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Illegalize Cigarettes and Stop Cashing In On Deaths

This topic ALWAYS burns my butt!! There are MANY drugs that are far less addictive than cigarettes and are far less harmful to one's health. BUT making cigarettes ILLEGAL, would mean the government would LOSE way too much CASH and would have fewer people offering up money for politicians to run their insanely EXPENSIVE campaigns. LEGALIZE pot, which at LEAST does have some medicinal benefits and make CIGARETTES illegal, that we KNOW kill and lead too MANY other health issues AS WELL AS killing people with second hand smoke. AM i off my rocker, or does anyone else agree and think our governments AGAIN are NUTS!!
AlwaysRemembers AlwaysRemembers 41-45, F 56 Responses May 18, 2007

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You are so Right On! did you know that marijuana actually combats cancer in lung cancer patients?

I have to say I dont agree cigs should be illegal. For one this is suppose to be a free country and if someone wants to smoke they should be able to (although not in public places). Not everyone will stop smoking BC it is illegal and I really think our tax money and prison space should be used to deal with criminals who harm other people or society. prohibition didnt work and neither would banning cigaretts. As far as the govt cashing in on cigarettes, I say its a good thing, id rather have the gvt get some extra tax from smokers then raising taxes on others.

I have to say I dont agree cigs should be illegal. For one this is suppose to be a free country and if someone wants to smoke they should be able to (although not in public places). Not everyone will stop smoking BC it is illegal and I really think our tax money and prison space should be used to deal with criminals who harm other people or society. prohibition didnt work and neither would banning cigaretts. As far as the govt cashing in on cigarettes, I say its a good thing, id rather have the gvt get some extra tax from smokers then raising taxes on others.

You are right on!!!!!!!!! Jail sentences for those who smoke with children present in cars and indoors!!!! Absolutelutly no medi cade no medi care for folks with tobacco caused sickness. Hefty fines for throwing the disgusting butts on the ground, heavy fines for smoking within fifty feet of any door in or out of any public location,anywhere.Legalized pot will not increase or decrease its numbers of users:). Free the pot offenders,make room for true criminals in this nations prisons

Theres like no way to illegalize tobacco, it would do a lot of people some good, but its physically impossible. weed needs to be legalized, for economic reasons, medical reasons, and just the freedom to do it

marijuana is almost as bad as cigarettes. Both leave tar in your lungs, and inhaling the fumes of any herbacious substance, be it tobacco, cannabis, or whatever, will release toxins that are then inhaled and brought into the body. I would like to see cigarettes only have tobacco in them though, instead of tobacco AND weird additives (like nicotine)!

Sorry if someone already mentioned this before me but i dont have time to read 6 pages so ill just say it. Tobacco itself is not near as bad as cigarettes. You can get a list of all the chemicals added to cigarettes. In general what they do is turn the leaf into a pulp add chemicals (re-add nicotine) then turn it into a paper and shred it. Ganja would be horrible to if they did that to it.

First off, let me just say that I am not a smoker, but I am aware that there are 45 million adult smokers in the US. If you think that your bitching is going to do anything other than make people aware of the bug up your ***, than you are delusional. Smokers are here to stay. Get over it!

Ok not to start an argument here. But have you people ever considered the rights of individuals that smoke. Yes a lot of us(and I stress Us, because I am a smoker, of ciggerettes not herb) are addicted to ciggarettes, but that a few of us don't want to stop smoking? Because we like it? What you are preposing is a violation of people's rights. and while you have rights to not be around people that smoke or not to sit in the smoking section of a resturant. What you are trying to do is take away us smoker's rights to smoke. You don't like it when someone that smokes sits down next to you and lights up? ok we get that. and a lot of us are considerate of the fact that there are people out there that do not smoke and that do not want to be around it. and so if asked nicely would be more than willing to postpone our ciggarette until we could be somewhere that smoking doesn't bother anyone. But You don't ask. and while all smoker's don't ask either. They should. But that doesn't mean that you can take our rights away and it doesn't mean that you should be allowed to. Just like we wouldn't force you to sit in a smoking area if you didn't want to. You shouldn't force us to stop smoking just because you don't like it. and if you wanna get into it about Herbs! Yes herbs can and have been proven to help treat some forms of illnesses. The addiction to it though is no less than ciggarettes and if you tell yourself that then your a fool. Not to mention that herbs have also been proven to have a by far greater consequence on a person's mental status that ciggarettes. Ask my mother who's been a psyciatric nurse on and off for 15 years. Anyway the point is. If you want smoker's to respect your rights as non- smokers then you need to respect their rights as well.

Tobacco is becoming more illegal every day, if you hadn't noticed... of course the government's ideal situation would be for everyone to be buying them and not smoking any!


Personally I'm not a big fan of making things illegal when they don't harm others. There's a reasonable argument that passive smoking counts as "harm", but offering some sort of subsidy to non-smoking establishments until there existed a "reasonable number" of them but allowed the owners to run a competitive business would be better than an outright ban. However, saying fattening foods should be made illegal because they are "bad for you", I find chilling. Do you really want a government that tells you what you can and can't *eat*? Narcotics laws are bad enough, but that kind of legalised morality is just starting to disappear, without people campaigning to bring it back in another form...

