Confusing Mahatma Gandhi With The Bible


It has been used so many times it is mistaken for a Bible quote, don't put words in Gods mouth.

Why do people that quote John 3:16 and 17 not quote verse 3:36

" He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son, shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him" John 3:36

Verse 36 is a very inconvenient truth to all those that do not preach the Whole Counsel of God.
churinga churinga
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10 Responses Jun 14, 2010

I read the Bible, and the Old Testament God, which is the basis for Allah of the Qur'an, actually does hate the sinner in addition.

See my reply below concerning hate. The contradiction between testaments as far as the nature of God is only apparent, not real.

That is not because of sin or being a sinner, according to romans 5 mankind has been forgiven of sin i.e. through one man adam sin entered mankind and through one man jesus mankind was redeeemed...not just is not sin that seperates us it is our refusal of not making jesus lord of our life...god does not hate us he loves us and calls us his beloved...what more love than a man show that lays his life down for another...your verse that even you post says nothing about sin....its called grace! !!

BRAVO brieks07 for your comments, as well as OnewithJC and the others. It is great to have these discussions about Our God and Savior. <br />
churinga, not wanting to put words in your mouth, your statement is a bit vague in what you mean, I am wondering if you feel that when people quote certain verses from the Bible but not those that are quite a few verses, (approx 18), below, is it your belief that they are not preaching the "full council of God?" I am not understanding if that's what you mean exactly. My reaction to this post is that it really bothers you that this statement is being confused as to something God said. These things happen all the time. My first thought goes to the saying, "Money is the root of all evil." The correct saying is "The love of money is the root of all evil." <br />
Either way, it does sound like the type of preachings from God and Jesus and just maybe the inspiration came from God. Either way, it's the messages given that are important and in this case, I don't think God is offended because this is the type of messages He has & is sending to us. You sounded a bit snippy and that really rubs people the wrong way. Your point would have been received better had you just omitted the, "don't put words in God's mouth." statement. Thank you, however, for setting the record straight.

The Bible says in the original Greek not that the love of money is the root of all evil, but that the love of money is "a root of all the evils".

To expand on that thought, sometimes I get to a point in my life where I think, "What if God did ___(this)___?" and I wonder what I would do. But your comment helped me realize the true answer: God wouldn't do ___(that)___,... because if He did, He wouldn't be the God we are so blessed to know and love. God is NOT a tyrant. He doesn't hate His children. He isn't cruel or unjust or reckless. God IS Sovereign. God loves His children. God IS Love. He is also fair and just and wise, faithful and longsuffering.<br />
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"Be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ hath forgiven you." Ephesians 4:32

Well said, Brieks... What youve written is exactly what non believers or doubters must read.

It's not a real conflict. In the beginning, God's command to Noah was that capital punishment was specified for murder, not for sexual sins. Stoning for sins other than murder came in with the covenant of Moses, as did kosher food restrictions, etc. God said in the book of Jeremiah that He had a new and better covenant on the way. Jesus knew that He was ushering in the New Covenant which was to be for all mankind, not just ethnic Israel. Capital punishment for sexual sins and kosher food restrictions were never intended to be a part of the New Covenant.

I love your comment OnewithJC!! I am so thankful God is the way He is and that He loves us. What you wrote: "If God was like many people in the world and I was punished because He hated me, I don't think I could love Him. I know that I would not love Him. I love Him because He is fair and just. I love Him because He first loved me. I do not have to love Him, neither did He have to love me but He did/does and of course, I do/will love Him" really sticks with me. I think you are so right!

That's what I meant by it conceptualclarity. =) Thank you.

Those who do not say the names of the people they are judging against are the true cowards. Who hide behind the computer screen.

If the actual quote came from Gandhi, that doesn't really matter. The question is, does it accurately reflect the content of the Bible, which does say "Love your enemies..." It's like the fact that the word Trinity is not in the bible is irrelevant; the concept is clearly there.

Could you elaborate more so I will be sure I understand?

There are passages about God hating, for example several passages where He says He hates Israel because of her idolatrous infidelity. Yet He also says in Hosea that the Lord loves the sons of Israel even though they turn to other gods. Those whom God hates, He simultaneously loves, and He desires to see them come to repentance. Thus He brought to repentance the most wicked and destructive king of Judah, Mannasseh. God loves everyone, including those who have provoked Him to the point of hate. One should not say that one can't love and hate at the same time, because we humans do it all the time. As Christians it is not our job to try to figure out who has provoked God to the point of hate and proclaim that God hates that soul. What if we are wrong? To speak for God wrongly is a fearful thing. And we never see Jesus or any apostle telling people God hates them.
The Bible says God is love. It never says God is hate. We are ambassadors for Christ to effect a ministry of reconciliation between God and man (II Corinthians 5:18-20). Therefore we are to proclaim God's love for all.

But that's cool---I didn't realize that was a Ghandi quote.

For the record, when I used the saying "God hates sin, not the sinner", I was not using it as a Bible quote, nor was I saying "thus saith the Lord"...God hating sin but not the sinner is what I believe. And I didn't realize I was supposed to quote John 3:16 &17 and then skip down to verse 36.