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Old Souls

First of all, if you really want to learn more about old souls, go to I have always sensed I was different from others and I hope to find other old souls who I can relate to. Here are some traits and information about old souls if you think you might be one:

- Old souls have largley given up on the world. It doesnt seem worth the touble to spend a lot of energy on things that do not last. For this reason, old souls dont make great contributions to society.  They are quieter than younger people and live a more relaxed lifestyle. They are more subdued in their manner of expression. Old souls are in the process of withdrawing from the physical plane. Their motivation is of spiritual purity. They lead simple lives, they do not want to overcomplicate it with intense relationships and severe challenges. They are paying off final karma, they do not want to incur anymore.

-Old souls are usually very competent, but there is a tiredness about them which prevents them from making a lot of effort. Others, however,  see this as laziness. They are mellow, rarely enthusiastic and the excitement of youth is mostly gone. They often become teachers to pass the knowlege and wisdom on, but only to a limited number of students.

- There is little desire to release their understanding to the world in general, for this reason they are quieter.  As it is with many young people and old people, the younger are out doing their thing and do not have time to listen to the old folks anyway. When they do make themselves noticed, they are often perceived as "far out" or weird" for this reason they rarely make themselves noticed. They do not even try to communicate. Old souls usually have problems with self esteem because their perceptions and values are not shared with the rest of society. Like a person in the last decades of life, old souls are "winding down" "in retirement" "preparing for death" so to speak.

- Very late level old souls, who are near their last incarnations on Earth, are so world weary that they are ready to just lay down and die. It is not uncommon for these types of old souls to become bums or homeless.

- Old souls are often loners. They are a rare breed, comprising about eleven percent of the population. They have very little attachment to coworkers, neighbors, encounters of casual nature, even their sense of connection with blood relatives is not very strong.  They dont like heavy entanglments with other people. When they do get involved, its because of a strong spiritual bond. It is difficult for old souls to develop relationships with people they have not had numerous past lives with. Many times old souls seek companionships through astrology or psychic endeavors. When old souls "party" they usually just sit around and talk. In dating situations, they don't need to go anywhere (to a movie) or do anything (play a game) as a means of developing social intimacy. If the basis of psychological intimacy is not quickly apparent to the old soul, he will not put himself through much trouble to develop it.

-Sexis not highly prized by the Old soul. He is usually competent therein, but his lack of interest for it, and the lack of passion in it, can be disconcerting to younger souls who still prize sex highly. Old souls are often hedonistic and sensual, however, and can have a bawdy sense of humor. Old souls are often androgynous (having balanced masculine and feminine characteristics), and occasionally bisexuality is a part of their lifestyle. Gender identification is often weak in this Age because of subconscious contact with the whole psyche, which includes both masculine and feminine characteristics. What the Old soul seeks in romantic relationships is a "soul mate" — someone to whom he relates on a soul level. This might be someone else with whom he has spent many lifetimes, or another soul in his own Entity. The drive for this is so strong that it could be described as a compulsion.

- In order to even out your past life choices, as an Old Soul you are often in the body of the sex you least prefer. But having had both male and female bodies so many times before, you do begin to blend the different energies and may not be greatly identified with being either male or female. It becomes hard to work up a lather about someone's homosexuality or "lack of masculinity" or "femininity".

- Old souls are individualistic, believing people should do whatever they want as long as it doesnt hurt anyone else. Their motto is "You do what you want, I'll do what I want." They rarely campaign for anything, they don't want to change the world, they just want to to let it be. They have a "Live and let live" attitude. Old souls are calmer, more peaceful and centered. This can also make them appear passive or weak to other soul ages.

- They do not have a strong sense of attachment to the world, they want to purify themselves of materialistic attachments

- Most old souls often take a job which does not overly tax or challenge them.  To them, life seems heavy and boring, life's a drag,  a game which they no longer want to play. They feel like they've seen it all, "what else is there to live for?" The material pursuits of young souls seems futile to them and even the mature souls excitement about newfound truths seems passe to old souls. An old soul wants to graduate from the physical plane and go onto newer, higher planes. Old souls are subject to psychological depression. All soul ages can be to some extenst, but the old souls especially.

- Most old souls come around to the understanding of reincarnation at some point in their lives.

