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Was The USA Founded On Biblical Principles.

Lincolns Thanksgiving Proclomation of October 3 1863 begins as.

" It is the duty of nations as well of men, to own their dependence on the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon. And to recognise the sublime truth announced in the Holy scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations are blessed whose God is the Lord"

George Washington first President US.

" Bless o Lord the whole race of mankind, and let the world be filled with the knowledge of Thee and Thy Son, Jesus Christ."
" It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible" extract George Washingtons personal prayer book.
W Herbert Burk BD ; Washingtons prayers ( Norriston PA published for the benefit of the washington memorial chapel 1907 pp 97-95)

When he proclaimed a national day of thanksgiving Washington said.

" Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor.....

Now therefore i do recommend and assign Thursday, the twenty sixth day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these united states...that we then may all unite unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpostions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of the tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted; for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed....

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations, and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions....to promote the knowledge and practice of the true religion and virtue...

Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3rd of October, A.D. 1789
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The founding fathers reconized the need for a moral society. In their own words.....<br />
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John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams is a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and our second President.<br />
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Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration of Independence said. "[T]he only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the ob<x>ject and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind." <br />
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Noah Webster, author of the first American Speller and the first Dictionary said, "[T]he Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence." <br />
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Gouverneur Morris, Penman and Signer of the Constitution. "[F]or avoiding the extremes of despotism or anarchy . . . the only ground of hope must be on the morals of the people. I believe that religion is the only solid ba<x>se of morals and that morals are the only possible support of free governments. [T]herefore education should teach the precepts of religion and the duties of man towards God." <br />
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Fisher Ames author of the final wording for the First Amendment wrote, "[Why] should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a school book? Its morals are pure, its examples captivating and noble. The reverence for the Sacred Book that is thus early impressed lasts long; and probably if not impressed in infancy, never takes firm hold of the mind." <br />
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John Jay, Original Chief-Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court , "The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next. Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts." <br />
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James Wilson, Signer of the Constitution; U. S. Supreme Court Justice, "Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is divine. . . . Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants. Indeed, these two sciences run into each other."<br />
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Noah Webster, author of the first American Speller and the first Dictionary stated, "The moral principles and precepts contained in the sc<x>riptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. . . All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible."<br />
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Robert Winthrop, Speaker of the U. S. House, "Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them or by a power without them; either by the Word of God or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or by the bayonet."<br />
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George Washington, General of the Revolutionary Army, president of the Constitutional Convention, First President of the United States of America, Father of our nation, " Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society." <br />
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Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Declaration of Independence "[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."<br />
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"Whereas true religion and good morals are the only solid foundations of public liberty and happiness . . . it is hereby earnestly recommended to the several States to take the most effectual measures for the encouragement thereof." Continental Congress, 1778

Thank you for contributing, i have posted in this same group a more concise group of quotes for anyone interested, the revisionists are always at work to change the facts.

yes, this is just a small list of things our founding fathers had to say, about their view on a number of subjects.

Churinga, you asked a question, which you did not answer, "Was America founded on Biblical Principles?' I say no. For "Christian slavery" is contrary to the Mashiach. This is the world. For "Christian hatred" of their fellow men is contrary to the Mashiach. This is the world. For judging men less than possessions, native American and blacks, this is contrary to the Mashiach. This is the world. Killing and persecuting in the name of Christ. This is contrary to the Mashiach. It is of the world. Persecuting people as witches, this is contrary to the Mashiach. This is the world. We have sinned greatly against you, O Lord. Against you only have we sinned.

