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5-Year Old Raped, New Fatwa Established



This is only one story, one girl – only a grain in the entirety of Saudi Arabia's oppressive treatment many girls and women endure every day. Her story is emerging only because she didn't survive.

She is one of many who will not be able to ever escape the cyclic abuse.
Lamia Al-Ghamdi, a 5-year old, was brutally raped and tortured by her father, and was then taken to the hospital for a “virginity check.” The hospital noticed the marks on her body, and knew what had happened. She suffered multiple injuries, seizures, a crushed skull, suffered broken ribs, extensive burns and bruises, and that after raping her multiple times, her father burned her rectum--in an attempt close it.

His punishment for this disgusting crime was to cough up blood money to the child’s mother. He barely served a year, and is now a free man, a ‘religious’ man who has changed in a society where a man with the longest beard is deemed the most pious.  

Today, a Saudi cleric Sheikh Abdullah Daoud has asked parents to make headscarves and burkas obligatory for their female children, beginning at infancy. By making this a fatwa (part of the official Islamic law/shariah) he insists it will be the first step in eliminating sexual exploitation of children. There was a back-lash in the community (surprisingly!) in response to this fatwa, saying that following this law would “make Islam look bad.”
The superficiality of the community’s response is repulsive and sad reminder of what the women of Saudi Arabia must face every day. Please, if you are reading this, say something about it in your community, stand up. If there is a protest, be it online or in your neighborhood or city, I ask of you to stand up as a collective voice against this crime, and Saudi Arabia’s treatment of women.

People burn a Qur’an, and they are met with death threats.
A man burns the rectum of his daughter to close it shut after raping her, torturing her, crushing her skull, causing seizures, killing her, and he is met with freedom, forgiveness, and support.
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This was very difficult to read. Thank you for sharing the reality of how life is for some people in this world. I have no words...

Making Islam look bad! LOL. As if!

Muslims disgust me with their twisted rationale and lack of compassion and justice.

For all the **** people talk about the Arabs, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are the only true ones.

Omg.. :/ why won't they go back to the age before Islam and bury their daughters alive just like what used to happen! What the **** is all that! When are they going to learn!! I am glad my sisters and my future daughter/daughters and even sons are away from all this. Seriously you all should see how we treat women here in Egypt. A guy like that ******* here in Egypt would have got a life sentence or atleast 75 years in prison!! And yes we are Muslims too I mean real Muslims. What's going on in SA isn't Islam! What the hell are they doing! And what ****** me off more is besides all that they try to convince us that Europe is the "evil" countries and that the Jews are bad! Is that why they have a single bank, currency and army?! I can see who is the real devil now!

It's actually good that this little angel isn't here anymore to see more suffering! She has a beautiful and sweet place now away from all this crap. She is safe now. May God bless her always.

Yeah. Throw Bahrain into that too.

Yes, everybody is involved dude.

It is terrible, but in the end to change it what would one have to do?
Do You believe signing an online petition or talking about it on a non-saudi forum can influence the people living there?
How much percent of the population there oppose this?
How politically strong and influential is that part of the population in comparison to those that have nothing against it or don't care?

Is a bloody revolution required for it to change? Is there some foreign power (USA? UN?) that cares and is able to influence it? How? Should there be a military intervention, is it preferable and is it possible concerning international relations. Would e.g. Russia, China, etc. allow USA to intervene.

If there was no revolution and people would try to gradually evolve in their morals and political influence, how many abused generations would it take before something changes? 50 years 100 years? 200 years?

Hundreds of questions. What's left is mostly helplessness.

"Do You believe signing an online petition or talking about it on a non-saudi forum can influence the people living there?"

I believe little steps, a gradual progression into the right direction would be most effective. We can try to convince a society about different ideas, and sure may actually change superficially for a little bit of time, but the change will be unsustainable if it is swift. There needs to be a good supportive base, a collective voice who want the change. There are people from Saudi Arabia who are on EP, perhaps my thoughts have reached their's and from there the ideas and thoughts may spread from person to person. Maybe not...

"How much percent of the population there oppose this?"