- Old souls are detached and aloof, even uninvolved. Younger souls do not understand this, although they may admire the fact that an Old soul can remain so cool in situations that younger souls find upsetting. To some it may seem that Old souls do not care. It is more accurate to say that they are nonattached. They do not make much investment in what is going on around them, and do not have strong expectations for any particular outcome. Whatever will be will be, so why fight reality? What little they can not follow, they simply avoid. They do not seek to change things, unlike mature souls who want to change the world.

- Old souls inherently perceive the broader perspective. They see that the world rolls on, day after day, year after year, millennium after millennium, with the same basic stories being told time after time with minor variations. Old souls know the big lesson of the whole Maturation cycle, and that is nonjudgmental acceptance of anything and everything. What little they cannot abide, Old souls simply avoid. Rarely do they seek to change things.

- The depth of wisdom of an old soul is seen in their eyes. They have a direct, penetrating stare- it looks right through you, seeming to know. Profound issues are their concern, not the trivial. They want to get right to the heart of the matter and skip all the superficialities.

-Old souls tend to be tolerant and inclusive, and at least try to be open to other ways of looking at things. However, they may become upset by people whose points of view are rigid and exclusive. So if they are trying to respect different points of view, they may not respect people whose points of view do not respect other points of view. Old souls are still learning tolerance. They can be a little arrogant about the fact that they would never be so openly intolerant.

-Old souls "go with the flow", and they "follow the path of least resistance". Younger souls regard this as sheer laziness — lack of drive and willpower. This trait has its advantages and disadvantages. The good thing is that they are graceful and gracious when it comes to dealing with other people. The disadvantage is that they may lack the initiative to do what could be done. They often come up with great and innovative ideas because of their advanced and efficient perceptions, but they lack the energy to bring them to completion.

- Old Souls are very capable of agape or unconditional love, and many consciously work on not ever judging other people. For this very reason, some Old Souls appear to be annoyingly remote. This is usually an essence who has previously handled many emotional issues and comes to the planet intent on examining intellectual, philosophical and spiritual issues, period.

-As with senior citizens, just because the Old soul is "retired" does not mean he is worthless and powerless. Indeed, an Old soul can bring considerable wisdom and competence to bear in fulfilling a significant life task.

- Because of their advanced perceptions, Old souls are inherently ethical in behavior, feeling, and thought. They do not have to be taught right and wrong by parents or society. There is some socializing to be done when they are children of course, but the programming for decency, honesty, and integrity is inborn. It is as if they are grown-up even when they are children. They always feel like they are older than their chronological age.

- They rarely perceive actions as being truly evil. Rather, they regard things that cause suffering as foolish and primitive.

- Old souls try to maintain neutrality in time of war. It is part of their nonattachment

- Old souls are casual and easygoing about everything. Nothing is a big deal to them. Almost never are they outrageous or outlandish. They are rarely concerned with outward appearances — external image or formal trappings. In extreme cases they can even appear sloppy in clothes or habitat. Rarely are they overly concerned with what other people think.

-Old souls pursue education with the same casual attitude as they do everything else in life. Grades are of very little value to them. The learning itself isn't all that important unless it furthers a specific life task. Old souls tend to cut out the material pursuits that occupy so much of the time and energy of younger souls, and concentrate what little energy they have on spiritual integrity. By this is meant the need to understand the truth, and the reason for things. Old souls rarely participate in organized religion. They are often drawn rather to metaphysics, mysticism, philosophy, and the occult in their quest for understanding. It is difficult for them to synthesize their physical with their spiritual selves. They often seek unorthodox and holistic medicine rather than going to the medical establishment.

- A fancy house or car, or impressive clothes and jewelry aren't often too high on an Old Soul's real priority list. Neither is a nine-to-five job. Plain laziness on the physical plane sometimes creates difficulty paying the bills, but the material game just isn't what it used to be. This is especially true after the soul has had many materially succesful lifetimes. They have already completed the lessons to be gained from having riches. However, Old Souls do have one advantage with the material world: as they begin to seek, understand and use the laws of the physical universe, goals can be attained with less effort. Thus, there is an outer, as well as an inner draw to understand the universal laws distilled in astrology, metaphysics, tarot and other ancient teachings.

- Old souls are late bloomers, they usually do not grow into their full soul perceptivity until about age 35 or so.

