Cointelpro Targets Judi Bari And Darryl Cherney $4.4 Million In Damages

I am a victim of COINTELPRO. I have been molested, raped, beaten up, burned, singed, all teeth have

been hacked, nose has been brutally burned and cut (with laser burns on the side of each nostril, which

has been enlarged by their destruction). Each ear has been cut, hacked, bones burned inside, and the

rt ear elongated, all bone structure has been burned and reshaped. A round, full face has been turned

into an oval shape. Facial skin badly burned with lasers ... arms, hands, body, all badly burned with laser

burns; even finger nails cut to the quick. could feel needles into all body parts. Eyes badly burned. Lips

and mouth burned; unbelievable. The toxic odors which become vaporized 24/7 along with constant

stalking. THIS IS COINTELPRO ... vehicles stalking me have license plates with FG ...... at times there

is a 50 car caravan and "they" seem to be in a drugged up trance This is definitely COINTELPRO. And

I won't stop until I can ....

TI's.. If u are smart, and i know, Ti's are smart, just have been led astray. Please learn from this.. All Bob says is true... Think about it..

All,

The video tells of one man's story of "gang-stalking".  It is occurring in Salinas, California on the Monterey coastline.  The reporter ends by saying that these crimes ARE punishable, since it IS conspiracy and stalking.



The reporter is dead wrong!  There is no such crime as “gang-stalking, and there cannot be a crime of conspiracy to do things that are not a crime."

You are wondering if the reporter might be right, and you suggest that we accept the use of terminology which will defeat us.  I'm going to write a detailed explanation of this subject because the difference between the right terms and the wrong terms makes a world of difference in our work.  We need to all be on the same page, and we need to try to get all the other TI's on that same page.  So please read and reread this carefully and let me know if you have questions.

The activity falsely described as “gang-stalking” is not the crime of stalking.  It is not punishable by any of the state or federal anti-stalking laws. What this reporter says and what many TI's say or believe is the kind of false information that is defeating us because it encourages TI's to seek impossible solutions instead of the only possible solution.

The crime of stalking is defined to require a series of harassing acts by a single person.  The normal TI experience of a series of harassing acts by separate persons is not a crime under any state or federal law. There are very good reason why the laws must be written this way, which I will get to.

The reporter is also wrong in saying that “gang-stalking” can be punished as a conspiracy. The conspiracy to commit a crime is in itself a crime regardless of whether or not the crime is actually committed. But a conspiracy to engage in activities that are not a crime is not a conspiracy to commit a crime. 

When perps conspire to carry out a series of separate acts of harassment, they are not conspiring to commit a crime since separate acts of harassment are not a crime. So there is no crime of conspiracy.

As I've mentioned before Bob, I believe we will have to adopt this terminology (gang-stalking), since the persons complaining about it are NOT saying that's its local.  (The TI here doesn't know that by moving, he won't escape it.).  My point here is, that we need to turn this phrase somehow to our advantage to mean "teams of people that operate in cities across America --because it is the result of FEDERAL training."  So TI's have named this "Gang-stalking" ----a different definition than merely "stalking".

But it isn't stalking.  It doesn't match any definition of "stalking."  If we want to get the support of the public, we need to clearly say what we mean and to mean what we say.  We won't get support by saying one thing and trying to explain that we really mean something entirely different from what we are saying.  You can't achieve public understanding by giving words false meanings that are unknown and unaccepted by the public. 

When TI's say that they are being harassed by "gang-stalkers," the normal public response will be to think that we are protected by anti-stalking laws and that police should be arresting the gang members who are harassing us.  So we need to explain that the "gang-stalkers" aren't really committing the crime of stalking.  Thus we can't get any help from the police. 

If they aren't engaged in any kind of stalking, why are we calling them "gang-stalkers"?  And what do we want the public to do to help us? 

Now we have to explain that our problem is not really with the local gangs. Our problem is instead with the FBI, which is sending local gangs to harass us.  So what we want the public to do is to put pressure on congress to investigate the FBI because it is responsible for local gang-stalking. 

Why were we talking about gang-stalkers if our problem is really with the FBI?  How do you think the public will respond to this?  We have thoroughly discredited ourselves with this confused story.  We have no chance of getting any help from the public this way. 

If instead of talking about "gang-stalkers," we take to the public documentation to show that the proven COINTELPRO operations of the past are continuing today, we have a believable story and a reasonable chance of being able to arouse the public to demand investigation by congress.  We must not talk about "gang-stalkers" when our purpose is to try to get the public to put pressure on congress to investigate current COINTELPRO.  We should only be talking about proof that COINELPRO operations, proven in the past, are still continuing today.

Eleanor White created all the confusion about "organized stalking groups" so that we would not be able to get an investigation of the true COINTELPRO problem.  The terms "gang-stalking" and "group stalking" and "citizens stalking groups" very clearly imply that TI's are being harassed by local gangs.  That is how these terms will be understood if they are used when we try to communicate our case for congressional investigation to the public.  This is the way to defeat our attempt to obtain public pressure to force a third COINTELPRO investigation by congress. 