-It's difficult to say - the biggest issue is, we don't know how many people oppose SA's government or decisions, but are unable to speak out against it whether it be on a micro or macro level.


"How politically strong and influential is that part of the population in comparison to those that have nothing against it or don't care?"

- Yup... those with the money have the power, and have the funds to spread ideas, laws and so on as they wish. =/

"If there was no revolution and people would try to gradually evolve in their morals and political influence, how many abused generations would it take before something changes? 50 years 100 years? 200 years?"

- I believe it would take a good 50 years. Realistically 100. But it would be a viable, permanent change. A revolution seems almost impossible given the huge disparity in power and access to money and support among the people....unless another country interfered to support the weaker revolutionary voice, but that would have a dangerous ripple effect in the middle east and the west.

"Hundreds of questions. What's left is mostly helplessness."
So true bluezy =(

My heart weeps for this little girl. This precious, priceless little sweetheart whose only crime is to have been born to a MONSTER.
I try to speak out on a daily basis whenever i see cruelty or misogyny. I consider speaking out against the abuses of women's rights my obligation as a woman.
Are there any women's rights groups in Saudi Arabia?

Thanks Plowjocky,
It is disgraceful the way women and girls are treated in that part of the world.
You are a good and decent man as is apparent by your caring actions towards the female Lt.

there have been reports of peaceful demonstrators/protesters attempting to implement some sort of change in SA. They were jailed due to newly established laws preventing such freedoms of expression. Maybe I'm wrong.. .maybe there needs to be a swift revolution... but it would be a bloody imbalanced war because of the disparity of power.

Labyrinthlife is right.
Her statement:"People burn a Qur’an, and they are met with death threats. A man burns the rectum of his daughter to close it shut after raping her, torturing her, crushing her skull, causing seizures, killing her, and he is met with freedom, forgiveness, and support."
Clearly this states the verity to your bigotry on Islam. And I had missed that important part. Misinformation is one thing, but defaming without really knowing what you are defaming is just dangerous. Children are being killed in Syria like animals, raped, burned alive, tortured by Israel, giving them no rights, treated like dogs. Truly that is something much more that you could really focus on if you are really 'concerned' about children being raped. There is a consensus that I would adhere to in believing that there really is a heart and soul behind these words that have been imbedded if not for your statement above.
Why don't you then - ''ask' people to stand up as a collective voice against the crimes of the Israeli's treatment of all 'men', 'women' AND 'children'." Condemning Saudi Arabia because of a single wretched person does not even make sense, unless someone has really got something against it, clearly. Unless you rephrase, then statements like yours I am sorry to say are only but fragments and shards of pity encompassed by hate. Or am I wrong? Please explain.
I am sorry if I don't understand. But maybe also you lack of understanding of what you are saying, and sorries frankly comes in many forms, real or not. I will not furthermore try to defend Islam or Saudi Arabia in this affair and plot. For I have no need to in seeing the truth in this current matter at hand. I am but a man still lacking wisdom. But I can tell you this - 'Wisdom' in its greatest form will be materialised if not now but soon, and it is a matter of catching the ship by its sails - if you are on, than you are safe, but if you are off, than in the hands of God do we lay. And surely, Miss or Mrs whoever you are behind this veil of a paradigm - in the hands of God is best to describe where we are, whether we 'believe' in him or 'we don't'. We were all born to die. To breathe till the day we can't breathe and to open our eyes until it is closed forever. And God knows best, even when the 'best' do we hate and the 'good' we are too blind to see. And who knows - maybe this message is even mostly is for me - maybe - probably.

"People burn a Qur’an, and they are met with death threats. A man burns the rectum of his daughter to close it shut after raping her, torturing her, crushing her skull, causing seizures, killing her, and he is met with freedom, forgiveness, and support.Clearly this states the verity to your bigotry on Islam. "

- Please see my reply to Labyrinthelife's comments below. I believe Islam is a beautiful religion with beautiful followers, but that the Saudia Arabian government and many people in its society does not reflect this light found in the hearts of it's followers. I do have an issue with the fact that when someone attacks the Qur'an, there is a violent uprising, but when there is an injustice, like what happened to Lamia's father being let off easy from his crime, there is silence in Saudi Arabia. I know that Muslims in other countries have spoken out against letting Lamia's father be lightly punished for this. It doesn't mean that I believe he should be tortured or killed. I'm just in disbelief that this would actually happen. What about the people in Saudi Arabia, what if the hearts of the people really want to protest that the father is being freed so early from his term, but do not have the power to speak out against it?