Jp5040, if you knew anything about the Holy Roman Empire you would know that it was not a religious entity or a theocracy of any kind. The word "Holy" was added to the title pretty late, ironically around the time when the Popes seldom performed the ritual of crowning the Emperor.<br />
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Some founding fathers had slaves and some were abolitionists. But they weren't professional slave traders and neither were the founders of the first colonies..<br />
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And come on : there is nothing in the Bible condoning homosexual affections.

simple fact is nearly everything written by the founding fathers in some way referenced god or religion. the original question here was whether the U.S. was founded on biblical principles and i am saying that it was and i think it is pretty obvious that it was. i am not saying i like the churches or religions but it is plain as the nose on your face that this nation was founded by christians or at least by men claiming to be christians. <br />
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As i think i said early on i don't believe in ANY religions, though i was raised as a christian i lost my faith many years ago. I really don't understand the mentality in this country anymore though, no one wants to tell muslims, buddhists, pagans, or atheists that they cannot practice their beliefs openly but damn let a christian tell someone merry christmas and people act like they commited murder LOL

manly p hall "we have tried this thing called heaven and hell,and it hasn't worked out to well for us" look at the writers our fore-fathers read? <br />
j krishnamurti"anything that can be generated can be corrupted"<br />
look at what you generate?

yes it is mindful to aurge, but with the children (that are the grown-ups) or sheepsometimes a slap in the face is needed!?. and churinga who posted this blog listen and learning together ... and the ones who want to, they will look. ? but i am not lying on another person... this place is sounding like high school ..

well put concept......and well researched

Some posters are posing a ridiculous false choice between secularism and theocracy. Theocracy has been relatively rare in Christendom, aside from the Papal States and minor states in Germany and Italy run by archbishops, bishops, abbots, and abbesses before Napoleon's invasions. There is no history of theocracy I know of in Protestantism except for Calvin's Geneva and a couple of minor north German bishoprics. The US, of course, was a Protestant land.<br />
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None of the founding fathers were deists as far as I know.. Several were proto-Unitarians, and most of those had some degree of regard for the Bible and believed in divine providence rather than the passive God of deism. Most founders were orthodox trinitarians, including George Washington. The founding fathers had a high regard for Christianity. In their writings they were critical of the French deists who attacked Christianity.<br />
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The establishment clause of the Constitution was meant to prevent the federal government from selecting a state church and discriminating against others as in England. It was not meant to provide excuses for restrictions on prayer in public or other ACLU-style attacks on religious persons' rights. It is instructive to note that after they crafted the First Amendment, the founding fathers paid Christian chaplains for Congress with public funds and appropriated public funds for Christian evangelization of Indians in the Northwest Territory. Clearly the founding fathers had no agenda of de-Christianizing America. They intended for America to be as Christian and as oriented toward Biblical principles as any other land in Christendom, without the denominational favoritism. People should read George Washington's Farewell Address, which contains a blatant and stern rebuke of secularism, probably aimed at admirers of the mass murder-tainted French Revolution. The Address did not cause Washington loss of standing with other founding fathers.<br />
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The best historian on the subject of the founding fathers and religion is David Barton, who is distinguished by the fact that he has actually undertaken to carefully read the founding fathers for himself rather than relying on the dogmatic assertions of other historians. Historians have asserted, for example, that Washington's writings are devoid of Biblical references. In fact Washington's writings are replete with Biblical references, but they have gone unrecognized by irreligious historians who are unfamiliar with the wording of the Bible themselves.<br />
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Jp5040, there is not the slightest hint that the love between Jonathan and David or any other Biblically blessed brotherly love was sexual in nature. Both men had wives by whom they fathered children. "Man shall not lie with man unless it is his nature" is a confection. That is not in the Bible. There is also absolutely nothing in the Bible about stoning to death or otherwise harming a woman who talks back. Are you confusing the Bible with the Quran?

I do not think that those who would blindly follow pastors promoting hatred and bigotry by misquoting the passages see it like that.-jp do you mean people like Barack Obama who was blindly following the bigotry and hatred of Rev. Wright until he realized it was going to hurt his chances of getting elected?

can we look at the reasons for the pratice and how maybe its a part of meditation ? with reilgion meaning grathering of all energies,plants trees plantes moons, right? and they all have an influence on all of us? so when we settle the mind (silence the chattering) .. we now are intune with all energies? could it be a part of the phsyical meditation healing so on ... as meditation maybe the way to live life in every moment ... ?

