Struggling And Would Like Prayer

I am trying to understand Rom 8:1-5 The Apostle Paul said he laboured in prayer for Christians to understand all that the Gospel of Jesus was about.

I do not understand what scripture means when Paul states the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ had set him free from the Law of Sin and Death or how to enter into God's Rest

I think a lot of my "Christian" life was by my efforts and not of the Lord. That is rather sad after 35yrs of trying to live for Christ

Thank You
growinglife growinglife
56-60, M
5 Responses Sep 21, 2012

I wanted to thank those who are praying for me. It makes a tangible difference

"THE SPIRIT OF.LIFE IN CHRIST" is an unexplainable feeling. It is when you see or live life without sin. BEAUTIFUL.
"THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH" is what the world is. DEATH: we live to die
SIN: we all live to sin. It is our choice to change. " GOD'S REST" is peace within. Internally and Externally. God Bless You.

As Paul immediately goes on to explain, there is “no condemnation” for the Christian because God has condemned sin in the flesh by sending his own Son (8:3) to pay the penalty for sin through his death on the cross. The following verses then show that indwelling sin is overcome through the power of the indwelling Spirit, with ten references to the Spirit in vv. 4–11.
The evidence that believers are in Christ is that the power of sin has been broken in their lives by the work of the Holy Spirit. Law in both instances means principle.
The law (in this instance, the Mosaic law) could not solve humanity’s problem because sin employs the law for its own purposes, as ch. 7 explained. God sent his Son as a sacrifice for sin (an idiomatic phrase designating a sin offering) and paid the full penalty for sin in his sacrifice (condemned sin). In the flesh refers to Christ’s body, and in the likeness of sinful flesh means that Jesus became fully human, even though he was sinless.
righteous requirement of the law … fulfilled. This could mean the requirement is fulfilled in the new life that Christians live on the basis of Christ’s work, or it may refer to the full penalty of the law being met at the cross.

My struggle has been trying to understand how to rest in the power of the indwelling Spirit instead of my efforts in overcoming sin. Thank you for the input and Thank You to all who are praying for me

Indeed salvation is by grace alone:

“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.”

- Ephesians 2:8-10

A person who believes he is saved apart from grace alone, (that is if it includes good works, or effort as you say) is not truly saved. Only through the death upon that cross and shedding of the blood of the Son of God, Jesus Christ, and his Resurrection are we saved. The reason why Jesus Christ died for us is because man is powerless to save himself. If it were not so, Christ died for nothing.

"Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified."

- Galatians 2:16

"You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ"

- Galatians 5:4

The unregenerate person cannot do good (in God's eyes, not men's). This is because man is a slave to sin through Adam's fall, and is bound to the law of sin and death in Romans 8. When a person is regenerated (Titus 3:5-6), by repenting (changing of the mind/heart, NOT stop sinning - although the desire to), and believing unto the Lord Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they receive the Holy Spirit and are now are under the law of the Spirit as well. Do not mistake this to mean Christians can no longer sin - there is a constant war between the old sinful nature and that of the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, if salvation cannot be earned, then how can it be lost based on lack of works? But we do know that someone who is truly regenerated is a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17). If this person never changes after being saved, never produces fruit, is comfortable or indifferent about sin just as they were before, or "falls away" from faith (which CANNOT happen to a regenerate person being bound to the law of the Spirit of Life) then there is great doubt if they were ever truly saved.

It is also important to note that to be able to repent is the work of the Holy Spirit, not simply an intellectual assent to the gospel therefore prayer for the work of the Spirit (God) is necessary (not necessarily a "formal" prayer, even speaking one's thoughts to God counts):

"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are FOOLISHNESS TO HIM, and he CANNOT UNDERSTAND THEM, because they are spiritually discerned."

- 1 Corinthians 2:14

"I think a lot of my "Christian" life was by my efforts and not of the Lord. That is rather sad after 35yrs of trying to live for Christ".

Indeed it is sad, because so many people believed themselves saved when they are not. There are many "gospels" being preached, but only the true Gospel of the scriptures can save. Do not be deceived by false gospels, there is too much at stake. Do not trust the words of a man alone - not even mine - instead read the scriptures and pray to see if what I say is true. However, I believe it is good that you recognized you never accepted the true gospel or saw the true condition of the sinful man whom can never justify himself with good works before a holy God. I have observed the longer the period a person has been a "Christian", the harder it is to persuade them that they are perishing. Many people are "Christians" for different reasons - some because they were brought up in a Christian family, some for prosperity, some to get to heaven, some because they believe it makes them a loving/tolerant person, some to be a "good person"/morality, some for social and community reasons. But only the person who has been convicted by the Holy Spirit of their sins, and has the desire/will/heart to turn away AND (there are some who are grieved by sin but did not accept the Jesus) accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior is saved. But bless God his Spirit has revealed this to you.

Though I said believing is a supernatural work of the Spirit, and not merely an intellectual assent/decision by a man - do not despair - Call out to God from your heart for however long it may take and He will save you:

"All those the Father gives me will come to me, and WHOEVER COMES TO ME I WILL NEVER DRIVE AWAY."

- John 6:37

I sincerely hope and pray that you can soon truly turn to Christ Jesus.

To God be all glory.


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