"Children are being killed in Syria like animals, raped, burned alive, tortured by Israel, giving them no rights, treated like dogs. Truly that is something much more that you could really focus on if you are really 'concerned' about children being raped. There is a consensus that I would adhere to in believing that there really is a heart and soul behind these words that have been imbedded if not for your statement above."

- This story is not just about a child being raped, but the silence of a people in the face of this crime. It may be due to the fact that they do believe her father should be freed, and that he served his punishment. It may also be that those who want to speak up against this, cannot do so, because they do not have any power in society. I'm aware of the injustices around the world.

"Why don't you then - ''ask' people to stand up as a collective voice against the crimes of the Israeli's treatment of all 'men', 'women' AND 'children'.""

- Again, this story is not about another country. It is specifically about Saudi Arabia's silence. There is no need for me to tell the Palestinian people in the occupied lands to stand up against the Israeli government, because they already are standing up against them - they have a strong collective voice. Where is Saudi Arabia's strong collective voice?

"Unless you rephrase, then statements like yours I am sorry to say are only but fragments and shards of pity encompassed by hate. Or am I wrong? Please explain. "

- My heart goes out to anyone who is at the hands of an oppressive government/society. This particular incident was in Saudi Arabia. There isn't any hatred for Islam, I have much respect and awareness of its beauty. There is sadness and disbelief for the silence among the people for letting a man go free so easily after committing such a horrific crime.

"I am sorry if I don't understand. But maybe also you lack of understanding of what you are saying, and sorries frankly comes in many forms, real or not. I will not furthermore try to defend Islam or Saudi Arabia in this affair and plot. For I have no need to in seeing the truth in this current matter at hand. "

- There is no need to defend Islam, as I know that Islam and the heart of its followers are pure. But what is it that you are defending about Saudi Arabia? Are you defending the decision of the government in what they decided about Lamia's father? I will ask you as I asked labyrinthelife below -- do you believe that the prophet (s.a.w.) would agree with the government and society of Saudi Arabia today?

u dont need to defend yourself because u can't.
if you were a "genuine" upholder of women rights; why are you just added to this group? "I Am Disgusted By Saudi Arabia'S Treatment Of Women"

Is there any group here named "I Am Disgusted By France's Treatment Of Women" or "I Am Disgusted By Belgium's Treatment Of Women"
and if it is...r u added to it?..if not....you would like to create it and post a story there?

Again, read my responses. This isn't just about women's rights, it is about Saudi Arabia's silence in the face of a crime. It was created specifically after hearing about what happened to Lamia. I do have family and friends who live in Saudi Arabia, so the subject hit a nerve. I understand there are injustices occurring all over the world, this is about Saudi Arabia. I'm disgusted by the way they treat their women.

so it proves......you have nothing to do with women rights.......just pin pointing Saudi Arabia and thats all

Women's rights is a part of the issue within Saudi Arabia. No need to take it personal. If you believe that Saudi Arabia's way of governing itself and its society is great, then that's ok, you are free to have your own opinion. And I can respect that. There are good things about the society, for example, Saudi Arabia has the least amount of alcohol related death in the entire world. One of the leading causes of deaths and injury in the US is due to alcohol. But that is a different topic. I believe there needs to be changes in SA for women and for those who do not have a high socioeconomic status.

A child was murdered by her slugworm of a father and all you can focus on is some perceived bigotry to a nation FAMOUS for its oppression of women???????
What about the child?

Jane and Plowjocky, it is very frustrating

@Unnorm - what a great way to avoid the issue! Blame it all on a made-up god so you don't have to face any responsibility yourself.