can we look at the reasons for the pratice and how maybe its a part of meditation ? with reilgion meaning grathering of all energies,plants trees plantes moons, right? and they all have an influence on all of us? so when we settle the mind (silence the chattering) .. we now are intune with all energies? could it be a part of the phsyical meditation healing so on ... as meditation maybe the way to live life in every moment ... ?

i listen to the quaility of a mans mind,words,language.. but its even ba<x>sed on eastern philosophy ??? ... thats meditation??? right???????? your ritural form of it? maybe

(In addition to the authorities already quoted, in the preparation of the foregoing abstract of the main branches of philosophic thought the present writer has had recourse to Stanley's History of Philosophy; Morell's An Historical and Critical View of the Speculative Philosophy of Europe in the Nineteenth Century; Singer's Modern Thinkers and Present Problems; Rand's Modern Classical Philosophers; Windelband's History of Philosophy; Perry's Present Philosophical Tendencies; Hamilton's Lectures on Metaphysics and Logic; and Durant's The Story of Philosophy.)

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Having thus traced the more or less sequential development of philosophic speculation from Thales to James and Bergson, it is now in order to direct the reader's attention to the elements leading to and the circumstances attendant upon the genesis of philosophic thinking. Although the Hellenes proved themselves peculiarly responsive to the disciplines of philosophy, this science of sciences should not be considered indigenous to them. "Although some of the Grecians," writes Thomas Stanley, "have challenged to their nation the original of philosophy, yet the more learned of them have acknowledged it [to be] derived from the East." The magnificent institutions of Hindu, Chaldean, and Egyptian learning must be recognized as the actual source of Greek wisdom. The last was patterned after the shadow cast by the sanctuaries of Ellora, Ur, and Memphis upon the thought substance of a primitive people. Thales, Pythagoras, and Plato in their philosophic wanderings contacted many distant cults and brought back the lore of Egypt and the inscrutable Orient....................<br />
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PHILOSOPHY is the science of estimating values. The superiority of any state or substance over another is determined by philosophy. By assigning a position of primary importance to what remains when all that is secondary has been removed, philosophy thus becomes the true index of priority or emphasis in the realm of speculative thought. The mission of philosophy a priori is to establish the relation of manifested things to their invisible ultimate cause or nature.

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The two outstanding schools of American philosophy are Transcendentalism and Pragmatism. Transcendentalism, exemplified in the writings of Ralph Waldo Emerson, emphasizes the power of the transcendental over the physical. Many of Emerson's writings show pronounced Oriental influence, particularly his essays on the Oversoul and the Law of Compensation. The theory of Pragmatism, while not original with Professor William James, owes its widespread popularity as a philosophic tenet to his efforts. Pragmatism may be defined as the doctrine that the meaning and nature of things are to be discovered from consideration of their consequences. The true, according to James, "is only an expedient in the way of our thinking, just as 'the right' is only an expedient in the way of our behaving." (See his Pragmatism.) John Dewey, the Instrumentalist, who applies the experimental attitude to all the aims of life, should be considered a commentator of James. To Dewey, growth and change are limitless and no ultimates are postulated. The long residence in America of George Santayana warrants the listing of this great Spaniard among the ranks of American philosophers. Defending himself with the shield of skepticism alike from the illusions of the senses and the cumulative errors of the ages, Santayana seeks to lead mankind into a more apprehending state denominated by him the life of reason.<br />
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(In addition to the authorities already quoted, in the preparation of the foregoing abstract of the main branches of philosophic thought the present writer has had recourse to Stanley's History of Philosophy; Morell's An Historical and Critical View of the Speculative Philosophy of Europe in the Nineteenth Century; Singer's Modern Thinkers and Present Problems; Rand's Modern Classical Philosophers; Windelband's History of Philosophy; Perry's Present Philosophical Tendencies; Hamilton's Lectures on Metaphysics and Logic; and Durant's The Story of Philosophy.)<br />
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how many do you want its been twisted since day one? maybe

maybe this<br />
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Vicoism is a philosophy ba<x>sed upon the conclusions of Giovanni Battista Vico, who held that God controls His world not miraculously but through natural law. The laws by which men rule themselves, Vico declared, issue from a spiritual source within mankind which is en rapport with the law of the Deity. Hence material law is of divine origin and reflects the dictates of the Spiritual Father. The philosophy of Ontologism developed by Vincenzo Gioberti (generally considered more as a theologian than a philosopher) posits God as the only being and the origin of all knowledge, knowledge being identical with Deity itself. God is consequently called Being; all other manifestations are existences. Truth is to be discovered through reflection upon this mystery.