 - In some ways, it can be said that Old souls are in the most difficult Age. In the first place, they do not fit in with the culture so they are often thought bizarre. They are definitely out of the mainstream of society and care little for its formal institutions. In the second place, they are often too world-weary to do what needs to be done to solve their own problems, let along anyone else's. Since they tend to follow the path of least resistance, unless they feel internal and external forces pushing them, they don't go anywhere or do anything. No matter how much they might need it for building character, they will only tolerate just a certain amount of stress in any given situation. Then they will get depressed and just chuck it all and move on.

- Each soul age is trying to experience as much as possible within that particular level of perceptivity. It's absolutely to the point for an Infant Soul to be fearfully concerned about basic survival and for a Baby Soul to be requesting law and order. A Young Soul is appropriate when striving for great material wealth, power and acclaim, and a Mature Soul when beginning to feel intensely emotional and ask those deeper questions. It's appropriate for an Old Soul to not meet societal norms, to look and act mildly eccentric and to be teaching others, even when his own personal or material life isn't together.

- To expect your Old Soul child to make a successful climb up a corporate ladder is unrealistic. Likewise, it's in error to count upon an aggressive Young Soul attorney turning her attention towards saving the environment, or to believe a Mature Soul embroiled in a major emotional drama would be able to calm down because you showed him the "big picture".

- Younger souls are not less intelligent, less appropriate or wrong. Their lessons are about survival, structure, ambition and success, while your lessons are about emotional and universal connections. Younger souls are a natural part of that whole you know is all connected, right? So, if you're indulging yourself by feeling superior, aim for mild tolerance as a way to begin clearing up that attitude, which ultimately is a painful, separatist one to carry around.

- Some musicians typifying this Old Soul need to teach are Joan Baez, John Lennon and Yoko Ono, Sting, Judy Collins, Jerry Garcia, Bob Marley and children's hero and folksinger, Raffi. Paul Winter, George Winston, Kitaro and a burgeoning band of Old Soul, New Age musicians are intent on moving us into gorgeous inner spaces with their music.

- Mark Twain, John Muir, and Albert Einstein were all Old Souls with a mission, as was Dr. Edward Bach. John Robbins is busy changing the way America looks at food and food production. Film director John Boorman (Emerald Forest, Hope and Glory), author Alice Walker (The Color Purple), goddess researcher Jean Shinoda Bolen, Shirley MacLaine, Robert Redford and Phil Donahue are some pretty active Old Souls currently doing work on our culture. Directly on the spiritual front we find Don Juan Matus, Nostradamus, Gurdjieff, Guru Mayi, Carl Jung, Werner Erhard, Rajneesh, Ram Dass, Matthew Fox, the Dalai Lama, Sun Bear, Swamis Satchidananda and Muktananda and transpersonal psychologists, Christina and Stanislav Grof. Jesse Jackson, Jerry Brown, Abraham Lincoln, Anwar Sadat, Iceland's president, Vigdis Finnbogadottir, and Brazil's Chico Mendes are six very affecting Old Souls who put their energy into the political arena. You'll notice these individuals teach from their being or essence in a unique fashion.


Scorpiogirl112 Scorpiogirl112 19-21, F 85 Responses Oct 24, 2007

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I've posted here before but deleted it as I changed my mind about sharing.
Being experienced on this plane is something that would work best without a label. How can things that transcend be boxed in and limited so? A label doesn't define something. That "something" defines itself by being as it is. But alas, our current language is not designed to explain the things that transcend. Note the use of "current".

Doing is what matters. Having the tools available to move forward, is what matters. Guidance is what matters. Perhaps knowing one's soul age could act as a catalyst for ones growth (by being aware and connecting with one's true core) but will it be the reason for change? Will it be the experience you need, the action, the guidance? Perhaps it could be- I have no idea, I have never experienced it or seen it happen so I cannot say for certainty but that doesn't mean it's not possible. But for now, I will say no and for that reason it is not the be all and end all.

It's somewhat comparable to human age- growing means you have different responsibilities. Yet when a soul grows "old", is it the end? Or does it move to another level and repeat a similar cycle? Or?

