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Ten Cliches Christians Should Never Use- Part 2

By: WilliamC
Written on August 6th, 2012
By: WilliamC
Age: 61-65 , Male
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    conceptualclarity

    I'm surprised you posted this. This guy is clearly a liberal who wants to water down if not eliminate the church's opposition to a certain sin. I find his assertions deeply deplorable and very disrespectful of the Bible,. I'll get back to specifying my objections later.



    "the Bible isn’t “clear” about much." That is rank heresy. I would have to say I get the clear impression Christian Piatt is a religious liberal and not a genuine Christian.

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    stuwebb2

    amen

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    Army0917

    Oh, lots of thoughts here as well, and now that I'm not missing who they are from, there won't be any misunderstanding on my part.



    1.) Love the sinner, hate the sin.

    - I don't see the issue here. Are we to love the sin? Are we to hate sinners? Does God love sin? In Leviticus and 1 Peter we are told to be holy for God is holy. God loves man but hates sin. Even Christ condemned sin in the flesh while at the same time loving the lost.



    2.) The Bible clearly says…

    - I'm sorry, but the Bible is very clear on several things. And in 2 Timothy 2:15 Paul says to "study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." You don't have to be a scholar or whatever. The Holy Spirit moving in the life of a layman Christian is more powerful than a doctorate in theology held by a lost man. 1 Corinthians 2:14 says "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." God doesn't need a doctorate to teach someone what the Bible clearly says.



    3.) God needed another angel in heaven, so He called him/her home.

    - I'll agree with him here. But I'll also add that this is misleading because humans don't become angels. Angels were a separate creation.



    4.) Are you saved?

    - I'll agree only in the sense that this is a really vague question. Reaching someone for Christ is vital and why the church exists, but there are better ways to word it, such as "have you called upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ?" I'm sure there are other ways to bring this up, but it still needs to be addressed. Similar wording is found in Paul's epistles. Once again, Christ himself commanded us to preach the gospel, it's not that we are better than them.



    5.) The Lord never gives someone more than they can handle.

    - 1 Corinthians 10:13 "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."



    Not everything in life is a trial sent by God. Some are the consequences of our own actions. The Holy Spirit is not giving me the liberty to give any examples other than scripture. So I will quote 1 Peter 3:13-17



    "And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good? But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience that, whereas they speak evil of you , as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing."



    That's all the liberty I'm given here.



    6.) America was founded as a Christian nation.

    - This country was founded on Biblical principles nonetheless and there are several quotes concerning the importance of the Bible in regards to leadership and daily living.



    7.) The Bible says it; I believe it; that settles it.

    - I don't know what his final authority is, but my authority is the Bible. The Bible may have been penned by men, but it was inspired by the Holy Spirit as he directed the men of the Old and New Testaments to write what he wanted them to write. Considering that I hold the word of God higher than the words of men, I will stand behind the scriptures and believe them without apology.



    8.) It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

    - I'm sorry, but the argument used to fight this is pretty stupid. In Genesis 5:4 the Bible records that Adam and Eve had "sons and daughters". Of course the children would have married. Even Sarah was Abraham's half sister (Genesis 20:12). ****** was not forbidden until the book of Leviticus. Sorry, he's on his own there. This isn't moral blindness, it's looking at the history recorded in the Bible, nothing more, nothing less.



    9.) Jesus was a Democrat/Republican.

    - I have nothing to say here. I'm actually glad I've never been involved in that debate.....



    10.) (Insert sin here) is an abomination in the eyes of God.

    - The word translated as "abomination" in the Old Testament is "tow`ebah" and it means: "properly, something disgusting (morally), i.e. (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol"



    God doesn't need anyone's permission to call something the way he sees it. As a holy and righteous God who is separate from sin, only he can make those judgments. If the Bible records that something is an abomination, then that settles it, in the appropriate context. Obviously some Old Testament abominations are not abominations in the New Testament, i.e. food restrictions, but that doesn't apply to everything.

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      WilliamC

      Amen

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      If you look at the food passages in the Pentateuch, they are addressed to "the sons of Israel" and they say "shall be an abomination TO YOU" (emphasis added). This is in regard to foods that were permitted to Noah and his descendants in Genesis. The food passages do not say "is an abomination to the Lord" as in the passages about sexual sins.

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      Army0917

      Interesting, I don't think I noticed that before. I'll have to check it out, thanks.

      Aug 7, 2012
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