacked me for not providing and you would know my opinions on this subject.<br />
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Thank you for your input.

Concept as usual sir your story is right on the mark. And your conduct is above reproach by any reason person. I enjoyed your story. Thanks for posting.

DenteAvvelenato, you did not answer theadvantageoflife’s question when he specifically asked about the honesty, conduct, and evidence that the study was unbiased, non-partisan, etc. Totally ignoring his legitimate request, you said “you can analyze the study if you like” – well it’s expected that YOU analyzed and absorbed its meaning prior to posting it. Understanding what another’s analysis means is central before supporting yourself with such data, much less prior to posting it as having any meaning within an argument. <br />
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Your additional mention of “it is published in an academic journal” leaves it to theadvantageoflife to review says three things: 1) you abdicated your responsibility to clarify it for him (or show respect to him and at least try) and basically wiped your hands clean of it; 2) raises a red flag in the reader’s mind if you actually know what you’re talking about; and 3) you know just enough to throw facts and figures about, but not enough to have discourse as to their meaning and intent. Also, fact length does not = credibility. Get to the point. <br />
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Your mention of “this study compares the prevalence and consequences of violence perpetrated against men and women by marital and opposite-sex cohabiting partners” does not go beyond the stating of facts. What does the comparison say? What are your impressions on that? conceptualclarity proceeded from convictions and supported them with appropriate facts. You on the other hand did not state your conviction, passion or supposition at all – just threw out facts. conceptualclarity moves forward from a position of respect for others. You proceed from a position of disdain for others.<br />
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Tossing the issue out of hand when someone asks you for assistance is proverbially “passing the buck.” Anybody can cut and paste, but this looks like a diversionary tactic worthy of an unprepared chess pla<x>yer; not someone who wants decent and reasoned discourse. It appears that you gather facts and statistics not to find a middle ground with conceptualclarity, have an honest and open discussion or help others, but to throw it in people’s faces with contempt. Throwing data in people’s faces in an angry manner is disrespectful to others and lowers the discipline of statistics that we depend on in society today. Furthermore, without conveying or understanding its meaning before posting is indicative of subterfuge, deception and artifice. <br />
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Did you actually take statistics in college? If you did, then you would know that the first thing you’re taught is Ethics. This alone speaks for itself. The common practice of introducing/skewing/cherry-picking of statistics to accommodate personal viewpoints has become all too pervasive. Therefore, three things stand out: 1) being seen to be in the “right” is paramount here; 2) an agenda is to be followed and truth is secondary; and 3) you have trouble acknowledging (much less accepting) another person’s views other than your own. This says a lot about you. You do not understand the meaning of the concept of “tolerance” and have shown to be a very toxic person.

