If a Christian is talking to a non believer and you find out they have committed the unforgivable sin, do you try and save them anyway or just give up? I'm not asking to antagonize, I am genuinely curious as to what you would do in that situation.
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Ezekiel 33,7-9
‘When you hear a word from my mouth, warn them in my name.
If I say to a wicked man: Wicked wretch, you are to die, and you do NOT speak to warn the wicked man to renounce his ways, then he shall die for his sin, but I will hold you responsible for his death.
If, however, you do warn a wicked man to renounce his ways and repent, and he does not repent, then he shall die for his sin, but you yourself will have saved your life.

What a ******* load of pseud religious crap.

What a load of bollocks. Sad, really. It does, however, explain why there are so many incompetent arse in this world who have no respect for religious belief which belief is not "christian". Remember the Florida vicar who burnt the Quran. What a ****.

In answer to your request to explain further: I think 75parrows below answers it quite well. In Mark 3 verse 22 we see that it was the scribes who were saying that Jesus was doing this by the spirit of the devil. Jesus was saying these people - the scribes - could not be saved or had committed the unforgivable sin as they KNEW the truth as they studied the bible - yet they accused Him (Jesus) of doing this by the power of the devil. As I wrote before - with knowledge and the knowing of right and wrong comes a greater ability to sin and in this case be damned.
I think that generally its not easy to committ this sin so I would not talk to unsaved people about it but rather the love of God. If they know who Jesus is and what He can do then they are like the scribes and damn themselves with total knowledge.

what do you think of as the unforgivable sin when you pose your question?

Mark 3:22-30 is why I am referring to.

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit, saying that an action, or miracle, performed by he Holy Ghost was performed by the power of satan is said by Jesus to never be forgiven.

just absolute bollocks....so if I convert from christianity to muslim, that's ok.. if I say there were no ******* miracles, just **** heads on dope, that's ok...

why do people believe this crap? all it does is to foster division, ultimately cause war...

That explanation isn't the whole story. Take a look at my (lengthy) explanation.

why...you're just another pathetic god botherer. Get a life...take responsibility for your own actions

Why comment at all if you want to be like this? You are not answering anything. I don't go and comment on topics I'm not interested in!

It's alot more complex than that.... I think my answer a day ago answered this in the right direction. What you write above is forgivable.... you are missing the point of what Jesus was saying.

I'm not looking for forgiveness...the very notion that you are somehow ready to-or able to-forgive suggests you think you are able to judge me and others for the choices we make and take control of our lives rather than live by pathetic religious dictat.

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The "unforgivable sin" is poorly understood. There are six sins against the Holy Spirit: despair, presumption, envy of another's spiritual good, final impenitence, obstinacy in sin and resisting the known truth. Only God knows what is truly in the depths of the human heart, and it is not for us to judge whether someone is in such a state. While there is life, there is always hope.

This can be a little difficult to answer, since there may be differing opinions and interpretations by some Christians here. I feel like it's poorly explained by most pastors.
There are some Christians who believe the "unforgivable sin" is vocally denying the existence of the God / Holy Spirit.
But this isn't enough -- it isn't a one-time offense. It requires first knowing God's Word, then actively and continuously choosing to reject and deny it. At the point of death, the rejection of God is so complete, that forgiveness is no longer possible.
Here's more of 'why'. In the context of Jesus' words, he was partly referring to the Pharisee Jews. These people listened to Jesus' teachings, witnessed his miracles, and still vehemently rejected his words. Many of them still continued to reject Jesus' message after he was raised to life and seen in-person around Jerusalem.
A great thing to keep in mind is the Apostle Paul. He had (as Saul) persecuted and killed Christians, and probably insulted Jesus and the gospel message. And yet, God turned him into the greatest evangelist of the early church. Paul still described himself as "the worst of sinners", but he was forgiven for all of that.
So, if a friend has at any time rejected God's Word, insulted the Holy Spirit, or made fun of the scripture -- don't worry. God is able to forgive any sin, including any doubt, including any mistaken words and actions.
A person who realizes their wrong-doing, repents before God, and believes in Jesus will be saved. No matter what. Jesus promised that.
If a friend knows God's Word and continues to reject, deny, and actively oppose God, there is always a chance that God (the Holy Spirit) will change their hearts.
It is always up to God to judge whether the "unforgivable sin" has been committed. Not any Christian. So, a Christian should not give up or simply "cut all contact" with these people. That's unfair. All people, even Christians, screw up. Even if that person says every day that they reject God, that's not the end. Some day, they might change their minds, seek God, and want a Christian friend to help them.