maybe this is what we are founded on????? maybe this is the foundation of christianity? maybe?<br />
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Dr. W. J. Durant declares that Herbert Spencer's Great Work, First Principles, made him almost at once the most famous philosopher of his time. Spencerianism is a philosophic positivism which describes evolution as an ever-increasing complexity with equilibrium as its highest possible state. According to Spencer, life is a continuous process from homogeneity to heterogeneity and back from heterogeneity to homogeneity. Life also involves the continual adjustment of internal relations to external relations. Most famous of all Spencer's aphorisms is his definition of Deity: "God is infinite intelligence, infinitely diversified through infinite time and infinite space, manifesting through an infinitude of ever-evolving individualities." The universality of the law of evolution was emphasized by Spencer, who applied it not only to the form but also to the intelligence behind the form. In every manifestation of being he recognized the fundamental tendency of unfoldment from simplicity to complexity, observing that when the point of equilibrium is reached '

LOL jp......i do not comment on the governmental practices of nations that i do not live in.....simply stated it is neither my place nor do i care and i am getting really tired of people from other countries getting on here and condemning my nations government or the practices we choose to follow. simply stated it is not your place nor does your opinion of my country matter.<br />
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that being said if you look in the old testament of the bible you will find the words "nor shall any man lie with another man" that seems to be a condemnation of homosexuality to me.<br />
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the reason the bible contradicts itself quite often is because it is divided into two parts the old testament being before christ and the new testament which is made up primarily of the teachings of christ and his followers. this is also why there is such a division amongst christians as some versions of christianity put more weight on the old and some on the new. i was raised as a lutheran and they believe the new supersedes the old while many baptists feel just the opposite<br />
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also if you compare the laws in most countries that are predominantly christian to the ten commandments you will find a striking similarity.....even adultery is a crime in some u.s. states <br />
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you simply cannot remove something that is ingrained in someones brain from birth from the equation. it will always influence their decision making to some extent

people dont listen to peacful words like that do we???????

First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me. – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)

keep religion the only place it should be in your own heart ? maybe the world would be different if we actually lived by just principle thats way easier then to a god ... maybe if we lived by principle we could understand religion ... religion :the gathering of all energies .... where how does a god come from that????

actually hedgehippie i have to take that back....i've been to Canada many times and its a beautiful country full of generally nice people

@hedgehippie i hope that never happens other than your natural resources and a few of the nicer people there is nothing in Canada that would be worth the headaches associated with controlling it LOL

we are one as like europe

my canadian friend you are not canda mexico is not mexico and we sure as heck (never have been?) the usa? maybe

do you know what and who the word AMEN is and came from .... you are saying christian prayers to a pagan god(eygpt) wow ... meanings of words people

who cares what they are called when are you people going to awake up ... look at whats going on ... we live disorderly lives therefore we live in a disordered world!!!!! right???? maybe? look up the true meanings of words and languages .... if you want ... or you can let me know how all this back and forth stuff helps anyone anything but ego????!!!! i dont know maybe ... maybe you are so scared of the truth because you would have to admit (everyone of us) that all this is a lie and you have hated ... killed ... stole ... hurt .. .. should i go? can we really as mankind(all) put aside all our personal divisions (anything that separates anything) and live love grow as one ... or will the ego always rule your mind??? we must start thinking together on all this stuff.right????

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They were Deists, not Christians.

none of them were/are christians ... do you people know who bacon is??????? someone please look up bacon .... the answer has a chance of being there? maybe?

C'mon Hedgehippie hasn't your latest President Socialised Debt?