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The Holy Prophet Muhammad said:
Killing of a single "human" is the killing of whole humanity

he did mention "human" ..not "muslims" only

and thats what Islam teaches...to respect lives of every human...and humanity in total

yes, but would the prophet (s.a.w.) agree with the government of Saudi Arabia today?

Nobody loving humanity will ever take side of the cruel part; whether it is the atrocities of Israel against poor palestinians, assassination of poor muslims by Serbs in Bosnia, killing of jews by Adolf Hietler, supression of Kashmiri people by Indian govt, mass murder of Rohingya people by Myanmar (Burma) govt. and so on.
One needs to open eyes instead of speaking one sided story and disseminating propaganda

So you do agree that he would not accept the Saudi Arabian government and society.
Again, this is specifically about Saudi Arabia, in reaction to what happened to Lamia. You seem to be uneasy about me criticizing Saudi Arabia, know that it is not a criticism of Islam, as I don't believe that the Saudi Arabthe government is a true reflection of what the prophet (s.a.w.) intended for this religion to be like. You said that this is a one sided story...is there a side to this particular story that you want totals about? I'm more than happy to hear if you believe that what the Saudi Arabian government did was justified and that the punishment fit the crime. Do you believe the punishment fit the crime? That would be the other side of this story. Please share your thoughts about the crime, do you agree with lamia's father's punishment?

so u think US and Britian are truly representing Jesus Christ message?
or Israel representing true image of Ibraham's saying?

No I don't believe they are representing Jesus (pbuh) or Abraham's (pbuh) teachings. But this is not about that topic. Labyrinthelife, I have answered the questions you've asked me, but you have not answered mine. Please share your thoughts...does the punishment fit the crime? Do you believe that what happened to Lamia's father was the right decison? If you were the judge of her father, what would you have changed?

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This poor little girl! my heart goes out to her family and this little angel is safe now in heaven. I have a daughter who is seven and I could not imagine the horror of the nightmare this little girl faced, I just hope that every country could force harsher punishment penalties for such an heinous crime and I also don't belive the arthor's intent was to disgrace a religion or a certain country, But to raise awareness of children and teenagers who are violently rape,assalted and killed because of goverments not inforcing harsher penalties. It's unfortunate we see this kind of filth from all over the world and still the victims through the years are slowly forgotten and the perpetrator's are never punished enough for the crime they commite against their victim.

Ok, I've read some comments, this is not the time to come together to bash Islam as it was not the author's intent. If anything, she has shed a light on what horrid injustices that girls and women go through around the world. Let's not point fingers at race, religion but to get mad as hell that something like this happened. If there is a benevolent and just force in the universe Saudi women will rise up, just like they did in India and bring down the misogynistic tyranny that's been rampant in their society for decades. Its time. We can't sit idle and not care, and say something like this will never happen to our daughter, sister, niece, etc because it can. Evil is across the board, religious and non religious, male or female, Muslim, Christian, Jew, in America, Europe, India...doesn't matter, so we need to get up and get angry no matter who you might be and put a stop to this. I really, really hope this gets MSM attention and I hope The Young Turks report this on their youtube channel. I know taking down this animal wont bring this little angel back, but maybe bringing down patriarchal society in SA will make her death seem not in vain.

agreed... the discontent and the solution needs to come from the heart of the society for it to really be effective. A subtle uprising against the misogynistic culture would be more effective than a sudden revolution which may make it vulnerable to falling back into the wrong hands. Not sure how this would happen given the lack of resources, freedoms etc.

Freedom finds a way. Hope finds a way. This little girl will be vindicated. Thank you for bringing this to our attention here.

offcourse defaming Islam was the author's intent. She says:

"People burn a Qur’an, and they are met with death threats."

isn't it showing just one side of story?...dont we expect to have the same reaction if someone burns Holy Bible or sacred Hindu scriptures?....why does she talk about Islam, Saudi Arabia only?

We talk about "Freedom of Expression" and "Freedom of Lifestyle" and when a lady, free willingly, wants to practice hijaab (veil) in France, Germany; she is threatened and killed?
Dual practices?, biased school of thoughts?

