God Is Outside Of Time And SpaceThis is a common counter-argument offered by the religious whenever God’s actions or state present problems of their own. For example, a logical ob
As it is impossible to traverse an infinity there is no way that God couldn’t have always existed and yet somehow arrived at the time when he chose to create the universe. I was recently presented with the “God is outside time and space” defense in a similar time related ob
God being “outside time and space” presents problems of its own though. While there are potential problems with being non-spatial I don’t see them as being insurmountable (I encourage anyone who does see a serious problem with this to describe it) but being non-temporal causes an immediate and insurmountable problem.
If you are existent in a non-temporal state you must necessarily be static. Any change in state automatically invokes time. There would be a before state and an after state. Before and after of course are temporal terms. Time can be viewed as simply (change or an occurrence of change). This has serious implications for God. He would be entirely static and incapable of change. It would be exactly as though someone had pressed the pause button on God and so it would remain forever (ok it wouldn’t “remain” “forever” it would just be) :)
There are many instances in the bible that show God as being not only temporal but also not omniscient. In one instance, God is warming up his smiting arm but Moses talks him out of it. God’s actions were not predetermined. He didn’t know in advance that he wasn’t going to smite, it was Moses who convinced him not to. This clearly displays that God did not know the future. He is not omniscient and also just as much a subject of time (he changed his mind over time) as anyone else.
Theists of course wear themselves out trying to find loopholes to squirm through and reason why the obvious implications aren’t so or that the completely straightforward narrative is not as it appears. When you can invent any justification you want without evidence for it, it is not possible to be shown to be wrong. You can always just tack on another property onto God. Nowhere in the bible is God described as “outside of space and time”. It is entirely an invention of theistic apologists. That is why this argument and all other arguments will fall on deaf ears. Were this ob