Yes, Yes, and Yes

Atheist? Check

Liberal? Check Check

Left wing? Triple Check

 

I live in MT, where I was born and raised. These 3 traits aren't really welcome around here. When I go to work (I work at an RV dealership) I'm surrounded by right-wing radio and 3 televisions are always on Fox News. My boss (who is a terribly nice guy, btw) sends out emails and forwards which are critical of Obama's economic policies. I remember one that he sent just before the election which was basically an endorsement of McCain/Palin from the RV association. I get to hear about every mistake or flub made by Obama, people here just sit around and gossip about all of these supposedly atrocious mistakes. I see it as both amusing and sad that they never did the same gossiping about the legion of failures from the previous administration.

VendettA12 VendettA12
31-35, M
48 Responses Mar 25, 2009

I can understand where you're coming from, Vendetta. My leanings are pretty close to yours, but I'm living in what's been called "The buckle of the Bible Belt"! Talk about a tough place to voice any views!<br />
Good luck, and peace to you!

Lol, glad I could do that for you guys, bahaha! :P LMAO, that's one of the better misreadings I have heard

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what a difference an "o" can make.

"No doubt, seeing this happen day after day is nothing more than something at which to laugh. Oh damn, got to pop some more."<br />
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Damn resem....I first read that as "got to poop some more" and nearly lost my soda in the process.

Thought for sure that when I logged on today I'd have a bunch of new material from the degenerate one. Aw well. Guess I'll have to find some other reason to live.

Oh no! Not Pee Wee's Playhouse! I swore I'd never go back there...not after last time. There were so many bananas....<br />
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Lol, but good on us! Who else is going to aid Vendetta in his mission to sort through this bull **** filled world?!

They like to ignore this point because it makes them seem even more childish (if that's possible)

How dare you throw popcorn at me??!<br />
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*throws popcorn at BHS in ***-for-tat retaliation*<br />
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Lol, I'm not seeing any stunning arguements...

No doubt, seeing this happen day after day is nothing more than something at which to laugh. Oh damn, got to pop some more.<br />
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Sidenote: V, if you do cream your jeans please don't tell us :P

Oh Snap! I had no idea an eternity in an imaginary bad place was at stake. I had better rethink my position. Hmmm. Nope, still sounds like silly b.s. to me. <br><br />
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Resem and BHS and Max aren't rallying to my defense. They came here to laugh at you. Please continue! We've got more popcorn. <br><br />
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I had hoped that you would quote scripture to us. That's such a sign of intelligence haha. It gets me all excited. Be careful, I might just cream my jeans.

Oh how funny! I am so glad that you all are enjoying yourselves. Look how all your godless little lackies rally to your defense Vendetta. It almost makes me sentimental. I think I just shed a tear!<br />
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Did it ever occur to any of you morons that we are just ******* with you? Maybe it is all just a game, to amuse ourselves for lack of anything better to do. Maybe it isn't.<br />
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The point is that you all take yourselves way to seriously with your Atheist BS. So, much so that anytime a relativey decent person so much as hints at their beliefs, you're all ready to cram them right back down our throats.<br />
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If you truly could care less, none of you would be posting. None of you would be advertising. None of you would be challenging the religious folks on here, every chance you get and none of you would rally to poor Vendetta's defense, now would you?<br />
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Oh, I think you all care a great deal. Although I don't know why. Maybe you're all dating or something? I don't know. How sweet!<br />
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As for me, my true beliefs are my own and I will keep them to myself. However, I'm very well educated and I could preach to all of you and quote scriptures, whether I believe them or not. It's all part of the game.<br />
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And if it's not well, an eternity in Hell awaits you all. I love it when the stakes are high. It gives me such a rush! I hope you all choke on your popcorn, *******.

And then you can scream "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!"

Lol, you sound scared ;) I'm shaking in my boots

"....We have wondered how long it would be before "Vendetta" came around to provoke us. He's given us our opening now. Let's see how much he enjoys it. If you poke a nest of hornets enough times, eventually your going to get stung.<br />
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Even the Devil believes in God. Demon's tremble in fear at his name. You should be more careful when choosing your targets "Vendetta"...<br />
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Listen carefully: (in between bites of muddy popcorn)...<br />
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This is the sound of me trembling before "TheWatchers"<br />
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haha

Oh, it should just be a few more minutes until one of the fundies decides that they'll try to "save" us evildoers and right just another comment telling us that we're wrong, immoral, and all that other good stuff, haha!