BBC News - Women in face veils detained as France enforces ban
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13031397


why din't she talk about any of those incidents before ridiculing Saudi Arabia and Islam?...
There might be/might not be any specific word against Islam in this story but the tone is overall negative

We praise this story because it is uncovering a sad incident.....but this incident is being used to portray a negative image of a whole society.

Wake up people.....
seeing just one side of story has lead us to this filthy, unsecure world. Its high time to see both sides of pictures

See, all of that is a problem- we shouldn't oppress people's right to freedom of religion and expression, but on the otherhand we shouldn't keep quiet about the way women are treated. Its only a coincidence that this happened in a strictly Muslim country, but women and girls as a whole can be abused, killed and raped anywhere and everywhere. The 16yr old in Ohio, despite what some paranoids think, the US isn't a Muslim nation. The 23yr old in India. India is a Hindu majority religion-wise. So if her post would've been about the 23yr old do you feel she would've been trying to put Hindus in a bad light? Or American men in a bad light? I'm really sad that a child had to die for this to come to a head, I feel its oppression on both sides that need to stop, oppression, misogyny and disinformation most of all. Incorrectness through disinformation that's keeping us all down in my opinion.

if she was posting on this topic..she should have covered the incidents you mentioned above..
dats what i am saying.....portraying pictures from a single angle has been creating intolerance...resulting in fundamentalism n hatred amongst communities
i like the way you have commented....but the author of this story certainly had something in mind..which speaks

"isn't it showing just one side of story?...dont we expect to have the same reaction if someone burns Holy Bible or sacred Hindu scriptures?....why does she talk about Islam, Saudi Arabia only?"

It is specific to this group. I am aware that there are injustices around the world, but in this story, I am talking about one incident in one country. This country happens to be an Islamic country, and I have much respect for Islam, and it's followers however, I disagree heavily with the Saudi Arabian government. Islam is a beautiful religion with beautiful followers, but the Saudi Arabian government does not reflect this beauty and light, this peace and freedom that is in the root of Islam. Do you agree with the Saudi Arabia's reaction to this incident? Islam was an advocate of women's rights before other religions and nations. The Saudi Arabian government does not reflect this original heart of Islam.


"BBC News - Women in face veils detained as France enforces ban"


-I've actually discussed this in my own private blog, as well as friends' blogs/stories regarding the issue. I'm against western countries enforcing such a law against women, and I am against anyone enforcing women to do something against their own personal freedoms, and then claim that it is "in the name of freedom." If a woman chooses to cover, or wear t-shirt and shorts, she should have the freedom to do so.


"why din't she talk about any of those incidents before ridiculing Saudi Arabia and Islam?..."

- Because this story is not about those incidents. This story is about how there is silence among the Saudi Arabian people in the face of a crime. The silence could be agreement, or just the fact that many people do not have the power or status to speak out against what they believe is wrong.

"There might be/might not be any specific word against Islam in this story but the tone is overall negative"

- I plan to make a note in the story for clarification purposes.

"We praise this story because it is uncovering a sad incident.....but this incident is being used to portray a negative image of a whole society."

- We can all agree that we are all saddened and upset about what happened to Lamia. Do you believe that the Saudi Arabian government's reaction and sentencing for Lamia's father was just? Do you believe that it is a reflection of the heart of the Saudi Arabian people, or rather is it a blind ruling from a group of people who have a high status in society?

so ...you are on the agenda against Saudi Arabia....and have kept your eyes closed against all odds in other countries i menioned in my other comments.

This explains everything

I believe just this story was her focus at the time, I doubt she was bashing the people of SA as a whole, because I've said that incidents like this can happen and have happened all around the world.

see my recent comment

Lessthanhero is correct in his assessment. I'm aware that there are powerless people in Saudi Arabia, for example, those who are not rich, and women. This is in no way targeting at them. It is a criticism of the Saudi Arabian government's response to Lamia's father being set free earlier than what was originally planned.