A lot of people who are told they must be young souls for having a different truth could in actuality be an old soul. We don't all live in tune with our soul's voice 100% therefore how would the age of it be reflected? If we all did live by our souls' truth or the source's, I would imagine far less destruction and we would become love. We would transcend it. There would be balance within and therefore "outside" of us. Humanity would be the true unity intended and reflected.

I don't see an age in mind. I see a goal and I see a path. Where you are on the path only shows what next steps are needed to reach the goal. I don't feel the path is travelled at a constant pace.
At the end of the day, we all walk that very same path (or perhaps we don't?) but either way, we're all beautiful. We're all loved. We're all equal. Remember who you are beyond the experiences. Remember the core that remained the same.

I am but a pebble in the ocean, and my opinion is a grain of sand. I hope that I did not cause offence. I am not claiming to right, just sharing my perspective at this moment in time. Perhaps next year I will be preaching something different lol. It's funny how things are constantly growing, changing and expanding. A lot of things seem to eventually become "outdated". It makes me wonder what really does matter?
Maybe nothing. Maybe that it just is and does. Maybe not.

Also another point: soul vs personality?

your post makes a lot of sense to me... so many aspects of life are so easy for me to put in perspective/water down/shake off because they appear not important or relevant to me..that includes friends or family ties.. this is something i usualy keep for myself because it can hurt feelings but reading this post and other posts feels like a light bulp goes on.

people tend to misunderstand us. we love to live in our bedroom all day, wondering why other souls are not cooperative with our ideals. and then we realise everyone deserves the chance. end we end up love only foods and nice drinks because they give lovely effect. we are too complexed to enjoy the world. who knows maybe there are higher realms for us or we just simply come back home without reincarnating

Scorpiogirl112 thank you for posting this. Well summarized and said overall. I do have to add a few things if you dont mind.....and this will be more of a challenge to ALL the OLD SOULS out there. "Having realized who you are, and having gained the understanding about the world around you and its life cycles......having understood the meaning of death and reincarnation and karma......WHAT DO YOU WANT TO LEARN, SEE, EXPERIENCE, CHANGE IN THIS LIFETIME?" I understand that Old Souls don't identify with material gains.... But then what do you identify with? What makes you passionate? What do you want to learn? What do you want to experience? What would you change on this planet today? I am kind of curious to see what your replies would be :))))

that's the question indeed.
My personal answer for that for the moment is acquiring knowledge.
But I am always wondering if it is the right thing to do.
I feel bored with that day after day, and I am not sure whether it is the right way to spend a lifetime.

What an amazing post as I could agree with almost everything you said. I think the intuitive side and the ability to accept others are perhaps more profound than those seen in younger souls but also understanding the bigger picture of how this world functions. Things are what they are and everything and everyone serves a purpose. Ultimately I think everyone is on their way to spiritual enlightenment its just that we are all at different stages of that path. Depending on where we are, the universe sets us on a path to experience and learn certain things in our lifetime through ourselves and through others. I think all this means in the context of our soul's age is that we have all been initiated and have mastered many many things in our many lifetimes which as a result sets us on a more spiritually centered path with different obstacles to overcome. In terms of tarot cards, we are like the magician card whom has mastered all four elements and serves as a bridge between earth and the heavens.

I recommend that you all look into vedic astrology which is the science of our karma. Its really helped me learn a lot about myself as well as the complexities of who people are. In some ways, vedic astrology was one of the first things to truly validate a lot of the things and patterns that I feel but could not really explain or be understood by most people. What we do in this lifetime will vary from each person but we understand there is a disconnect between what is accepted versus what we know to be true.

When all the Kama depth ae paid, all the lessons learned, when we have learned to love unconditionally and have become LOVE,when we realize that everything is perfect the it is,Then is when we will aascend..we will merge with the whole and become One.“A drop of water entering the ocean joyfully merges into something greater than itself.”

ok then, his is 100% me.i belong to the 11% tehe... <3 <3 <3

feels good to be understood and to know I am not alone with this...makes me feel more peaceful right now..

Furthermore,88 number is closely related to Aldof Hitler who I do not like and I do want to be so destructive like that person, i would have prefer other master number than this vibration.

I wonder if I change my name to other numbers not carrying a master number will I ease my burden this lifetime.

I have master number 88 in my name numerology.