@con here are some actual facts on domestic violence.<br />
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Fact #1: 18.3 % of women in the United States have survived a completed or attempted rape. Of these, 12.3% were younger than age 12 when they were first raped, and 29.9% were between the ages of 11 and 17. (National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey 2010)<br />
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Fact #2: 22 million women in the United States have been raped in their lifetime. 63.84% of women who reported being raped, physically assaulted, and/or stalked since age 18 were victimized by a current or former husband, cohabiting partner, boyfriend, or date. (National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey 2010)<br />
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Fact #3: Less than half of domestic violence incidents are reported to police. African-American women are more likely than others to report their victimization to police Lawrence A. Greenfeld et al. (1998). (Violence by Intimates: Analysis of Data on Crimes by Current or Former Spouses, Boyfriends, and Girlfriends. Bureau of Justice Statistics Factbook. Washington DC: U.S. Department of Justice. NCJ #167237. Available from National Criminal Justice Reference Service.)<br />
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Fact #4: The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. U.S. Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only 26% of all rapes or attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement officials.<br />
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Fact #5: Almost one-third of female homicide victims are killed by an intimate partner. (FBI, Uniform Crime Reports 2001)<br />
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Fact #6: The National College Women Sexual Victimization Study estimated that between 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 college women experience completed or attempted rape during their college years (Fisher 2000).<br />
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Fact #7: Men perpetrate the majority of violent acts against women (DeLahunta 1997).<br />
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Fact #8: Every two minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted. (Rape, Abuse and ****** National Network (RAINN) calculation ba<x>sed on 2000 National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice)<br />
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Fact #9: One out of every five American women have been the victims of an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. (The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey 2010)<br />
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Fact #10: Factoring in unreported rapes, about 6% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail. 15 out of 16 will walk free. (Probability statistics ba<x>sed on US Department of Justice Statistics)<br />
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Fact #11: Almost 10% of high school students are victims of dating violence each year. (Youth Risk Behavior Survellience 2009).<br />
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Fact #12: Sexual violence and gender ba<x>sed violence is associated with a host of short- and long-term problems, including physical injury and illness, psychological symptoms, economic costs, and death (Lifetime Prevalence of Gender-ba<x>sed Violence in Women and the Relationship with Mental Disorders and Psychosocial Function, Journal of American Medical Association 2011).<br />
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Fact #13: Rape victims often experience anxiety, guilt, nervousness, phobias, substance abuse, sleep disturbances, depression, alienation, sexual dysfunction, and aggression. They often distrust others and replay the assault in their minds, and they are at increased risk of future victimization (DeLahunta 1997).<br />
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Fact #14: According to the 2010 National Crime Victimization Survey, more than 20,000 rapes or sexual assaults occurred in 2010; 169,370 of them occurred among females and 15,020, among males (Department of Justice 2010).<br />
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Fact #15: Sexual violence victims exhibit a variety of psychological symptoms that are similar to those of victims of other types of trauma, such as war and natural disaster (National Research Council 1996). A number of long-lasting symptoms and illnesses have been associated with sexual victimization including chronic pelvic pain; premenstrual syndrome; gastrointestinal disorders; and a variety of chronic pain disorders, including headache, back pain, and facial pain (Koss 1992).Between 4% and 30% of rape victims contract sexually transmitted diseases as a result of the victimization (Resnick 1997).<br />
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Fact #16: Most female victims are raped before the age of 25, and almost half of female victims are under the age of 18. (National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey 2010).<br />
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Fact #17: In 2006, 78,000 children were sexually abused. (Child Maltreatment 2006.) Because majority of cases are not reported, it is estimated that the real number could be anywhere from 260,000-650,000 a year. (Finklehor 2008).<br />
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Fact #18: About 67.9% of rape victims are white; 11.9% are black; 14% are hispanic and 6% are of other races. (National Crime Victimization Survey, Department of Justice 2010).<br />
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Fact #19: About half of all rape victims are in the lowest third of income distribution; half are in the upper two-thirds. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)<br />
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Fact #20: According to the Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance Survey (YRBSS), a national survey of high school students, 7.4% of students had been forced to have sexual intercourse when they did not want to. Female students (10.5%) were significantly more likely than male students (4.5%) to have been forced to have sexual intercourse. Overall, black students (12%) were significantly more likely than white students (10%) to have been forced to have sexual intercourse (CDC 2010).<br />
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Fact #21: Females ages 12 to 24 are at the greatest risk for experiencing a rape or sexual assault (DOJ 2001).<br />
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Fact #22: Almost two-thirds of all rapes are committed by someone who is known to the victim. 73% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger (— 48% of perpetrators were a friend or acquaintance of the victim, 17% were an intimate and 8% were another relative.) (National Crime Victimization Survey, 2010)<br />
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Fact #23: The costs of intimate partner violence against women exceed an estimated $5.8 billion. These costs include nearly $4.1 billion in the direct costs of medical care and mental health care and nearly $1.8 billion in the indirect costs of lost productivity and present value of lifetime earnings. (Costs of Intimate Partner Violence Against Women in the United States, Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Atlanta, Georgia, March 2003).<br />
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Fact #24: It is estimated that domestic violence occurs in approximately 25-33% of same-sex relationships. (NYC Gay and Lesbian Anti-Violence Project, October 1996.) However, other studies have indicated that anywhere between 17% and 52% of same-sex relationships are abusive. (Relationship Violence in Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer Communities 2005).<br />
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Fact #25: Boys who witness their fathers' violence are 10 times more likely to engage in spouse abuse in later adulthood than boys from non-violent homes. (Family Violence Interventions for the Justice System, 1993)<br />
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Fact #26: An estimated 17,500 women and children are trafficked into the United States annually for sexual exploitation or forced labor. (U.S. Department of State Trafficking in Persons Report 2006).<br />
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Fact #27: Somewhere in America a woman is battered, usually by her intimate partner, every 15 seconds. (UN Study On The Status of Women, Year 2000)<br />
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Fact #28: A University of Pennsylvania research study found that domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to low-income, inner-city Philadelphia women between the ages of 15 to 44 - more common than automobile accidents, mugging and rapes combined. In this study domestic violence included injuries caused by street crime.<br />
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Fact #29: A study reported in the New York Times suggests that one in five adolescent girls become the victims of physical or sexual violence, or both, in a dating relationship. (New York Times, 8/01/01)<br />