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hmm end of days are near. What can we do .our voices wont reach to the higher level.muslim umah is dommed.i m a muslim too.but my heart sheterd aftr seeing this injustice. Rapng cases are all over the world but world law cnt cntrol it.

you are one of the many Muslims who feels powerless about this

hmmm ......... we can only raise our voice but our voices cant be heard :(

see...we are discussing a specific religion... and that's all i am talking about in all my comments here

That is just EVIL. I know there are people who would torture that guy for what he had done to that very vulnerable child, they would torture him slowly so he felt all possible pain before they would kill him and put his horrible looking corpse into a public place to say NO, IT IS NOT OKAY TO RAPE CHILDREN!!!! AND WHO DOES, THAT ONE WILL SUFFER THOUSANDS OF PAINS BEFORE BEING KILLED..
But that would be just a REVENGE - STRONG PHYSICAL PUNISHMENT ENDED with DEATH. Maybe it would scare other "potential abusers off", but it would not come to the root of the cause and effect...WHY? WHY has he raped her? Only DEEPLY INSANE and IMMORAL person would do such a horrible crime. HOW to PROTECT the INNOCENT ONES from the EVIL ADULT PREDATORS?

This is a good point. Harsh repercussions, like serving longer jail time, won't necessarily prevent these crimes... but publicly forgiving someone of such a crime and releasing him back into the population surely will not prevent it either. I do not have the answers for preventing sexual exploitation of children. I believe that as parents, guardians, teachers, etc we can create a comfortable environment for children to speak to us about these situations, instead of being scared and ashamed, and completely unaware. One facial expression in mid-sentence of telling someone about sexual abuse can keep a child silent forever. Now, it's just a matter of whether the Saudi Arabian society allows a good sense of ownership/voice for children...

horrible

the way this story was portrayed is not correct.....dont we have such cases in other religions....
isn't it extremism to condemn or disrespect a religion (consisting of more than one billion followers) on the basis of a single incident?
dont we have ****** families in different areas of the world? (you can find p orn ****** movies on internet easily)

And the most important thing; if this incident is true, then the first and foremost condemnation is from the people in the same society & religion in which this happened.

Labyrinth, I didn't condemn or disrespect Islam--if there's a particular sentence which gave you that impression, please let me know so I can clarify my intentions and properly convey my thoughts. I do condemn the reaction of the Saudi Arabian government. I do condemn a society that is oppressive to women, and to those who do not fit a certain socio-economic status.

these are your wrods
"People burn a Qur’an, and they are met with death threats.
A man burns the rectum of his daughter to close it shut after raping her, torturing her, crushing her skull, causing seizures, killing her, and he is met with freedom, forgiveness, and support"
what do u expect if someone burs holy bible?.....wont there be a similar reaction?
We talk about "Freedom of expression" and "Freedom of Lifestyle" and when a lady, freewillingly, wants to wear a hijaab (veil) in France or Germany, she is threatened and killed?.....
dual, biased and supressing laws or what?

well....the whole intention of writing your story is self-explanatory ( you know it well) and i need not quote any of your words to proof it

so...now u should condemn France, Belgium and Germany for not allowing women to practice veil freewillingly.
go on...post a story about that too

I'm not sure about the story, but about the fatwa? That's impossible. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. The Qur'an's ruling is that headscarf is mandatory 'after' the girl has reached puberty. And even with that, they'd still get to make their own choices. Most of them wear it because of God, not because of the oppression or compulsion of men. But because of God that they believe and adhere to His rules and Divinity. There is a difference. Read this for more information http://www.scribd.com/doc/7276616/Hadith-on-Hijab and go to this website for even more: http://islam-qa.com/en. And just to note, I was an atheist before I started studying about God. A change of perspective with edifying ourselves with knowledge would really help. May God Guide Me, You and Everyone here. Amen.

Thank you for sharing unnorm. I've clearly messed up in conveying my thoughts on this subject matter, as I had no intention to come off as condemning an entire religion. I am fully aware and completely understand the purpose of the hijab. In the story, I mentioned that there was a backlash in the Saudi community in response to this fatwa, so it was not deemed an official ruling. However, it is painful and scary to see that a sheikh would actually suggest that making that fatwa is the solution to sexual exploitation of children. Bravo for Saudi Arabia for actually speaking against passing that law. But what if they didn't? And will they be as responsive in the future? More often than not, their rights lie on the tip of an extremist man's tongue.