I'm pretty sure the unforgivable sin your talking about is when they say God doesn't exist or whatever, right? If it is then they decided that they want proof on God's existence, and there never will be 100% proof until judgement day. They will not change no matter what you say so there really isn't a point in continuing the conversation. Here 2 Timothy 2:23-24
"Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful."

Proverbs 29:9 "If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet."

One more Proverbs 27:22 "Though you grind a fool in a mortar, grinding them like grain with a pestle, you will not remove their folly from them."

I give up. A person who has committed the unforgivable sin cannot be saved. Also we do not save anyone. The Holy Spirit Works through us to save people when we give the message of Jesus to others.

PS: Make sure you know what the unforgivable sin actually is. Read the Gospel and find out where Jesus identified it..

just as my pastor says "all sins are just sins" just because someone murdered and someone curses theres not one less worse then another there both sins and God will forgive anyone as long as you repent and forgive your sins. dont give up if you give up the sinner will give up also all Christians have a job in life and that is to save peoples life before to late.

As a Christian, you can not save them. Only God can. The only thing you can provide them is resources and support.

Love everyone, no matter what. Give it to God in prayer. He knows best.

Only God can judge what is unforgivable. The one God makes all the rules

And in answer to the question you asked. I would possibly warn them gently but sternly - "Don't judge what you don't understand" is what I have said before. Or if they are just evil leave them alone as they know what they are saying.


Why the caps dude. Have some maturity!

Lol why do people define caps or not means something - if the mind is flexable enough - it is just words in capitals - does not define my out expression , words will be words unless I say something mean or I shout at you in person - but my hands hit the caps and was hurrying the message b4 I realized - assuming is not leading - I did not mean anything bad by typing this - so cut down the hero act dude

Caps means yelling at someone. It is disrespectful.

We are going to see your post. Most people that use caps lock solely do it to A: be disrespectful. Or B: to be a center of attention.

Have some respect. And seeing how your opening statement was about how people speak to you about your use of caps. Well isn't it time to know and understand that caps to define the word. You have no reason to yell.

So please be mature and stop with the caps.

i am not yelling man, i just told you it was an accident , i just type how my fingers hit the keys , cause im typing fast - does not mean you cant understand - look a cup can be used for many things - put water , sow a seed with some dirt in it - caps does not mean it has to be loud - there are could be many reasons for caps , i just said it again why.

OK well I'm telling you the number one key reason that is a whole sent ice or in your case paragraph is in caps. Its implied as yelling.

Not just in the internet world but real life also. We all learn this in grade school. Making it very common knowledge.

But if you want to keep arguing the point. Than let's report you to EP. If they remove your post and or issue you a warning your know why? Unless your going to be mature and understand that caps are first seen as yelling.

You can also google that.

did i not say it was a mistake? report me man - with this kind of attitude , I dont need to be here

I seen excuses. Not apologies. The attitude my friend is solely yours.

And as you indicated. More than one person has pointed this out.

oh and go google " no common sense " and lean about your self for a being robot about the situation - there you can report me now - for something offending i have said - you are one person with no reason or sense about things - ok burn me for a mistake - but be careful when your turn comes and god deals with ya.

oh , i now get it, its a team on my trail here , lol , you all cant beat me in real life - so enjoy being a chat hero , im done with this crap for now .

You sure have good grammar for typing so fast... just saying...

lol, i was on a thread before , must have hit the caps and came straight to this one - did not pay attention to the lettering, but more the message , you guys sure make a deal out of something so little , any way there are lots of people sex talking on news feed , how come you all dont go do something about that? it worse than this

Pshh... "My hand accidentally hit the caps button" yeah. Right.

so does saying something of advice in words ( good words in caps ) is shouting , you people need help

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If they made that kind of comment I would just mind my own business. I think the problem with some Christians (not saying you), is that they worry so much about the sins that the next person is committing that they forget to work on themselves.

Do you know what the unforgivable sin is?
Most people don't understand what it is.