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Fact #30: At least 60 million girls who would otherwise be expected to be alive are "missing" from various populations, mostly in Asia, as a result of sex-selective abortions, infanticide or neglect. (UN Study On The Status of Women, Year 2000)<br />
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Fact #31: Globally, at least one in three women and girls is beaten or sexually abused in her lifetime. (UN Commission on the Status of Women, 2/28/00)<br />
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Fact #32: A recent survey by the Kenyan Women Rights Awareness Program revealed that 70% of those interviewed said they knew neighbors who beat their wives. Nearly 60% said women were to blame for the beatings. Just 51% said the men should be punished. (The New York Times, 10/31/97)<br />
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Fact #33: 4 million women and girls are trafficked annually. (United Nations)<br />
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Fact #34: An estimated one million children, mostly girls, enter the sex trade each year (UNICEF)<br />
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Fact #35: A 2005 World Health Organization study reported that nearly one third of Ethiopian women had been physically forced by a partner to have sex against their will within the 12 months prior to the study. (WHO Multi-country Study on Women's Health and Domestic Violence Against Women, 2005)<br />
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Fact #36: In a study of 475 people in prostitution from five countries (South Africa, Thailand, Turkey, USA, and Zambia): 62% reported having been raped in prostitution. 73% reported having experienced physical assault in prostitution. 92% stated that they wanted to escape prostitution immediately. (Melissa Farley, Isin Baral, Merab Kiremire, Ufuk Sezgin, "Prostitution in Five Countries: Violence and Posttraumatic Stress Disorder" (1998) Feminism &amp; Psychology 8 (4): 405-426)<br />
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Fact #37: The most common act of violence against women is being slapped—an experience reported by 9% of women in Japan and 52% in provincial Peru. Rates of sexual abuse also varies greatly around the world—with partner rape being reported by 6% of women from Serbia and Montenegro, 46% of women from provincial Bangladesh, and 59% of women in Ethiopia. (WHO Multi-country Study on Women’s Health and Domestic Violence Against Women, 2005)<br />
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Fact #38: So-called "honour killings" take the lives of thousands of young women every year, mainly in North Africa, Western Asia and parts of South Asia. (UNFPA)<br />
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Fact #39: The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan reported that 2002 saw a 25% increase in “honor killings” of women, with 461 women murdered by family members in 2002, in 2 provinces (Sindh and Punjab) alone. (Pakistan Human Rights Commission, 2002)<br />
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Fact #40: More than 90 million African women and girls are victims of female circumcision or other forms of genital mutilation. (Heise: 1994)<br />
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Fact #41: In eastern and souther Africa, 17 to 22% of girls aged 15 to 19 are HIV-positive, compared to 3 to 7% of boys of similar age. This pattern—seen in many other regions of the world—is evidence that girls are being infected with HIV by a much older cohort of men. (UNICEF/UNAIDS 2007)<br />
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Fact #42: : A 2005 study reported that 7% of partnered Canadian women experienced violence at the hands of a spouse between 1999 and 2004. Of these battered women, nearly one-quarter (23%) reported being beaten, choked, or threatened with a knife or gun. (Family Violence in Canada: A Statistical Profile, 2005)<br />
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Fact #43: In Zimbabwe, domestic violence accounts for more than 60% of murder cases that go through the high court in Harare. (ZWRCN)<br />
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Fact #44: a study in Zaria, Nigeria found that 16 percent of hospital patients treated for sexually transmitted infections were younger than 5. (UNFPA)<br />
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Prevalence of Domestic Violence<br />
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In a 1995-1996 study conducted in the 50 States and the District of Columbia, nearly 25% of women and 7.6% of men were raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or dating partner/acquaintance at some time in their lifetime (ba<x>sed on survey of 16,000 participants, equally male and female).<br />
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Patricia Tjaden &amp; Nancy Thoennes, U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 181867, Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence, at iii (2000), available at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/pubs-sum/181867.htm<br />
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Approximately 1.3 million women and 835,000 men are physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the United States.<br />
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Patricia Tjaden &amp; Nancy Thoennes, U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 183781, Full Report of the Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence Against Women: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, at iv (2000), available at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/pubs-sum/183781.htm<br />
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Intimate partner violence made up 20% of all nonfatal violent crime experienced by women in 2001.<br />
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Callie Marie Rennison, U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 197838, Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief: Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, at 1 (2003), available at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/ipv01.pdf<br />
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Intimate partners committed 3% of the nonfatal violence against men.<br />
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Callie Marie Rennison, U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 197838, Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief: Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, at 1 (2003), available at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/ipv01.pdf<br />
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In 2000, 1,247 women and 440 men were killed by an intimate partner. In recent years, an intimate partner killed approximately 33% of female murder victims and 4% of male murder victims.<br />
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Callie Marie Rennison, U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 197838, Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief: Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, at 1 (2003), available at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/ipv01.pdf<br />
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Access to firearms yields a more than five-fold increase in risk of intimate partner homicide when considering other factors of abuse, according to a recent study, suggesting that abusers who possess guns tend to inflict the most severe abuse on their partners.<br />
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Jacquelyn C. Campbell et al., Risk Factors For Femicide in Abusive Relationships: Results From A Multi-Site Case Control Study, 93 Am. J. of Public Health 1089, 1092 (2003), abstract available at http://www.ajph.org/cgi/content/abstract/93/7/1089<br />
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Of females killed with a firearm, almost two-thirds were killed by their intimate partners. The number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate partner was more than three times higher than the total number murdered by male strangers using all weapons combined in single victim/single offender incidents in 2002.<br />
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The Violence Pol'y Ctr., When Men Murder Women: An Analysis of 2002 Homicide Data: Females Murdered by Males in Single Victim/Single Offender Incidents, at 7 (2004), available at http://www.vpc.org/studies/wmmw2004.pdf<br />
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According to the U.S. Department of Justice, between 1998 and 2002:<br />
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Of the almost 3.5 million violent crimes committed against family members, 49% of these were crimes against spouses. 84% of spouse abuse victims were females, and 86% of victims of dating partner abuse at were female. Males were 83% of spouse murderers and 75% of dating partner murderers 50% of offenders in state prison for spousal abuse had killed their victims. Wives were more likely than husbands to be killed by their spouses: wives were about half of all spouses in the population in 2002, but 81% of all persons killed by their spouse.<br />
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Matthew R. Durose et al., U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 207846, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Family Violence Statistics: Including Statistics on Strangers and Acquaintances, at 31-32 (2005), available at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/fvs.pdf