Much very much is spot on. I am so glad i found this:) Makes me feel at peace. My gf always tells me that i dont bother about a great deal of the troubles of the world. And that "lazy" attitude. But im not lazy, i do care. But not about the stuff she thinks matter. I will now sleep, with a smile inside of me. Hope to meet you in the drift:)

Is there any spiritual danger in the realization that you are an old soul? Is that a sign that we have a couple of more go-rounds on earth?

I've always felt different and from a young age I 'knew' things such as that all religions are branches of a tree that point towards the same truth and that a person has to repeat lessons until he has learned them. I'm also a Highly Sensitive Person and life has been very emotional with big ups and downs. At times when I needed to comply to the system (failing in school) I felt suicidal, but luckily I did not off myself. Recently, in the past couple of years I believe I have grown much. Living much healthier, having more awareness, being happier. The issue I'm dealing with now is my purpose in my life. What am I here for? Sometimes it feels like a drag. "Can't I just go home already?" I think a lot. Apparently not. Perhaps I need to add more love into this world. I'm 19 years old and live in the Netherlands btw :)

You know, I feel exactly the same way... And also have the same question "can I go home'?. I'm tired of life and want to withdraw from this world. Confused and lost, don't know what to do with the rest of my life....

Also, it seems to me that your perception of life and it's hurdles don't include young ones. 180 for you. One thing that I am sure of is that life (or perception of past life) is never certain.

Scorpiogirl112 you are an amazing woman in your observation. You have stated a number of observations that, in the context of this conversation, hold true. My dear, you are very wrong in one or more of your observations however. The old soul doesn't stand by. How could it? It doesn't remain complacent throughout your lifetime or their's because if it did so it would be doomed to re-live the same life it was re born into. It must make a change! In some way! Small or large. That is our destiny. Take it from me.

thank you for your insightful overview. I say,

Having an 'old soul', doesn't mean having it easy - JB

Dear All,

Interesting article. I resonate well with some of it. I believe that I am an old soul as well & do know that it is my last life here on earth in many more was than one. And for that reason if I'm not coming back, I feel the need to see past all this exhaustion & some of the disadvantages which I can not change or replace. But to do what I can to fulfill my dreams & the purpose I have on this earth & in my last life. If anyone's seen the X-Factor recently with Jahmene Douglas, he mentioned how he always thought about about his dreams & what he wants to do & spent most of his time singing whilst at work. Well, I've been like that every time I've ever worked for someone else, I'd spent hours thinking about all the things that I want to do in my future. And never considered to push past all the obstacles standing in my way to fulfill my future dreams for one reason or another. Life's been complicated & caring for others has been more important to me, so I missed out on many things which meant a lot. I do believe that I would feel very sad in heaven if I haven't fulfilled my dreams & completed my mission here on this earth.

But I do have to consider that diet plays a huge part in our existence & eating correctly makes the biggest difference. And the majority of us simple don't eat properly. I started juicing a whole bunch of parsley recently in my cold pressed juicer. I did this everyday for a couple of weeks & personally in experience I felt as if I gained more energy than I've ever had. I started to sleep for only 4 hours a night & that seemed as if it was enough for me. It gave me the chance to do so much more. I know it's not a cure or an end all solution for so many of the descriptions of being an old soul, but it's helped me get closer to my goal. And this year, I have a lot to do. I am desperately in need of accomplishing my goals, because I don't know what next year holds. And that really scares me!!! I hope that you all don't make the same mistake of missing out on life's opportunities because you feel tired & over burdened & crave the simple life without all the problems & stresses in the same way as I do. But I do dream of being successful in all that I do. Putting in the hard work is all that I can think will give me a better, more simple & more fulfilling life in the future. Sent with love....

99% of this story resonates with me on a very deep level. I am only 25 but I am already bored of life. I can relate to everything said above. The depression is the worst part, it makes this boring existence even harder. I don't know what to do! The thought of living out another 50+ years here is daunting.

This piece touched me deeply. I have never identified so much with something in my life. I have always felt different. I have always battled to develop meaningful relationships with others because I always felt misunderstood and different. I really hope that I could get in contact with some of you. I would really like to talk to people who feel the same as I do.

I think i am an old soul, help me .. ?

