Conversation: Thewarsword And Puregoodsoul: Fate:

Not a competition, but a friendly topic for any one claiming Enlightenment to understand. Is there fate?


PureGoodSoul:

for to every cause is another cause

leading to infinity

where there is God of all Gods

Such is the Fated Cause

God

12:26amThewarsword:

but within philsophy lies its creators which are humans.

thus humanity mst then control fate?

*must

12:26amPureGoodSoul:

never can we touch God

God cannot be pointed to

we can't change the unchangeably

12:27amThewarsword:

the flow of time and space rests with science and our understanding. In the mind fo the human we are the center points of our univere. TO conceptulize god is to render him to our choices.

12:27amPureGoodSoul:

and to render our choices to him!

I see total synonymity within God and this place.

Nothing to be changed.

12:27amThewarsword:

and setthe equation equal

12:28am

changeing

the original fate

12:28amPureGoodSoul:

yes of course but we can't get to it

12:28amThewarsword:

thus when one half weight changes the balance changes

because we cant understnad

but a handful can understand

12:28amPureGoodSoul:

we can understand all that pertains to us

12:28amThewarsword:

thus they change the fate

12:28amPureGoodSoul:

we can't understand that which doesnt

that which I don't touch will never change me

12:29amThewarsword:

but withinour own minds we decide what pretains and what does not.

man seeks control and power.

12:29amPureGoodSoul:

fate is simply this: not a matter of wisdom or intellect, but of not being a controler.

12:29amThewarsword:

hence his creation of politics

12:29amPureGoodSoul:

Say, the Gods just hang out

12:29amThewarsword:

they will fight amonst each other

12:29amPureGoodSoul:

and don't control anythiing

all is pre determined set from eternal Halls of truth

Gods are not controlers

12:30amThewarsword:

but who creates the halls of truth?

12:30amPureGoodSoul:

no one creates

12:30amThewarsword:

who would upkeep them?

12:30amPureGoodSoul:

thats the angelic lie that they create the rain

12:30amThewarsword:

then how did they exist?

12:30amPureGoodSoul:

no its just creation merging within constantly

by pure law of allowance

such is intelligence

special love

12:31amThewarsword:

brb

12:31amPureGoodSoul:

that was a book!

woo

can I post it?

12:33am

we can start a new one

I say we actually publish a book, between you and I arguing fate

12:34am

I mean it would work

but all in all you say that fate is because of ideas? I'm not sure about that. I say fate is about Idea. not many.

12:35amThewarsword:

simply put

humans create the concept of fate

12:35amPureGoodSoul:

or super humans

but

super human this: fate is just creator being creator.

12:36am

then its not one creator and its so many that its infinite

then that infinity becomes one. the final number is one.

it's actually 100

"don't be fooled by your emptiness"

12:36amThewarsword:

yes but within that infinty lies a truth of infinite truths

thus

12:37am

with each one createing infiniteing with themselves we add to that infinitety

thus we create that infinity

12:37amPureGoodSoul:

oh sure

12:37amThewarsword:

some of us hol dmany being with us

12:37amPureGoodSoul:

and it sums up to this moment now

12:37amThewarsword:

thus we control a bigger chunck of that infinitey

12:37amPureGoodSoul:

sure thing i have many guides guiding me full on!

12:37amThewarsword:

i am not being guided i am guideing

12:37amPureGoodSoul:

hah well yes, but you are guided pre set

12:38amThewarsword:

more then our minds dare comprehend

12:38amPureGoodSoul:

I believe dreams tell us exaclty that

12:38amThewarsword:

no.

12:38amPureGoodSoul:

who controls the dream?

is it you?

or is it your unconsciou?

my dreams are pretty fated let me tell you

i mean today makes them happen

12:40amThewarsword:

yes but our subconsciousness controls that dream

and thus we are all automated and pre set

12:40amPureGoodSoul:

the essence of subconscious is the same essence as unconscious and conscious

12:40amThewarsword:

but once you understand that

you can change that autmation and preset

12:41amPureGoodSoul:

lmao

no way

12:41amThewarsword:

yes you are correct.

but you cannot controlt eh subconscious without speacial training

12:41amPureGoodSoul:

You can choose to experience fate, it's like a security blanket, or to power trip it out

12:41amThewarsword:

yes way it can happen

yes

fate told me i would live in a humanish hell

12:41amPureGoodSoul:

I think the power trip is left for those who need power

Ancient Greek

12:42amThewarsword:

thus fate no longer controls me.

and thus i understood that everyone controls fate

in ther eown way

and thus i saw

i saw the begins of struggle for the power

and thus i wait.

12:42amPureGoodSoul:

!

12:43am

The power is to whom can teach youmanity the best about the truth. It all rests in Fate.

You wait, I fate.

"fast, beat, GO!"

12:44am

I think we have a mission

and we can't get away from that mission

some say that there are unchangeable points

and the rest is left to us

I believe in Deterministic views

But I agree with yoU!

12:44amThewarsword:

fate can be changed

12:44amPureGoodSoul:

It's fate and not fate. neither fate, nor unfate.

Its actually unjudgeable.

12:44amThewarsword:

yes exactly

thus it truely doesnt exist

12:45amPureGoodSoul:

But I have a deep conviction that this movie isn't ending unexpectedly

Thus is truly is a judgement

and doesn't exist

ah

12:45amThewarsword:

thats because you can predict that changes that will be made to it

12:45amPureGoodSoul:

half fate half unfate

12:45amThewarsword:

yes.

12:45amPureGoodSoul:

so what do we call that Ancient Greek?

12:45amThewarsword:

do you remeber when i said god and humans each hold one side of the equation?

12:45amPureGoodSoul:

nope

but you just did

12:46amThewarsword:

yes.

12:46amPureGoodSoul:

I think the answer is God

12:46amThewarsword:

and man can change the equation in his favor

no

12:46amPureGoodSoul:

how could you?

judge it as not being

I want fate, I don't want unfate.

12:46amThewarsword:

because i dont see two being

12:46amPureGoodSoul:

I see many

but yet one

one already done, was my point

12:47am

Aha!

12:47amThewarsword:

i want the turth to rain supreme among all.

*truth

but you see.

that cannot be.

12:47amPureGoodSoul:

Heres my last point, Ancient Greek

If God exists, God is exactly as hoped for. Bing!

Google!

lol

12:47amThewarsword:

do to conceptulizeation.....

12:48am

my friend check the chat we have come full circle twice

we keep repeating i am finished
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PureGoodSoul PureGoodSoul
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Sep 10, 2012