Glenn Beck Calls All Americans to Action (as Long As You Are a Theist).

From Atheist nexus

Our buddy Glenn Beck is at it again.

In an attempt to start another “Boston Tea Party,” he is calling those who love America to action. He is asking that everyone join a local MeetUp group and meet together on Friday March 13th at 5pm ET to watch his program on the Fox News Channel.

He’s calling on ALL, Republicans and Democrats.

He wants to return to “We The People.”

He wants to stop America from becoming a socialist country.

If you, my fellow nontheist, agree and want to “restore” your country, don’t bother. Atheists are not welcome.

Below are Beck’s Nine Principles he wants you to agree on:

1. America is good.

2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.

3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.

4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.

5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.

6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.

7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.

9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.

And here are his 12 Values:
• Honesty
• Reverence
• Hope
• Thrift
• Humility
• Charity
• Sincerity
• Moderation
• Hard Work
• Courage
• Personal Responsibility
• Friendship

Beck goes on to say that you have to agree with at least 7 of the principles to participate. But why is number 2 even on the list? What does believing in a god(s) have to do with anything? Can atheists not be concerned citizens? Are we not a part of "We The People?"

JojoWazoo JojoWazoo
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18 Responses Mar 1, 2009

Caution: America may contain good. Funny.

Work shall set you free, only if you can find a job........<br />
Great post Stevester!

interesting that this clown is calling for vox populi and I last looked USA was a representative democracy. His clarion call is to engage the righteous masses behind a flag of nationalism whilst extolling the virtues of the race that is american. Work hard and be repaid, believe in ur nation and its superiority, family, fatherhood and the replacement of weak government with the voice of the people. No longer shall we be ground down by the internal forces of socialism and our foreign enemies who seek to undermine our way of life.<br />
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Sounds familiar, Arbeit Macht Frie might be a good slogan for this guy.

"The Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion."<br />
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Powerful quote...<br />
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I realise that this line is used in the whole separation of state & church, but it has several of contexts, some good, some bad.<br />
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The Good - Part of it is ALL religion have a right to practise - you can't avoid them or deny rights to other religions.<br />
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"not freedom from religion" - You will encounter other religions, get over it.<br />
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The Bad – People are arguing that separation of church & state is unobtainable – it can’t happen. Further, many state it shouldn’t happen, that there’s no constitutional precedent for it.<br />
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This website has a rather nicely put way of going over it;<br />
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http://atheism.about.com/od/churchstate/a/FreedomFrom.htm<br />
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“Freedom from religion is thus not a social right to never encounter religion in public spaces. Freedom from religion has two relevant aspects: personal and political. On the personal level, a right to be free from religion means that a person has the freedom not to belong to any religion or religious organization. The right to be religious and to join religious organizations would meaningless if there did not exist a parallel right not to join any at all. Religious liberty must simultaneously protect both the right to be religious and the right not to be religious at all — it cannot protect a right to be religious, just so long as you pick some religion.<br />
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When it comes to politics, the freedom from religion means being "free from" any government imposition of religion. Freedom from religion does not mean being free from seeing churches, but it does mean being free from churches getting governing financing; it doesn't mean being free from encountering people handing out religious tracts on a street corner, but it does mean being free from government-sponsored religious tracts; it doesn't mean being free from hearing religious discussions at work, but it does mean being free from religion being a condition of employment, hiring, firing, or one's status in the political community.<br />
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Freedom from religion isn't a demand that religious beliefs never be expressed, but rather that they not be endorsed by the government; it's not a demand that religious believers never voice an opinion, but rather that they not have a privileged status in public debates; it's not a demand that religious values never have any public impact, but rather that no laws be based on religious doctrines without the existence of a secular purpose and basis.<br />
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The claim that the Constitution only protects "freedom of religion" and not "freedom from religion" thus misses an important point. Religious liberty, if it is to mean anything, cannot merely mean that the state won't use the police to stop or harass adherents of certain religious ideas. It must also mean that the state won't use more subtle powers, like those of the pocketbook and the bully pulpit, to favor some religions over others, to endorse certain religious doctrines rather than others, or to take sides in theological disputes.”

From Elizabeth Dole's speech at the 2004 Republican convention.<br />
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"The Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion."<br />
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Never much cared for what that line "might" be taken to imply.

