I Believed In Santa Until I Was 11 But The Idea Of God Being Real Never Occured To Me

A god of any kind (although i was only really taught christianity/catholicism in any depth) always seemed like a very alien concept to me. When i was younger I learned the stories of Jesus etc. like i learned fairytales and other fictional stories and religion was just this thing some people believed in that (in my mind) clearly wasn't true. I didn't think less of these believers, i didn't think much about them actually - i managed to stay pretty passive on the subject despite attending 1C of E and 2 Catholic schools. As i got older i realised that some religious people were a bit weird (particularly my R.E teacher lol) and began to think that religion was more than just this thing - it was a bad thing. It caused wars and intolerence and blind obedience by some (although not so much in UK). Nowadays i just think each to their own, as long as they don't try and impose it on others (which, unfortunatley some do). I'm a very tolerant person (well, i like to think so) and don't really care about peoples religious beliefs, more concerned about their personality. Of course for some religion is a big part of their personality and i don't mind that either as long as they don't try to convert me (which, luckily, no one has - except the local god squad but i just politely tell them 'no thanks'). I once knew a vegeterian who kept trying to talk me out of eating meat - that was annoying - but completely unrelated lol.

I guess i'm quite lucky 'cus i've grown up in a fairly unreligious area (there's plenty of churches and religious people they're just not in your face about it) and my family never pushed religion - iim not sure if my mum believes 'cus we never really spoke about god etc. My dad's Catholic (although not a very good one) and he bugged me into getting christened when i was 8, i didn't really want to but it shut him up and i got a free party :-) I was never confirmed and my dad was happy so ....win,win.

Yeah, so overall i've had it pretty easy and not had much to get wound up about. I do howether, think that church, state and particularly education should be seperate. Faith schools are a bad idea, full stop. I got lucky 'cus mine were pretty unreligious faith schools that accepted other faiths too (particularly my secondary, which was about as Catholic as an unmarried, pregnant lesbian) but some faith schools put the faith before an open and inclusive education. Knowledge is power and no church/religous group should have that kind of power over youth

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7 Responses Mar 11, 2010

Kriss99<br />
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I don't think you're crazy or mind, each to their own.<br />
As for jesus and santa being real - well, i'm not sure what to say about that. There probably is some documentation somewhere, i'm not too clued up on either subject to be honest, but if they were real people that doesn't mean the myths about them are true. Maybe jesus was real, just some carpenter who had 12 mates that follewed him around. Maybe St.Nick did give kids christmas prezzies back in the day, but i don't think he flies around the world once a year with a list of who's naughty and nice.<br />
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On the other hand, i could be wrong (though i'm pretty confident in my beliefs - as are you, i'm sure)<br />
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I think i'll just risk it and wait until i kick the bucket to find out, not something i fancy dwelling on to be honest...since it's never been a big deal for me.

I am not going to lie to you...Santa and Jesus are both real people. Both are well documented in the historical records with ample evidence to prove their existence. In Jesus's case there are even multiple accounts of his life told by different authors and more importantly referenced in multiple additional documents.<br />
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Lee Strobel who was a reporter for the Chicago Tribune was an athiest who went in search of proof that it is all a big scam. You can read his account in a book called 'The Case for Christ'. You could even watch the movie, it's on Hulu and it is free. <br />
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Let me pause and say, I respect your right to not believe in any God. <br />
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However, I take the Bible seriously and I am a Christian...and a M -> F Transexual lesbian.<br />
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I would hate to think how crazy you must think I am....so I mention this as a defense of myself and so I hope you don't mind.

I laughed ^ <br />
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I figured it out very young but I can remember my sister being DEVASTATED when mom told her. I was about four years old or so. She told I told her I wanted her to buy me gifts and my grandparents. Meh.

Well, make sure you thank her for "making" you not believe in god. And telling kids that Santa is real is silly, and it deprives of the fun of getting calls from their teachers when they go around telling all the other kids that Santa isn't real.

Hahaha your mum sounds funny, though i doubt that's her intention... :-)<br />
I'm not sure what'll tell my kids about santa (when i have them that is)<br />
I know it's part of the magic for them but then you've got to decide when you tell them the truth, or wait 'till they figure it out - plus, i'm not sure i like the idea of some fat guy taking credit for all the prezzies i bought (selfish me) Lol

My VERY religious mother has tried numerous times to tell me not to tell my own children that Santa is real. She said she wishes that she would have never told my sister or myself (really this is leaning towards myself) that Santa exists because he doesn't; therefore, "making" us not believe that God exists. <br />
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/eyeroll

Coincidentally, I'm reading Hogfather by Terry Pratchett (a version of Santa). At one point, having been asked if the Hogfather really exists, the governess of a couple of kids replies:-<br />
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"Look at it this way then," she said, and took a deep mental breath. Wherever people are obtuse and absurd ... and wherever they have, by even the most generous standards, the attention span of a small chicken in a hurricane and the investigative ability of a one-legged cockroach ... and wherever people are inanely credulous, pathetically attached to the certainties of the nursery and, in general, have as much grasp of the realities of the physical universe as an oyster has of mountaineering ... yes, Twyla: there IS a Hogfather."<br />
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Which is an excellent observation of the atheist viewpoint, methinks.<br />
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On the same note, I just discovered this little gem:-<br />
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http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article4087520.ece<br />
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Headlined as "Alzheimer’s leads atheist Terry Pratchett to appreciate God" it really isn't what TP actually said. The article may have been written by a chicken in a hurricane.