Lol, I'm thinking that the latter sounds like a better use of your time

Boy, I go to a basketball tournament for the weekend and come back to all of this big talk by this watchers guy and this degenerate dude. <br />
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Maybe this week I'll take some time to respond to these highly intellectual posts and apparent challenges to me. Then again, I might get distracted by something more productive such as watching the paint in our future daughter's nursery dry.

wow watchers, I just adore how you admit that religions of different types will kill each other over their differences, then condemn an atheist as being even more wrong than that.<br />
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I can't speak for Vendetta, but most of the times I see him argue over beliefs over religion or other personal beliefs, I don't think he's ever said "that bastard christian" or such inflaming remarks. In fact, even in the theistic and such that he disagrees with, I typically see him come in, offer his opinion and reasons thereof, continue discussing if necessary or if welcomed, and that's it. <br />
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If utilizing such sciences is against god's will, then why doesn't he stop us then? Who are you to deem to us his will? Isn't that a might bit over-zealous of you to represent a being that is constantly deemed beyond our understanding whenever we ask about the misdirected logic and rationality behind faith?

Oh, well the devil and demons are proven facts so...you've convinced me. How is any of that even an argument? You hardly said anything other than insults aimed at us (how very christian of you). As for your first question, I justify telling someone that the so-called "center of their universe" is a fantasy because it is one. All that belief does is make people like you come at us and berate us for not believing, generally unprovoked. <br />
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To compare Vendetta to a white supremacist is both ignorant and intolerant. Before you try to "fix" us, maybe you should keep yourself from being such an ignorant twit.

To deny the existence of a Creator is as offensive to any spiritual person, as forcing a religious belief upon an Atheist. It is more offensive in fact. How do you justify telling someone that the center of their universe is a fantasy, when they believe in Gods existence, with every fiber of their being?<br />
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If the Protestant, the Christian, and the Muslim, will kill each other over the differences in their own beliefs. How much more so, will they all work to vanquish the ideas of the godless? The Atheist is the enemy of all spiritual people.<br />
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Religion is not all about love, peace, and acceptance. It is also about the way God expects his creation to live their lives. There are many things He clearly does not want us to be doing and those who live outside those guidelines are dealt with harshly. Many "liberal" thoughts ideas and lifestyles are classified as "sin" to believers. These sins are contrary to everything God expects from us. <br />
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Intellectual "enlightenment", science, and advances in technology do not justify breaking His rules. Sure, people argue over the details of religion but there are some basic principles upon which they all agree.<br />
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This particular idiot, who calls himself "VendattA12" is waging a one man campaign against any spiritual person he finds on EP.<br />
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His propaganda is no different to me the the bull the white supremacists publish on the web, or the literature the skinheads pass out in schools, or the doctrine of hate promoted by the Taliban. We don't appreciate it when the Jehovah's witnesses come knocking uninvited at our door, and We don't appreciate it when some Atheist bastard mistakes us for a Christian and launches an assault against us.<br />
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We have been watching him spit out his garbage for some time and have never said a word. Everyone has a right to there own opinion right? We are supposed to be PC and respectful of others and that was just fine.<br />
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We have wondered how long it would be before "Vendetta" came around to provoke us. He's given us our opening now. Let's see how much he enjoys it. If you poke a nest of hornets enough times, eventually your going to get stung.<br />
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Even the Devil believes in God. Demon's tremble in fear at his name. You should be more careful when choosing your targets "Vendetta".

Well said.

I agree with "tubby". Isn't the point of a man's life adventure and discovery?

I think, actually, if you wanna get right down to it, degenerate's opinion is WRONG...<br />
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Nothing can have all the answers, but at least science searches for them.

We think this looks like an inquisition.

Sure everyone does have a right to their own opinion. His just happens to be wrong. There is nothing more offensive or self-serving than someone who denies the existence of a higher power, and believes science (of all things), has all of the answers.<br />
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Follow his tracks and see for yourself. This is someone who enjoys attacking other peoples beliefs and degrading them. Let's see how he responds when others do it to him. Let's see him defend his convictions.

Okay, I've calmed down. I do, however, have a question. DegenerateVirus, you're number one experience is "I believe everyone has a right to their opinion". How on earth can you say that after your little schpeal?

You know, people like this are constantly bitching and moaning that we're the ones who are stirring up trouble and "oppressing" their beliefs, but it is damn near always them who starts this. Whether it's in the religion rooms or groups similar to this, there is always some ignorant **** who interjects into these stories simply to insult us and state their little opinions as if what they say and think actually do anything to help the world. Ugh...

Are you ******* kidding me? Are you seriously just coming in here to stir up trouble? Just go back to your own little area where you can play with your blocks and colouring books.