Not all these "facts" are necessarily so factual.
How do we know for example how accurate and honest the (National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey 2010) actually is?
Who made this survey? What evidence do we have that it was done scientifically and in an unbiased way taken from across sample that was not overwhelmingly (or even mostly) from a grou that might have political or gender driven, reasons fo replying only in a certain way.
What were the exact questions asked and how were they worded, since answered can be skewed, depending on how the question is asked in the first place.

you can analyze the study if you like, it is published in an academic journal and available to view under scholarly google
Here is a link so you may evaluate it for yourself.
http://m.vaw.sagepub.com/content/6/2/142.short

Using data from a telephone survey of 8,000 U.S. men and 8,000 U.S. women, this study compares the prevalence and consequences of violence perpetrated against men and women by marital and opposite-sex cohabiting partners.

Very good point. You bring up many good points. You have some great ideas. You should join us more often in our discussions. Thanks for your input.

Thanks for providing these resources.

This was from the "woman against violence website" that would be the gender bias equivalent, to some survey taken of 8000 people to prove Jews were "evil" taken by Rense.com .

The information is posted on several websites, but the information itself comes from fairly bias free sources. Why would the justice dept lie? There are several sources and they come to very similar conclusions. I am sorry if it doesn't meet your standards, but at least you were free to evaluate that for yourself. If you have any evidence that contradicts these findings please provide them I am happy to review them.