Instead of trying to explain that we don't mean what we are saying, we should avoid saying what we don't mean.  We should only say what we do mean and what will help us achieve the objective of congressional investigation.  Complaints about "gang-stalking are counterproductive to this objective. 

The purpose for inventing "gang-stalking" was to cover up the COINTELPRO truth.  The proven reality of government COINTELPRO torture was transformed by Anti-TI Activists into the paranoid delusion of "citizen stalking groups." 

I've explained to Derrick and to Eleanor a great many times how they are defeating TI's by using this false terminology.  They are fully aware of the harm they are doing to TI's, and they keep doing it.

Derrick was clearly seeking failure instead of success by obtaining hundreds of TI signatures on his current petition asking congress to investigate "organized stalking."  He knows that congress has no responsibility whatsoever to comply with this request.  Why didn't he petition congress to investigate present COINTELPRO operations by the FBI?

Derrick also submitted to DOJ 80 TI affidavits complaining that the FBI had refused requests to investigate "organized stalking."  Of course, the FBI would refuse to investigate the non-crime of "organized stalking."  It is not supposed to be investigating non-criminal activities.  For five years, Derrick has blatantly followed strategies that were clearly designed and intended to fail.  He has always rejected recommendations from an attorney of strategies could succeed.

Secret COINTELPRO torture of citizens by the FBI from 1956 to 1990 has been thoroughly proved to the public.  It's not difficult for us to prove that the known past COINTELPRO operations are still continuing today.  It is a is a proven problem with a proven solution. The story about "gang-stalkers" and "citizen stalking groups" is false and unbelievable.  It has no proven history and no possible solution. 

The public can help us obtain a solution to the real problem of COINTELPRO as it did for TI's twice in the past when they proved COINTELPRO truth to the public, but the public will not and cannot help us obtain a solution to the false problem of "organized stalking" and "electronic harassment: by "citizens stalking groups" or "gang-stalkers." 

We have 50,000 pages of hard evidence proving the truth about COINTELPRO. There is NO credible evidence to prove anything about "gang-stalking."   NO one outside of the TI community has ever heard of it.  It is extremely foolish to destroy the COINTELPRO case that has already been thoroughly proven for us with two congressional investigations and to switch to paranoid-sounding terminology about a subject that that is unknown outside the TI community and that has never been proven except by the dubious David Lawson propaganda pamphlets.

It doesn't help to try to explain that all the people who complain about "gang-stalkers" are really talking about COINTELPRO.  If TI's don't use the right words to start with, they have lost their case.  They will be immediately judged paranoid and delusional, and not given any opportunity to explain further.



Why don't we "contribute" to WIKIpedia by adding this type of definition? Gang Stalking is already an entry in a page in WIKIpedia.  Maybe then we can get legislation passed to make this new type of crime totally illegal.



Legislation is now Derrick's false solution. Get the laws amended to make “organized stalking” a crime. Then we can get all the perps arrested and convicted. 

It can't be done. There are major legal, constitutional, and practical reasons why such legislation would be invalid and useless if you could somehow get it passed. TI's could waste decades trying to do this, and they would inevitably fail.

I have previously explained this briefly.  I will now give a more detailed explanation of the reasons why this approach is impossible and impractical.

First, you could never get state legislators to enact a law that is aimed at curbing FBI abuse. They all know that they would be subjected to FBI retaliation, causing them to be defeated in their next election if they voted for an anti-FBI law.

But suppose that you could somehow get such legislation enacted. It would be invalidated as unconstitutional. It is impossible to make a single act of harassment by a single person a crime in any way that does not violate First Amendment rights. Many forms of harassment can be interpreted as an exercise of the right to freedom of speech.  A law that can be used to punish free speech is unconstitutional.

This is why all the anti-stalking statutes must define stalking as a series of harassing acts by a single person. Malicious intent to inflict harm can be found in a series of harassing acts by a single person. Such intentional harm is not protected by the First Amendment. You can't establish such intent to inflict harm in a single act of harassment. So the First Amendment takes precedence in the case of a single act of harassment.

Another problem is that some of the laws defining stalking as a series of harassing acts by a single person have been held “void for vagueness.” It is difficult to define what constitutes harassment. To avoid this problem, some of the statutes have been amended to require that the series of harassing acts must cause the victim fear of physical harm. This more specific definition of stalking has held up in court, but there's no way that a statute making a single act of harassment a crime could hold up in court.

Let's consider all the possibilities.  How about making it a crime to engage in a conspiracy with a group of people to carry out separate acts of harassment by each person? First, you have the same constitutional problem in trying to define a single act of harassment in a way that does not violate First Amendment rights.

But even if you could get past the constitutional test, such a law would be useless to TI's, who cannot identify the perps who are harassing them and who get no help at all from police who will not even investigate serious perp crimes such as burglary and vandalism.