What do you need help with? Do you need someone to talk to? I don't know much about Old Souls in the formal sense but if you need someone to bounce ideas off of, perhaps we could chat?

sounds good with me c:

Thank you, very interesting. Searched old soul and your link came up. All made perfect sense to me! But' I'm 42 and Been learning and studying (not through organisations) for decades! I have traits of mature and old, living on earth is hard for all souls right now.. Thank you, love, light, respect and support to all in every dimension. Cxxx

When I read the about the old soul, I started to cry. I realised that I was reading about myself! everything you said described me exactly. It has blown me away to realise that I really am an old soul. I have always suspected it, but reading this has convinced me.

I am a very old soul but I have this strong desire to teach but only thru example .I love so much. Have u ever read any Seth books they are extremely interesting I read one when I was bout 14 it changed me or u can say it verified so many things.

It's pritty accurate I always was the kid that never got in trouble I'm considered lazy and never really been interested in sex I have a very positive out look on life

I cannot believe I have finally figured this out for myself. I have been wonder for so many years why I am the way that I am. I have never fit into any group of people. I never liked going out drinking and partying. I saw it as a waste of my time. I would like to get to know more old souls. Please message me if you can help.

I can't relate to feeling bored, pessimistic, or depressed. I agree material earthly things don't matter much, but with everything that I've learned, plus the little examples of God that are universal, eternal, and forever fresh are always worthy of my attention. How are so many old souls aloof about this? I know we are at different stages.. but for me personally, I don't want to languish. If I know so much, then I must share. Otherwise, I do not know enough.

Hi jade? With you completely. God, universe, togetherness. My life path not a disaster but full of challenges and right and wrong decisions, but through relations with my high self, my case archangel Michael, experience and always wanting to know more...there is always room for growth xxx

About three to four years ago I was told by my Supervisor and co-worker at the time that I am and have the traits of an Old Soul. After that I waited a few months to try to figure what they meant but I ended up asking them. I was told a basic definition of the term which since then I have periodically been researching. In this; I see alot of myself in what you have said. With what jadelaphaugus said; I do get bored constantly which I always have to stay busy to stop the feeling and others say that I am mainly optimistic but during certain topics I can be labeled as a pessimist with depression. When I am in that state it gets to the point where you said; "what else is there to live for?" Yet I am 22, but my body, mind and soul do say different.

Thank you.

I empathise with all messages. We are all on our chosen earth-life. we have all begun our own story and experience of this planet.. Memorable experiences for me... At 18 and for years, I felt I belonged on planet (weirdo) and worse... I was rebellious, hated authority and was totally mizunderstood and mostly felt spiritual blackness and felt undeserving and existed and sometimes felt death was the only cure ( Which it is not....). for this incredible, debilitating, crushing, mental, physical and spiritual pain that crushed me.... Then, The major spiritual shift. The light presence was a healing hand on top of my head from Jesus after I fell to my knees to god in utter distress and prayed for help! "Something's wrong but I don't know what, help, help!" It came nearly immediately and my life started to get better, with normal up and downs in between and I excelled for a long time. My interest about self healing, god, the soul, the being, angels and humanity has been with me for 25 years and I still don't know enough! I loved reading everyone's thoughts, but I will be looking into more articles by author and the michael site. Thank you all hope my rambling made sense? X

I don't agree with the boredom or depression. I firmly believe I'm an old soul, but this "term" should be split up into different sections. Old souls who learned several introspective lessons from all these past experiences, and old souls who did it all and don't necessarily want to reflect anymore. This type of old soul will not go up to the transcendent soul as quickly as the first type I mentioned because they are "stuck" in this soul level, at least for now. I personally believe because I feel I have experienced so much.. no matter how small I think world accomplishments are, the little things / symbolic acts of love, continue to happen every single day. And I am in awe and desiring to become a teacher.

Agreed...I too am definitely an old soul and while I do not try to teach those who obviously have no intrest in learning... those who look to me for wisdom I share with. I choose not to "get stuck" because it hinders my path. It's more as if I live in my own little bubble where I choose to grow and continue to find awe in the workings of the things here on earth. I let others live their own journeys and just stay detached from the drama, but still find pleasure in my own life. I did choose it after all for whatever lessons I needed to learn right?

The worst of all is the sense of inevitable boredom, and fewer and fewer stuff gets you excited. Also is the unreal sense of the way most people function all around!