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One in four women (25%) has experienced domesticviolenceinher lifetime. (The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and The National Institute of Justice, Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence, July 2000. The Commonwealth Fund, Health Concerns Across a Woman’s Lifespan: 1998 Survey of Women’s Health, 1999)<br />
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Estimates range from 960,000 incidents of violence against a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend to 3 million women who arephysically abused by their husband or boyfriend per year. (U.S. Department of Justice, Violence by Intimates: Analysisof Dataon Crimesby Current or Former Spouses, Boyfriends, and Girlfriends, March 1998. The Commonwealth Fund, Health Concerns Across a Woman’s Lifespan: 1998 Survey of Women’s Health, 1999)<br />
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Women accounted for 85% of the victims of intimate partner violence, men for approximately 15%. (Bureau of Justice <br />
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Domestic violence homicides<br />
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On average,morethanthreewomenand one manare murdered by their intimate partners in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killedby anintimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner. Intimate partner homicides accounted for 30% of the murders of women and 5% percent of the murders of men. (Bureau of Justice StatisticsCrimeDataBrief,IntimatePartnerViolence,1993-2001, February 2003. Bureau of Justice Statistics,IntimatePartnerViolencein theU.S. 1993-2004, 2006.)<br />
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Individuals who are controlling of their partners are much more likely to also be physically assaultive, and this holds equally for both maleand female perpetrators. (Felson, R., &amp; Outlaw, M. (2007). The control motive and marital violence. Violence and Victims,22(4),387-407. Graham-Kevan,N. (2007). Men’s and women’s use of intimate partner violence: Implications for treatment programs. Presented July 9, 2007 at the International Family Violence and Child Victimization Research Conference, Portsmouth, New Hampshire.)<br />
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Men and women engage in overall comparable levels of abuse and control, such as diminishing thepartner’s self-esteem, isolation and jealousy, using children and economic abuse; however, men engage in higher levels of sexual coercion and can more easily intimidate physically. (Coker, A, Davis, K., Arias, I., Desai, S., Sanderson, M., Brandt, H., &amp; Smith, P. (2002). Physical and mental health effects of intimate partner violence for men and women. American Journal of Preventative Medicine, 23 (4), 260-268. Hammock, G., &amp; O’Hearn, R. (2002). Psychological aggression in dating relationships: Predictive models for male and females. Violenceand Victims, 17, 525-540.)<br />
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I am in agreement that some male abuse goes unreported but that's also true for women.<br />
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What I do not agree with is the notion that feminists are the cause of this. <br />
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Executive Branch Women hold 69 statewide elective executive offices, representing 21.8 percent of the 317 available positions<br />
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Legislative Branch Women currently hold 1,739, or 23.5 percent, of the 7,382 state legislative seats. That includes 425 (21.6 percent) of the 1,971 senate seats and 1,313 (24.3 percent) of the 5,411 house seats.<br />
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Judicial Branch A 2010 survey found that 4,521 women were serving as state court judges, representing 26.4 percent of the total 17,108 positions. 3<br />
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Currently, 105 women serve on a state final appellate jurisdiction court (supreme court or its equivalent), up from 14 in 1980 and 51 in 1995. This represents 29 percent of the 359 total supreme court judges. Women hold the majority of seats on the state supreme court or its equivalent in five states: California, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin. Twenty-one women currently hold the office of chief justice of a state supreme court or its equivalent.<br />
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Its clear that men far outweight women in the policy and law making areas of government.

I have personal experience of counselling a male victim of domestic violence, and it was horrific. He was lucky to escape his wife's vicious assault. This is a most interesting article and certainly contradicts what feminists would have us believe about the nature of domestic violence, at least in your country. IN Australia, however, the vast majority (80% and climbing) of domestic violence related homicides are due to men murdering their female partners.

I used to volunteer at a womens shelter while going to college, abuse is always horrific, what a lot of people forget is that the damage done isn't just to the man or woman who is being abused, it effects so many people, the children being one but also the community at large. Noone would deny women have the same capability to be as vicious and cruel as men... feminists don't deny women abuse too, in fact its actively discussed, however statistically women are more often abused than men, it really doesn't matter though because anyone doing it in any amount is to much.