That's because local police are a part of COINTELPRO. Local police often participate in COINTELPRO harassment. They are certainly not going to enforce laws against themselves nor against their federal buddies.

And even if the police wanted to help TI's, they could not enforce such a law. How could they prove a conspiracy when every separate act of harassment can be explained innocently and no perp will admit a conspiracy?

Trying to prosecute perps under such a law would never succeed, but even if it could succeed in convicting a few perps, the FBI has a million more to send out. This is an utterly hopeless solution no matter how many impossible assumptions you make in its favor.

It is not possible to fight COINTELPRO at the ground level under the false name of “gang-stalking.” The only solution that has ever worked for TI's has been to expose it at the top level as the violation of constitutional rights by a federal agency. The solution that worked twice before can work again, but if COINTELPRO remains disguised as “gang-stalking,” no solution can ever be achieved.

Our only hope of obtaining congressional investigation by congress is by first proving to the public that a federal agency is engaged in the secret torture of citizens.  We have the evidence to do this if TI's would document their COINTELPRO experiences as I have long been asking them to do.  But instead of proving COINTELPRO truth, TI's are covering up; this truth with the "gang-stalking" myth. 

We can't prove government torture to the public if TI''s keep stating their experiences in Anti-TI terminology.  "Organized stalking groups" "gang-stalkers," and "electronic harassment" are wrong terms that defeat TI rights. 

The correct terms that must be used to advance TI rights are:  "COINTELPRO operations" and "Nonconsensual DEW experiments" by federal agencies.  The TI choice of words can make all the difference between an achievable solution and no possible solution.

In order to prove to the Bioethics Commission that it has a responsibility to investigate nonconsensual DEW experiments by federal agencies, we must use COINTELPRO evidence showing that a federal agency is using COINTELPRO operations to disable and discredit the involuntary subjects.  If TI's keep saying that they are victims of "gang-stalkers," the Commission will conclude that there is no evidence of government agency responsibility for experiments on TI's and that it has no authority to investigate "electronic harassment" by "organized stalkers." 

CONCLUSION:

If TI's continue to cover up the COINTELPRO-DEW truth with the “gang-stalking” myth, they have no hope of achieving a solution, and we are wasting our time and effort trying to help them. I have been explaining this to them for 8 years, but they still seem hell-bent in achieving their own destruction.

If you think it is impossible to make them understand that they are defeating themselves by changing COINTELPRO to “gang-stalking,” then we might as well give up now. We cannot help them.

I suggest that you send this explanation to TI's who keep misusing "gang-stalking" terminology and that you post it on our website.  We can't help TI's if they will not help us by discontinuing the use of false terms such as "gang-stalking," "organized stalking," "electronic harassment," etc. 

TI's must learn that this terminology issue is a matter of major importance to them.  They are destroying themselves if they keep using terminology that turns a problem with a possible solution into a problem with no possible solution. 

Bob S

Here is what i have to say about DEWS.. I do believe it exists.. I have read too many scientific articles.Im a kinda guy that understands science.Yes they are capable of this, and yes, a whole lot more. Im logical,quite reasonable,a fundamentalist.My senses tell me many what is true.Seeing is believing !! For whatever reason, Im sure some victims are zapped with DEWS.I think we all are snooped on inside of our homes with milliwave, which omits radiation by the way !!.



We all have different stories, different thoughts about different ideas of why this started, who started it,.What they do, etc . All this , what we perceive is created,exclusively, for us to perceive.Its designed to have us different,to never agree...to let this blow in the wind for another 100 yrs.All the MIS-DIS Info....I know this, We need to get our **** together, get our ducks in a row..Some have DEW, some dont... some have this, some dont. We are ALL ONE !!! .Im in Texas, I can never meet another in TX. why is that ??.. I know 1 true TI in NEW YORK state..There is a distrust that has been created...Let ur eyes and ears guide u.with logic. Some may not believe its the gov.That should not be the only factor that guides u to ur conclusion.Some may feel that if its the gov, we have no hope in ending this.This could be there security blanket. All gov. is not bad.Trust me, the good side is working in our favor.FOR whatever reason, all that dont believe like US is not a perp..

Look at the gangstalking terminology we all absorbed. its not even a crime ????

Then she dies of cancer a few years later, I guarantee the used DEW on that lady, no question about it. The police and FBI use them alot more then you think. They either will frame you or they will make you a T.I. or both.



Ive read many stories where a guy fileing one complaint againt a police officer and he started being attacked with DEW.

Sure the FREEMASONS are involved, heavily, HOWEVER, The Gov. overrules...and, that said, is freemasonic.We want to go after the HEAD of the snake, not the tail !!!!

To our overseas friends, The US gov. is worldwide, along with U.K. and Israel.What would u call this in ur country besides gangstalking ???. If u r a victim, Ur gov. is involved , plain and simple.Sure orgs are involved, its all controlled by ur gov., a central command post, if u will !!!..

What i find out, ill post here and other places.