All I have to say is this. Religion and God's ruling is always and has always been perfect. The Torah, Injeel (Bible), and the Holy Qur'an were and are perfect. But not every men is, and I believe you would agree on me with this one. It's like a manufacturer of knives and guns. They created it for a purpose, God knows what their intention were when inventing those things. But we were not made to cut open people's hearts to know. But they are not responsible for what in the hands of other men might do - killing innocent people, gang robberies and so forth and so on. I don't know about the story, and I haven't taken the time yet to read about it. But if it is true that there is a sheikh that suggested that fatwa. Then I being a layman on religion would dare say and by my own research and knowledge that - How could a sheikh, a so called 'Man of God' be putting up a ruling 'against' the ruling of God itself. Right? Back to what I gave about the headscarf. The Prophet Muhammad himself stated that 'It is only obligatory for women to wear headscarf when they've reached puberty.' Then really - that means the man is flawed. I am not reprimanding you with hatred or scorn. But Jujalee, the sheer fact is that there is more rape cases in America than Saudi Arabia. More crimes than over there than in America. Go check the statistics yourself. And it makes me wonder why even that you bothered to make this thing so focused on Saudi Arabia, and its main religion? And God knows best.

Unnorm, please understand that this was not meant to be an attack on the religion, but on the response of the people. The sheikh, I'm sure, had good intentions, but as you said he is a human being that will always have a hint of imperfection. I don't completely agree with the American system's way of handling a rape, in which many times the rape survivor is humiliated. However, a story such as this one would not have had the same complacent reaction in America or most any country, in the east or west. For example, I don't believe many middle eastern countries would have had the same reaction, like Lebanon, or Jordan. In fact, I'm positive that the repercussions would have been more severe both in the community and in through through the legal system. Saudi Arabia is not well liked in the middle east, so to say that they are a reflection of Islam or the heart of the middle eastern culture would be false, and sad given the history. About the statistics- I don't believe every rape and sexual exploitation incident is recorded, especially because the victims will most likely be at the hands of family members who are sole providers/guardians. Children may be raped by their family members, and wives by their husbands etc. Again, even if this is the only rape that has occurred in Saudi Arabia, the response is not what I would have expected at all.

Thanks unnorm....u said all that i was trying to convey in all my comments here

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It is heartbreaking. What's wrong with these people!

Heart breaking. I don't believe this has anything to do with religion though, like posts below suggested. It has to do with evil human beings. How someone could do such a thing to a child is beyond my understanding.

Evil human beings have used religion to hide.... since the dawn of time. Even Constantine knew that by adopting Catholicism as the state church, it would be easier to keep people in line and get them to ignore certain state actions....

I agree that they use the religion to hide. I just meant I don't think it's part of the religion. People who are sick in such a way will use any means possible to get away with their actions.

I also agree that religion is used by many to control and manipulate people.

I agree. People use ideas and twist it around to their advantage.

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this is so sad.... =/

It's awful =/

Stories like this make me want to vomit. When he killed her in October, it wasn't the first time he abused her. In the Spring he had already caused her brain damage.

Religion allows people to hide, in all the worst ways.

I don't understand how the human mind can even go there. A father.....

Ahhhh....the religion of peace strikes again.

@goliathtree Listen to this cracker. White catholic ********* priests, white boys losing their minds on a weekly basis, shooting up movie theatres and putting bullets into little childrenl in nursery schools, War, invasion, colonialism, slavery. Ahhh....whitey strikes again.

Good one.....way to try and justify unjustifiable **********....

lmao...even better....create an account so you can do it without having to be actually known....tool

Brave those anons......brave!

Wait....I thought I was whitey?

you are whitey...I am cracker.

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That's horrible :((( I don't like the way women and girls are treated; they are treated as possessions which is so wrong.

It is... there needs to be change