There are differing opinions on it. From a biblical perspective based on scripture, it is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Specifically, claiming that an action performed by the Holy Spirit was an actions performed by the power of satan. As per Mark 3

I see what you mean here. From what I understand its mocking or blaspheming the Holy Spirit or what He does when you understand that it is the Holy Spirit (or God) that was doing it. In other words you know it God ( and He exists) and you don't care and furthermore you have disstain for Him.
And that would make sense as once you understand that it is God there is no greater power or love that you can turn too.
If someone does not know its the Holy Spirit or God doing the miracule, and they had always been taught that all super natural activity was evil - it seems very hard to say the person has no chance of forgiveness if they were to utter a judgemental word about the event. I remember reading somewhere where the bible said that when people know they were doing wrong it was sin, and where they did not - it wasn't.
Personally, I think its difficult for an unsaved person to commit the unforgivable sin as most don't have knowledge either to know what they are talking about.
I think Mark 3 lacks alot of context that would make understanding it easier. We don't know who said it and about what, and with what spirit.

I think its about mocking the power of God which is always involving the Holy Spirit......

So really there would be very few people who could even truly comment this sin you think?

That's what I was trying to say!❤️

While that is what Mark 3 says, I think we are missing some important clarification. Perhaps Jesus refers to someone who has not repented.
And there will always be some who will never ask for forgiveness.

Consider this: If someone disrespected me (said horrible things about me) but later expressed sincere regret and asked for my forgiveness -- I would gladly grant it. Would anyone suggest that I have more mercy than God?

Maybe the confusion is the result of God knowing what will be, and man knowing what could be (but not what will be). With all of the translations, and slight changes it could be that we are equating "this person will never be forgiven" with "this person could never be forgiven".

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Do nothing

I am a Christian...I love Jesus because He first loved me...whoever accepts Jesus as their lord and saviour( because we all need to be saved from our sinful nature) and repents of their sinful nature...is forgiven, past, present and future sins!
believing right leads to living right!
So whatever sins you have committed...if you let Jesus into your heart, those sins are forgiven and you are born again with the Holy Spirit as your helper!

That isn't really helpful to the question I'm asking. Pretend you have just said exactly that to someone. Then you find out that they have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit. Something the bible says is never forgiven. If they cannot be forgiven of this sin, would you continue to teach them about god, or just leave them be since they can't be forgiven for that sin.

If they were a real believer...they would not have blasphemed!
If they are a non-believer I tell them that any sins they have committed in the past & whatever sins they are committing presently, are forgiven if they accept Jesus into their hearts.
all sinners are not forgiven unless they accept Jesus as The Lord and saviour!

Even though the bible says it will never be forgiven, you say it can be forgiven?

please tell me which verse that is...because a lot of the times we read verses without looking at the context...every prophet, pastor, priest etc and believer knows John 3: 16 and knows that when you turn to Jesus and accept Him as Lord and saviour all your sins are forgiven!
Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life!

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

For context, you can start at verse 22 of mark 3

Some bibles explain that He said this because of the people he was talking to...they were saying that He had an evil spirit in Him...
He said all these things before the cross, before judgement!
A believer knows that at the cross Jesus said to His father..."forgive them father, for they know not what they do" referring to His executioners...
now tell me If He can forgive His executioners, how then can He not forgive those who blasphemed...
When He shouted "IT IS FINISHED" He was saying that the judgement was done, that the payment of our sins was made in full...All our sins were paid for at the cross...He was the ultimate sacrifice!
We are all sinners, but because of His sacrifice, all who believe in Him shall be righteous by faith to enter into God's kingdom and be in His presence!

Please do not judge every Christian on the stupidity of a few of us... I'm not saying u are. I'm just saying some. Are. Stupid.

Well if you don't believe the verse in Mark literarily means they will never have forgiveness that is a good enough answer for me. But there are some who don't believe that way.

thats why they need to go to a Church that is Jesus centred to know more...
judgement for our sins would have meant death for everyone...but Jesus paid that price with His death, He knew no sin, He did no sin, He was the perfect payment for our sins...How then can it be said that He died for all our sins except one?! that has no sense in it!

Many Jesus centered churches believe in the unforgivable sin. It was Jesus who said it was unforgivable. Some people just interpret the same story differently.

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there is no sin that is unforgivable!

Not according to the bible.

yes according to the bible...If you are a believer and trust in the Lords love for you and His forgiveness of you...you are completely forgiven
Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice...for ALL our sins, you just need to accept him into your life and all is forgiven!

The bible can be interpreted so many different ways. Even the clearest things can be turned grey.

So when Jesus said in Mark 3:29, "But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation."
He didn't actually mean they "hath never forgiveness" what did he mean then?

"In danger" that's the part theta turns it grey. I mean... It doesn't say that they will be damned for sure. It says in danger of. So there has to be some hope.