"...lesbian relationships are by far the most violent of all." (1) "According to the US Justice Department crime statistics, domestic abuse is virtually nonexistent for married women living with their husbands. From 1993 to 2005, the number of married women victimized by their husbands ranged from 0.9 to 3.2 per 1000.” (2)"<br />
ME. This leaves me skeptical<br />
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Yet a substantial majority of lethal and nonlethal abuse of children, as well as almost all cases of criminal neglect, are perpetrated by women, and the feminists do not display the slightest interest in fostering tougher treatment of female child abusers."<br />
ME. I agree. And the reason is often that she resents the child because it obstructs her ability to start a new sexual relationship. <br />
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"(3) ...DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A PRIMARILY FEMALE BEHAVIOR even though all of the opprobrium for it has been placed upon men."<br />
ME. This is mainly true at the bottom of society, where women are far rougher than the polite middle class can imagine.<br />
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"...the imputation of collective guilt to men for the behavior of a minority of them would be outrageous."<br />
ME. Correct. Doing so would be the very essence of prejudicial. <br />
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Patricia Pearson, author of When She Was Bad : Violent Women and the Myth of Innocence, wrote : “Women commit the majority of child homicides in the U.S., a greater share of physical child abuse, an equal rate of sibling violence and assaults on the elderly, about a quarter of child sexual abuse, an overwhelming share of the killing of newborns, and a fair preponderance of spousal assaults."<br />
ME. I agree with most of this. I was very shocked to read, starting 10 years ago, that about a quarter of child sexual abuse was perpetrated by mothers, but I now believe it. It is mainly mothers at the bottom of society, with drug and alcohol problems, who get carried away with lewd curiosity about their young sons.<br />
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"Contrary to popular belief, women are not typically acting in self-defense when abusing men."<br />
ME. Unless you define "self-defence" to include "retaliating for real or imagined slights that occurred days or weeks before.<br />
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"* Women commit most child abuse in intact biological families. When the man is removed from the family the children are at greater risk. Mother-only households are more dangerous to children than father- only households."<br />
ME. Because her children make it harder for her to find a new sex partner!<br />
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* Children are... many times more likely in households where the mother cohabits with a man other than the biological father.<br />
ME. This has a basis in evolutionary biology.<br />
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"Children raised in Single-mother Households are 8 times more likely to become killers than children raised with their biological father."<br />
ME. This is primarily ba<x>sed on boys raised by their mothers only in USA black slums.<br />
Lacking role models, they feel a need to assert their masculinity via violence.<br />
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" Women hit their male children more frequently and more severely than they hit their female children."<br />
ME. Boys are perceived as more recalcitrant in their misbehaviour, and as better able to tolerate corporal punishment. <br />
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"Women commit 55% of child murders.."<br />
ME. Child murder is mainly done by exasperated and impoverished single mothers.<br />
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"...64% of their victims are male children."<br />
ME. Women value daughters more, because a daughter is more likely to look after you in old age.<br />
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"Eighty two percent of the general population had their first experience of violence at the hands of women, usually their mother...."<br />
ME. Corporal punishment.<br />
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"...most of which are false accusations used as leverage in a divorce or custody case."<br />
ME. Many are false, most are filed to settle a score.<br />
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"...Most leaders in the women's shelter movement are fully aware of the broader scope of family violence but hold fast to the villain/victim dogma." The directors of women's shelters almost always know that they are deliberately misleading the public. Why? They must maintain their power and fund raising ba<x>se. If they lose their special "victim status" they will rapidly go out of business.<br />
ME. Fully agreed. They hold fast to the "Duluth model."<br />
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When behavior has cross-cultural verification it means that it is part of human nature rather than a result of cultural conditioning.<br />
ME. I am a bit agnostic about this assertion.<br />
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"Females are most often the perpetrators in spousal violence in all but one of the cultures that have been studied to date."<br />
ME. It is true that women are tougher than people think. I have posted elsewhere on EP the life story of New Zealand woman who led a large group of French resistance. This woman repeatedly led me into combat, and killed German sentries with her bare hands. The French were in total awe of her, freely granting that she was more ruthless than any man. The next world war will see hundreds of thousands of women fighting to the death.<br />
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"...there is something biological about violent females in family situations."<br />
ME. Part of the power of our species is that we are meat eaters and hunters. We are also warriors, capable of killing large numbers of our kind. It is unlikely that the genetic basis for this lies entirely on the Y chromosome. <br />
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"Researchers are now exploring the role of the "territorial imperative" as a factor in women's violence against men. Women see the home as their territory. Like many other species on the planet, we humans will ignore size difference when we experience conflict on our own territory. So, the scientific results that reveal the violence of American women are not unique to our culture, and do not indicate a special pathology among American women. World wide, women are more violent than men in family settings."<br />
ME. This could well be true.<br />
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"...in Canada... the rate of severe husband-to-wife violence was 4.8%..."<br />
ME. Do wives concur?<br />
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"... while severe wife-to-husband violence was 10%."<br />
ME. Do husbands concur?<br />
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"Spouse Abuse a Two-Way Street By Warren Farrell, Ph.D."<br />
ME. I am confident that feminists dismiss Farrell as a turncoat!<br />
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"The key issue, though, is who initiates this cycle of violence. Steinmetz, Strauss and Gelles found to their initial surprise that women are more likely to be the first initiators. Why? In part, the belief that men can take it - - they can therefore be a punching bag and not be expected to hit back."<br />
ME. This makes sense to me. And is consistent with what I have been told about black family life.<br />
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"...prevention approaches that address the escalation of partner violence may be needed to address the reciprocal violence"<br />
ME. Obvious to anyone who is not a dogmatic feminists.<br />
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"... in violence that was not reciprocal, women were the perpetrators in a majority of cases."<br />
ME. Surprising, but possibly true in the slums.<br />
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"Nearly twice as many women as men said they perpetrated domestic violence in the past year including kicking, biting, or punching their partner, threatening to hit or throw something at their partner, and pushing, grabbing, or shoving their partner..."<br />
ME. Women are more willing to admit to such behaviour, because police and social workers are trained to view violent women as victims, not perpetrators.<br />
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All this is consistent with what I observed years ago. The convergence between men and women often takes the form of women lowering themselves to sordid male behaviour. Violence is fun, and women often believe that men are lazy and stupid. Many times, a woman's sex partner is a deep compromise with availability rather than a matter of true passion. When violent women end up in court, they are treated more leniently.

"ME. This leaves me skeptical" See part two. The proportion of husbands who have beaten their wives twice or more is quite small.

Village life before WWI was rife with stories of fellows who beat their wives every time they got seriously drunk on Saturday night. And there are women who endured that, because in other respects she was the boss, and without his efforts on the family farm, she would be desperately poor.