It's thanks to people like you, with no faith, that our country is such a disaster. Your minority opinions forcing there way into our government, are an outrage.<br />
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Let's stop prayer in schools, let's take God off our currency and official documents. You seek to ruin us, when God is needed the most. Instead of turning to Him, you drive Him away and then grumble about the state of affairs We are in.<br />
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You make us sick in the stomach. We have more respect for the bickering religions of the world, than for those who claim there is no creator at all.<br />
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To think that science and man, will ever have all the answers is a joke. Even the theory of "Intelligent Design", promotes creation to a higher intelligence.

"I live in MT, where I was born and raised. These 3 traits aren't really welcome around here."<br />
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Three strikes and you're out!<br />
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We get it now. You are nothing more than a sad, lonely, angry, little man, with a minority opinion, lost in the wilderness of MT.<br />
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Since no respectable person will listen to your garbage in person; You have to get your kicks here. Well guess what, your opinions aren't exactly welcome here either. Since they are tainted with a smug attitude and disrespect.<br />
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We seriously hope you, or your loved ones, never truly need the grace of God, to save you from the terrible world. We are afraid your precious science will let you down.<br />
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We hope your faith in yourself and in mankind, is enough to see you through, the hard times. We hope the day never comes when you fall on your knees and beg a higher power for help. It won't come to those who turn their back on Him.

Heh, I also live in one of the most red states in the nation, so I can relate. Thankfully, though, I'm a college student and there are more liberals around campus. No one sends me those stupid e-mails, though, probably because they know I'll send them something back, and they most likely don't want to see it. However, deciding I didn't believe in God in 2nd grade wasn't the best move I made in elementary school. The gossip about it not only left the playground, but it got back to my friend's parents.

Haha! I have a friend that sends me that stuff to everyone on his list. I politely hit "reply to all" and bombard them with the facts! You'd think he would take me off his list! LOL

I like the one about giving all 40 million people over 50 years of age a million dollars each.<br />
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Yea right, I got it from 5 different people. Not one of them even spent a moments time to think about it being 40 trillion dollars before they forwarded it.

It's discouraging, to say the least. The other day I met a pretty cool guy that I meet to play basketball with. He sent me a text message on my phone which said that I-90 or some other highway was going to be shut down as the government would be hauling materials to add Obama's face to Mount Rushmore. I don't even know how to respond to such ignorant mockery.

While I can't claim to be any of those three I can't claim to be the opposite either. Yet I work in a very rural, conservative, republican area.<br />
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I must see at least 3-4 idiot email forwards each day. Most of them at a minimum are misleading even when the get the facts and math correct.<br />
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I usually just hold my tongue.

Holy Shite! I shudder to think! :-O

pffft. If only McCain and Palin were in charge, everything would be just grrrreeat! <br />
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One of my son's 1st grade friends was over playing around election time. She asked who I was voting for. I told her I was voting for Obama. The next day she came over and said, "I told my Dad you were voting for Obama. He says you are an idiot." <br />
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Right-wingers are soooooooo sure of their views, they believe it is okay to speak them anytime and anywhere and to anyone.

I think Zinco is on to something! LOL it would beat that pathetic "nonpartisan, unbiased" http://www.thebarackobamawatch.com/<br />
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I feel your pain, V. We all know how it is. The reason there are more of us "liberals" online is we seek out the truth and read real news online, we're not brainwashed idiots who listen to Rush Limpbaugh and Fox News.

well, you could pretend it's a game and you are an Obama spy....start an anonymous blog online etc about all their pathetic attempts....you seem very informed and intelligent, it could be kinda fun :-)

I don't know that I would endanger my job by voicing my unpopular opinions on politics and religion, but I do know that it would make my work environment exponentially worse.

Btw, is it really true that your job mite b in danger because of your political views? isn't there a law against that?

I think u have to progress a little yourself b4 u can claim to be a regressive, so I'd have to say no VendettA :-)

If a person opposes "progressives" does that make them "regressive?"

I find it interesting how the internet seems full of liberals where as in other aspects of my life they aren't present. My husband was convinced that the election would be a landslide because all the hoopla on the internet was obviously for Obama, even though the real world we interact with wasn't. Then I remembered that our families which are conservative also call us in order to get their solitaire re-minimized. I was pleasantly surprised when he won.

Very true, lol. Congratulations on the baby by the way :)

Unfortunately, in this economy, with a baby on the way, I don't have the luxury of further endangering my job.

Lol, that's why I get most of my news from articles in the paper and on the internet nowadays. The bias I see on tv (in either direction) gets on my nerves.<br />
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Idea: If you don't care about your job you should bombard your coworkers with Liberal emails, lol.