If there is still hope, then he is not truthful in saying they "hath NEVER forgiveness". It has to be one or the other. Both are not logically possible.

I know... I'm just saying that some people read it and will see one thing but others will see something different. I was just trying to show you how someone else might read it and see the opposite of what it says. To be honest I don't know what I would do. I'm not all knowing. I'm just 15. And... Neither do any of these other people really... Well. Except maybe that guy who said he would do nothing.

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Speaking as a nonbeliever, leave them alone. If they need a myth to help themselves get past what they have done, let them find it. In most cases I suspect the "unforgivable sin" you see is no big deal in their view.

I'm not sure I see what you're saying. The unforgivable sin I refer to is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Specifically saying the what is being done by the Holy Spirit is being done by satan. Of course, I personally see it as no big deal because I don't believe in god or sin or hell. But a Christian who believes in these things and believes you will unchangeably go to hell for this sin would see it as a big deal I think.

I think you have to have a certain degree of knowledge and experience to really commit it.

What sort of knowledge? Let's say somebody was speaking in tongues. As some denominations believe, when the Holy Ghost overcomes you, you sometimes speak in tongues. If I were to say they were possessed by satan and he was making them speak in tongues, I would have blasphemed the Holy Spirit right?

If you've never felt the spirit. And you deny it's existence it is different from someone who has truly felt the spirit and understood what they felt and then denying it to lead away another spirit.

As for your example... I honestly don't know exactly. I want to say yes but I have a feeling that your leading into something. So I don't know what to say to you. And I'm not a profit. But I'm doing my best. I'm trying to answer your question.

I'm sorry. That was probably really confusing. I should have worded it differently.

Is there such a thing in the Christian faith? Assuming that there is, I would still go for it. In the Bible, God can be persuaded.

You have to understand that in heaven there is no such thing as time. So it is impossible to persuade god because he already knew what u would say before u said it. If there's no time than there is no change. There's no before and after. Therefore he can't think one thing before you say something and than think another afterward.

Am I making any sense?

Persuasion is change. Change is time. There is no time in heaven. So god can't be persuaded.

If there is no time. Logic falls apart.

Science is logic. We will never be able to prove god with science or logic. Because it's bigger than what we can understand. We could never truly comprehend how the universe started. We are specks. How could we ever expect to understand something so big using only what we can see. And hear and touch. How? It's bigger than time. It's bigger than logic. It's bigger... Than. Human.

This idea does not work. God HAS been persuaded before.

Genesis 18:26-33

It can be interpreted in different ways. The way we use the word persuaded is slightly different in the bible. In fact the word has a slightly different meaning to everyone.

My idea has to work. Time does not exist in heaven. It can't. Time is an illusion. Don't you get it? This isn't "my idea" it's truth. If a heaven exists it can't have time. Think bigger than what they tell you. You can go beyond the bible. You'll see. It works. It has worked since 'the beginning of time' time had a beginning. God does not need time to exist. Get now? The bible was translated from one language to another. Not all words translate. It's not exact. But they did the best they could. And men make mistakes. The scribes who wrote it down. The men who translated it. But they are the mistakes of men. That's all. And it got changed. Every once in a while. It's not perfect. There are mistakes. But someday we will be able to see this all clearly. Not the fuzzy idea of no time. Or heaven. It's fuzz right now for me. But... Everyday I see things a little clearer. And I'm still learning. To see through the grey. Anyone can. You just have to look through it.

"My idea has to work" that's the problem with the Bible. You can't just say a passage means something out of necessity or else the book as a whole doesn't makes sense together. There is also the option that it means what it says, and it just doesn't make sense together. Which is likely in my opinion, seeing as I don't believe it is true. You can't decide what a verse means out if necessity or to make it more comfortable. There has to be a textual, non biased reason to think it men's what it does.
But God is persuaded in the Bible and changes his intended course of action several times based on the croons of man.
Exodus 32:14 "And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people."
Jeremiah 18:8 "I [God] will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them."
Jonah 3:10 "God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them."
Amos 7:3,6 "The Lord repented for this."
And again in 1 Samuel 15:11,35; 2 Samuel 24:16; 1 Chronicles 21:15; Isaiah 38:1-5; Jeremiah 15:6; and Jeremiah 42:10

If heaven exists. It can't have time. Not many people can understand that. I didn't really expect u to either. You. Think like an atheist. That's not a insult. Just an observation. You. Don't know what your talking about. If you can't see beyond the books. That's your problem. Not mine. But someday. We are all going to be gone. Dead. Buried. And that's when you'll realize. You don't really know god. You only know about him. The things you've read about in your book. Won't matter. God never "changed his mind" he waited until those people to show him they were ready. Because we humans. Think in time. Now... I'm not on here to bible bash. No matter what you say. I'm not going to change my mind. Because I already know what I believe. You... can believe what you want. For now. But u can't think in time forever.