When I was a teen and a young man 35-45 years ago, I would have tea and cookies with married women, who often told me with a little resigned smile that they did X or agreed to Y because their husbands insisted on it. They would then make clear that to oppose their husbands on these matters would be disrespectful of said husbands, and that disrespect of this sort was out of bounds. This talk has disappeared. The talk became that a woman is entitled to get whatever she desires, even if it means that others have to go out of their way to make it possible. You seldom even read or hear the word "selfishness" any more.

Great post. This is a battle I have been fighting since I was abused and raped by my ex-wife. This information needs to be out here as much as possible.

Thanks. See part two. There is some more very important data and analysis.

Itsmeathome, I appreciate your support. I do quibble a little in this respect : this is not opinion but fact. This is what comes up over and over again in domestic violence research as Part Two will make more clear. I am not trying to villify women, because domestic violence is abnormal behavior for both sexes. I am opposing the villification of men, which progressives like Vendetta are all in favor of because men don't tend to vote the way they like.<br />
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Vendetta. if you want to continue to post on my story, say something relevant. You haven't come close so far. You bring up race and religion which are nowhere mentioned in this story, and it's obviously in order to vent your hatreds. You are trying to trivialize a serious issue and give justification to the feminist misandry which is behind the absolutely outrageous divorce rate in the US. You may not care about that, but I do. Divorce is known to have a devastating impact upon children as well as the abandoned spouses. <br />
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"white christian male, since that group has been the most privileged for millenia." Excuse me, but if you're going to talk about millenia, all kinds of things have gone on. White people have at various times been conquered and ruled over and raided for slaves on a massive scale by Persians, Arabs, Mongols, and Crimean Tatars. The notion of "whitey" as history's eternal devil/oppressor is just more leftist bigotry which again relates to the Left rewarding and punishing according to who is and is not supporting them now.<br />
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"they have more equality and power than other groups, so that means they must cede some of that if we are to reach equality." This is ridiculous. Anybody who says women don't have equal rights in the US is smoking something strange. We already have in the US what James Meredith called "two-tiered citizenship" as crafted by progressives. Women have far more rights than men in the US. Many more men than women choose to go into politics. Are males as a group supposed to be penalized for that? I think the idea that we have some obligation to try to cause political office to have a 50:50 gender ratio is nonsense. That's elitist social engineering, not democracy. As it is, the politicians may be overwhelmingly male, but when the feminists say "Jump!", they say "How high?" while turning a complete deaf ear to men's rights groups. The idea that even more should be done in the way of taking rights away from men is outrageous, and the domestic violence matter is illustrative. Men who are subjected to serious violence by women are better off just going to the hospital and skipping calling the police. Because if they do the latter, thanks to the way the system is rigged by the feminists, the man will be the one who is hauled off to jail, and the abusive woman will go scot free.<br />
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So, Vendetta, we have heard from you. You don't think the government has gone far enough in the pursuit of misandry and you want even more anti-male bias in government policies. I don't think you're ever going to address the issues raised by this story.

oh it looks like my sarcasm has found a sore spot. It was no accident that I said white christian male, since that group has been the most privileged for millenia. For much of that time women have been 2nd class citizens, and in some cases worse, such as when they are viewed as simply property and not full persons. . I don't know if the poster is white or christian, but lets ask. Perhaps he's Hispanic or atheist, in which case he would know what it's like to be a minority and discriminated against. <br />
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White males want equality? If they do, then they must first realize that they have more equality and power than other groups, so that means they must cede some of that if we are to reach equality. That is why it's offensive for the privileged class to whine about their hardships. Boo hoo.

You're bigoted, just as bigoted as those unfortunate bigots of the past.

Wanting to bring down White Christians males because of what they long ago in the past, once had, is revenge, not equality.
Women and some (certain politically correct ones anyway.
For example Jews are a minority and Religious G-d fearing Jews are a minority within a minority and they are increasingly discriminated against) minorities are the privileged ones.
In divorce women overwhelmingly get most of the assets and usually the kids and often forced payments even when she is making more money then he is.
The US Supreme court has ruled that Black students applying for college should get in ahead of White students even when the Whites scored higher on their SAT's so there is no "white Christian privilege" certainly not anymore.
And how about the Black Panther Party getting away with lacing a one million dollar bounty on the head of Zimmermen who was walking back to his truck and was attacked by Treyvon and beaten nearly to death when he shot him in self defense.
Does anyone think that the JDL would get away with placing a bounty on a Louis Farrahan follower or on an Islamic Jihadist who had killed a Jew?
Nope women and certain minorities have far more power in todays system then White Christian males do.

Thumbs up room.

Thumbs up advantage.

Ven, I agree with you the behavior of some of the posters on this very story deny male privilege in part because they have had this privilege for so long they don't recognise that they in fact have privilege.