He's an idiot. He fits in perfectly at Fox News, it's just that Atheists being intentionally left off of things in this country is unacceptable and we need to start holding them accountable on it!<br />
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Madamanja, that was a great take on the whole thing. I think we can pretty much agree with we all possess the qualities of the values he requires everyone to have, we even have them without fear of reprisal from some invisible cloud being. I wouldn't go to any of these events either. It's just the principal of exclusion to a certain group of people based on their beliefs.<br />
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Innervoices, you're right about that. For those folks, it's all about fame and fortune, be damned everyone else!

It seems to me that this guy dosent even care about the values and belifes of other people. He just says you need all of this because thats what he wants.

"He doesn't seem to add up correctly" <br />
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HAHAHA, that's a perfect summary of Beck if I ever saw one. <br />
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Classic. Thank you :)

7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.<br />
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Dude just doesn't want to pay tax then? Why doesn't he just say "poor people suck, let them suffer so I don't gotta pay"<br />
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I realise this somewhat contradicts his whole;<br />
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"3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday." <br />
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(by not being forthright about what I mean, obviously)<br />
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but does back up;<br />
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"6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results." <br />
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(I did OK, and I accept that others have it bad, however, it's their problem, stop bugging me).<br />
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2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.<br />
4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority.<br />
(Which is the ultimate then - God or your family? Make up your mind! <br />
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Also, it's not just atheist who aren't invited - single parents also need not apply. You're probably too poor to join anyway!)<br />
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"It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me. Government cannot force me." <br />
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Wow. I think the term "Yikes!" covers it nicely....Dude comes across less pro-democracy / anti-socialism & more just plain Anarchist to me.<br />
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Lastly;<br />
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1. America is good<br />
(what does that even mean? Full of undefined righteousness good? Girl scout good? Chocolate-ty goodness good? Caution, may contain good? Good at something? This statement is too undefined to be a point)<br />
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The only one I can semi-agree with is; <br />
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5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it. <br />
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And I ob<x>ject to the term "pay." Just how obsessed is this dude with money? If you break the law you must meet/accept the penalty would also apply for crime where money isn't the issue.<br />
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I like a lot of his "values" - I just don't get how he's applying them to his principles.... He doesn't seem to add up correctly.

You don't have to believe in "God" either but you do. Read some of our other collective subjects and you will see that we all know how ****** up our country is after the past 8 years of Bush and the neo cons trickle down economics. Not to mention our country's highest deficit from borrow and spend policy, A war for oil based on lies in Iraq, Capitalist socialism and raping our treasury with absolutely no oversight..<br />
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Glen Beck wants everyone who attends to : <br />
2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life. That was one of the principles listed, not the values! (which I possess all of, BTW) Can you NOT READ? That is the premise of this thread.<br />
Have a nice day.............. Poof!

Umm you dont have to agree on ALL of his values, just some of them, and he states that several times. I am not religious but I agree with many of those values and sent my picture to join the "We Surround Them" movement. You dont have to believe in God to see that we have lost control of our government to a point that the very people we elect are calling us Americans idiots and that we dont care. Wake up.

You're right about that M&M!

Yeah and your spiderman and He man jammies. :-)

Well, 16-17 years ago, I was more interested in Bugs Bunny and Hulk Hogan.

DrCynic, you totally missed my point. I wouldn't participate in that either. Goodness knows I have enough to keep me busy every day, it's just the mindset toward Atheists. Remember when GHWB said we shouldn't even be American Citizens? This just expands on that 16 years later, but then again, that's nearly all of your lifetime but not mine........ It's sad and it's pathetic how we are viewed like we're subhuman or something and we really are so altruistic without having to have a reason to be!

I think its stupid how people think someone is not part of society just because they dont belive in god. i mean its not like we are doing anything wrong.

Apparently in the eyes of Glenn Beck, we are not members of an American society for not being bound by religious "laws and practices". It's not like we vote or try and make our country a better place, no no no, that would be crazy. <br />
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I don't get angry very easily, but that does not exactly make me happy. It is close-minded thinking like this that truly limits our participation in society or even minor events in our country. Just another thing that we are doing wrong as a society and a race.

Honestly, there are so many more things on here I disagree with besides being an athiest, there's no way I'd participate, and as for his 12 values, I would say I have about four of them.