I understand that IF heaven exists it doesn't have time. But there is no reason to think it does. The only reason anybody knows anything about heaven is by what is written in the book that said god changed his mind. You sound very sure that I will realize how wrong I am when I die. And it says a lot that you admit you have already decided what you believe and nothing will change it. That just goes to show it isn't based on evidence and that you bend new information to make it fit into your preconceived worldview. That is not a reliable way to obtain truth.

Yeah. I've decided what I believe. Why are u making that into a bad thing? What we believe. That defines us. I know who I am. And I... Have seen miracles. I have seen lives transformed. By truth. I've felt it. And I can't ignore that. You say I have have no reason to believe in what I do. But I have every reason to believe it. Who are we to think that man can solve every mystery of the universe. You and me.... We're specks. The universe is a big place. Bigger than our minds could ever comprehend. And I know. That there is a god out there. I know it. And god knows that I know it. And I can not deny it. You must think I'm crazy. How can I possibly believe in something I can't see. But all the logic in the world can't change what I've felt. I see gods hand in my life daily. And it's real. He is not imaginary. And it kills me. When I can't change everyone's mind. Because I know the truth. I know who I am. I am a daughter of god. I feel his love for me. He created me. Life comes from life. Not from dust. And I know I'm young. But I'm going to stick to what I believe. I'm not going to give in. Ever. You don't understand. My faith isn't based on facts. Or evidence. It's stronger than that. Its something else. Despite all the crazy evidence my church has. I am more than that. The evidence. Won't convince a turtle that god lives. Not to mention an atheist. If my faith were based on facts it would of died a long time ago. I'm not going to try and push my faith on you. I know I probably won't win this one. So... agree to disagree I guess:)

Okay. Well obviously I think you are incorrect every time you say you know the truth. But I understand you think you have good reasons for believing. Otherwise you wouldn't believe. When you say your views aren't based on evidence, but something stronger, what you are talking about is a "feeling". No matter how strong, feelings rarely represent truth, and they are not "stronger than evidence."

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Leanna. If your a Christian than you know you can't judge another man women or child. The only one that can judge them is our lord and savoir!

Lastly, god is good. Not evil. Thru his only begotten son are we saved, for we are all sinners. Including you!

I am not a Christian actually, but I wasn't intending to mean you would judge them. I am referring to a scenario in which a person has admittedly blasphemed the Holy Spirit, which the bible says is unforgivable. I suppose I should have been more specific. I was asking, if a person has done this and can't be forgiven, would you try and lead them to God anyway?

All asked of sin in the new testimony is forgiven. Only in the old testimony is that act unforgiven!. And even thou. God did say, "father forgive this roman, for he knows not what he does, but follows that order of his generals" and god said apon him. Thru you he shall be saved.

So yes! Even the unforgiven is forgiven.

But to answer your question. It is not the will or the job of the sheep to lead other sheep to the Sheppard. If they wish to follow let them no matter what harm they have caused!

Well most Christians would agree that it is the duty of Christians, the disciples of Jesus, to go forth and make disciples out of all the nations. That is pretty explicitly a command to try and lead people to Jesus. Or sheep to shepherd if we are sticking with the analogy.

I don't believe in god. I'm not asking because I need advice or something. I just wondered, from the Christian perspective, what actions you would take in a scenario like this. It has nothing to do with judging.

Than Leanna. Its hard to explain to you that your question as a whole is wrong. As what I am telling you. Thru Jesus Christ or lord and savoir and that the begotten son of our god. Are we forgiven or ALL sin, and thus saved.

So you can sit there and hate on god or Satan or mother Mary all you want. At any given time you decide to repeat your be fine.

No where's in the bible does it say it is our requirement to go out and have people flock to god. There are times in the bible where it says we should help those in need to find god. But it doesn't say we are in trouble if we don't.

Those that are true believers tend to go about they day as the score is written and nothing more or less. But those that go around saying they are going to hell if they don't believe in god. Have no true sense of what god is about. And are actually commuting one of the biggest sins around.