Talking about denying so called "male privilege" does nothing to refute the facts I posted above that rove there is no such thing as male privilege these days except perhaps in Muslim fundamentalist countries.

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No medication here, sorry. <br />
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Using hyperbole to make a point, and to expose a faulty assumption. You're not familiar with hyperbole or exaggeration, apparently. It's easy to look those words up, you know. Google is a good thing.

I know! Noone on this board understands satire or sarcasm...its so ridiculous.

The faulty assumption is the one that lies about men supposedly hating women and making it out to seem that women are getting blamed for things that are not their fault.
Such "exaggeration" in such cases is useless and nothing more then a disguised insult meant to hurt those it is directed at and has nothing to do with actually having an in of conversation that solves anything.

Thumbs up advantage.

Eliminate all women?<br />
Sounds like someone needs seriously a strong upgrade to their medication.

Don't mind me, I'm just crying crocodile tears over here. Everyone knows that if we would just eliminate all women that there wouldn't be any violence anymore.... damn troublemakers, they are.

I hope you were being sarcastic. If you were then ha ha ha. But if you weren't. Well. . . . .

Only when it is shown that women are more violent against women and children, do we get these posts claiming that it is not about gender.<br />
We never heard that as long as only men were stereotyped as being the violent ones.<br />
And when men are abused or when children are abused by women, we get derision and making fun of the situation (like in the post by Vendet making fun of "White Christians") because to liberals, hurting men (especially white men) is something to make light of and have 'fun' with.

You are absolutely right. Yeah we get attack constantly by people who don't want the truth revealed. They don't want js to bring their bad behavior to light.

I do not think it is ok to joke about abuse or violence. I do not believe it is feminism that causes people to joke about or deride men who are abused, or children who are abused by their mothers. I believe in part the reason people make light of this clearly harmful abuse is due to patriarchal stereotypes of masculinity and femininity, I also believe it is influenced heavily by society and the sexualization of violence which is also partly caused by the preversive rape culture.

I want to be clear as a feminist I think all people, men and women, should be free to report any type of abuse without fear of attack of any kind.

I don't think feminism caused the issues in this instance, I think it is patriarchy.

To claim it was patriarchy that caused these issues is like saying that if someone is caught stealing it;s because he was bullied and not because he is a dishonest person.
We have to face the fact that women are no less greedy in their lust for power and control then men are and if patriarchy did anything in this regard; It was to help keep that fact more hidden so that women traditionally expressed their darkest desires through manipulating the men in their lives (Behind every successful man is a woman, so the saying, goes.) .
No they are gaining that power directly and using it directly would have still done so, if no one had ever heard of patriarchy.
To blame it on patriarchy is nothing but a flimsy excuse.

My sympathies. Indeed nothing "decides" whether one is violent. The individual is the decider, an important thing for people to keep in mind with certain people claiming now in the US that criticism of their political side "makes" people commit violence. <br />
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Control freakhood is only part of it. Anger management is really needed. Feminists have opposed anger management for abusers because what they want is lectures on "patriarchy" instead. This approach has been tried and found to be not very helpful.<br />
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What Dutton has to say about male abusers is interesting. He says they tend not to be strong men, but to be weak men. Men who are devoid of interpersonal skills and fall into frustration that they act out in the form of violence.

Control freakhood is only part of it. Anger management is really needed. Feminists have opposed anger management for abusers because what they want is lectures on "patriarchy" instead.

Which feminists said they were against anger managment?
Please post your source

"Which feminists said they were against anger managment?" I don't know if any were stupid enough to say that outright. But they have insisted that lectures on patriarchy rather than anger management should be what treatment of male abusers revolves around. Donald G. Dutton, who has published extensively on DV for many years, is my source for that. And it entirely jibes with what I know of the character and mindset of feminists. Of course I know you're one of the ones who believes this "patriarchy is the cause of the world's ills" crap and speaks of "rape culture."

You couldn't be more incorrect, I believe inequality of sex, race, creed and socio-economic people creates the majority of ills.

I am a feminist and I recommend anger management on a regular basis to those who I believe would benefit from it whether they are male or female.

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I'm not violent, never have been. I was used and hurt by men who 'loved me'. They were control freaks and nothing I did suited them. One almost beat me to death because I failed to untangle an air hose. It is not gender that decides whether one is violent or not, but the seeking of control by means of power that decides AND defines it. POwer-seeking control freaks come in all sizes, genders, ages, nationalities, races, sexual orientations, etc etc etc. And this has been known for quite awhile. As for shelters, my experiences with them were very bad. Staff, directors, other guests generally rude if not outright mean and nobody cared.

I liked your fair and erudite comment. I hope people will learn from you.