Remember, we don't judge, or advocate. That's his job to see to us. We may help if we see fit. But in the end, he makes the final call.

I do not intend to hate on any character or person in your religion. If you do not believe you are required to preach and bring people to god as a part of your religion then this question does not apply to you. There are those who do believe it though, and they are who my question is addressing.

... Your having a hard time understanding what I said.

Yes I may break people to god. But I can't force them to!

I understand that. When I say lead them to god, I don't mean drag them all the way to the baptismal pool. I mean telling people about god, teaching them and being an example, stuff like that. It is impossible to force anyone to believe in God, let alone become a "born again Christian". I am aware of that.

OK than yes. All Christians do that out of respect. And half the people we try to help. Are those that commit this sin you speak of.

Thus to answer your question. We may help them find god. And if they choose him than thru Jesus Christ they are saved. God is good and forgiven. I've not heard of cases where he has condamned man. Have you.

Just the one Jesus spoke of in Mark 3:28-29.

In that case let's speak of john when he tells us that man shall die, and not live this world for enertity

I think there are some typos there. I'm not sure what you intended to say.

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I respect what you believe talk to me if you need someone ill be here

I don't think it would be upto any1 to save another because that salvation comes from your relationship with God. Indeed to forgive is the ultimate in what we should hope to achieve in life. Aside from the texts of the bible and forsaking what we don't know as man's words or God's, Jesus to me is the only thing "Christians" should look for guidance. He's hope for us was to forgive others n love one another. It's that simple. No man has the right to instil fear on another by saying u are a sinner. Life is a journey of experience. We learn from them Inorder to know right from wrong, or rather have a comparison for without one how can we know the other

I am a Christian, and I believe those scriptures are referring to those who have been taught about The Lord and still say He is not who He is. For those who have not been in the church or have been brought up in other religions such a Hinduism and Judaism and such, are, in my opinion, exempt. But The Lord also said in the bible that everyone will get the chance to know and learn his ways. Everyone. He continually sends his disciples to those who are lost in order to save them from eternal damnation. The only people who are completely exempt are children 13 and under because they are no longer under the covering of their parents and must take responsibility for what they believe in.

That's an interesting interpretation.

I grew up in the church. I am non denominational so I've heard and read it all.

I grew up in a nondenominational church too. I have read it all too, but my church taught something different.

I don't think a God whom we know as all love and nothing else would condemn his children to sum eternal fire. God has shorn infinite mercy to humans time n time again, even when we crucified him/his son. Yet we are still here. To me this story is also saying to us, look you even killed my spirit on earth, my son, my human form on earth... Yet I love u more then myself and have forgiven u...

That's the ultimate in God...

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What's the unforgivable sin?

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

But if he/she ask forgiveness?

I'm not religious but I believe any sin is forgivable

Well I was just going off what the bible says. Since it says whoever does this never has forgiveness I figured it actually meant that the person could never have forgiveness.

Well if you continually do that and never seen forgiveness then yes of course but why would He also say to seek forgiveness and accept Him in your heart.

God's forgiveness is limitless. Truly being sorry is forgiveness in itself. Jesus himself asked his father to forgive us, even after we crucified him. And as Jesus and God are Infact one (Jesus being God's human form on earth), It's like saying God is forgiving us for killing him . Now that's a pretty big sin to forgive I reckon. That's how much I guess we're loved by the one upstairs :))

It says "in danger of eternal damnation" not for sure damnation. There has to be some hope.

I don't know. I just wondered what what the Christian opinion was on such a situation. I feel as though to say that if you ask for forgiveness you will get it directly contradicts what the Bible plainly says. It says "never hath forgiveness" not "eventually hath forgiveness if one asks for it". It seems that would make the entire passage irrelevant and untruthful.
But, I digress. So you believe that a person can be forgiven even if they have, in the past, blasphemed against the Holy Ghost, so a Christian should still try to lead them to Christ? That's all I wondered. Thank you for taking the time to respond :)

I believe if a person continually sins intentionally against God than yes they'll prolly go to hell but we all sin. I believe if you truly ask forgiveness He will grant it to you. I am by no means religious or saved even so my opinion may mean nothing but it's just my opinion. I know quite a bit about the bible an all but like I say I have my one problems so one may argue I'm wrong an it's ok :)

I am not interested in evaluating how right or wrongness your response is :) I just wanted to know your opinion on the matter. I appreciate you sharing with me.


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Every sin is forgivable. I think you do what God is telling you to.

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.