You're absolutely right. Tobacco industries are powerful and rich and have their way with politicians. But the tide is turning. Tobacco *will* be illegal, even the dumbest kid in class will eventually understand how much damage it does.

rcrisp is right woman who pms should not have to stop. But I totally agree pot should be legal. Only thing is it would cost more than 60.00 an ounce[ least that is what someone told me I wouldnt know]. And fat foods should also be illegal, from what I hear about what it cost for medical and other. I salute you alwaysremember for bringing it up. IVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE BORING HIGH EVERY THING IS FUNNY AT LEAST THATS WHAT I HEAR!!!

all I can say is natural selection



honestly, if all drugs were controlled and distributed by the government, then the money would no longer go to gangs to fund their personal armies. Right now, it is much easier for kids to get their hands on marijuana than alcohol.



Cigarette use is on the decline, and tobacco distributors are feeling the pain. It is thanks to ad campaigns and interest groups, not law.



Prohibition does not decrease drug usage. It only diverts the flow of money.



End prohibition.

Ruin criminal income.

Oh friend this is something I have thought of often.I am 50 yrs old,when I was in my teens the smoking ads were telling us it was quite ok to smoke besides if you wanted to be a cowboy or airline pilot or even a race car driver you got the imperession you had to smoke. So I took up the cursed habbit.OK Advance30+ years until know,I have been smoking since then and cannot shake the addiction ,I hate the fact I am addicted to it now my lungs probably look like burnt toast and wouldn't you know it the ads are now telling us the smoking is bad for you.Very harmful to your health,but still they sell.what other addictive substance do you know of that you can walk out your backdoor at any time of night or day and in any direction and have access to it with minutes.The double standards here defy belief.How can goverment justify selling this killer product still.They may as well legalise hard drugs.Is there any country in the world that has banned the sale of tobacoo I heard Nepal did

Just to let you know on the flip-side there are benefits to smoking (some medicinal and mostly socio-economic in basis).



http://www.ubersite.com/m/84682

The FDA was recently granted the role of regulating tobacco. This means there will probably be less chemicals or more precise warnings. This also means that advertising will be cut..or cut out all together.



Marijuana may not be addictive physically, but it is just as addictive mentally. People use it the same as cigarettes to combat everyday stress. It has the power to alter someone's personality and make them unable to do certain things. With cigarettes....the worse you get is being grouchy if they don't have any.



I'm not sure how documented it is, but marijuana damages the lungs as well. The chemicals also have the power to lean towards cancer...just the same as cigarettes.



I believe with anything addictive, it's all in moderation. While I don't personally believe that pot should be legalized..just the same as I don't think cigarettes should be outlawed (Although alcohol is an iffy subject with me), I think people should focus on moderation...not an outright stop of every known vice on the planet...lol

Totally agree with you. Smoking is pointless... They taste disgusting, and they cause cancer. I have never heard of anyone dying from smoking too much marijuana. Now I have had some serious cases of the munchies, but that's as far as it goes.Pot at least helps me with my depression, and bipolar disorder. LEGALIZE IT!

Well actually, people make the world go round.. So get everyone of the same mindset, and money no longer makes the world go round. It just happens to be the ONE single thing, that everyone shares in some way.

Cigarettes don't have all natural 'ingredients', so tobacco being illegalized wouldn't be right. Cigarettes though, are a cruel money making scheme, sadly they are apart of economies. Nobody is 'forcing' anybody to smoke anything though.

Agreed, natural is safe! Our bodies haven't evolved for the purpose of shoving chemicals into them, they were meant to ingest natural plants which can be found growing in the soil. That isn't to say we can't eat meat ;p but we shouldn't eat as much as is regularly consumed.. Our bodies were meant to absorb nutrients in from things in their natural state.

i completely agree with you. pot is practically harmless in comparison to cigarettes. i don't personally smoke weed, but i think that people who desire to smoke a natural, yes, natural, drug, like pot, should completely have the right. in the same vein, i'm really only opposed to the crappy, chemical-filled cigarettes on the market today. i think we should regress to all-natural tobacco cigarettes. if we stick to natural stuff, than nobody really loses, i think.

There is truth to what saige says, the economy of america, and everywhere else for that matter.. simply couldn't handle these changes.



Jobs would be lost, and money would be lost. On the other hand, if the entire world did this at the same time.. Well then inflation would go down, money would be worth more, it could buy more. Like the days a dime could buy a steak dinner, only probably not so drastic.



If companies were to think more to the lines of constantly needing employees, well there wouldn't be a problem with jobs after this, or right now for that matter. That isn't the world in which we live though, companies will continue to work with what works, they will not put themselves in the position of always looking for employees, they will fill the jobs that need to be filled, with those who can fill them.



I have one more opinion to add to the issue of cigs. They are addictive are they not? People tend to do questionable, or make unwise decisions at weak points in their life, or if they are simply of a more susceptible mind type. This is how heroine junkies become heroine junkies, or crack ****** become crack ******, it is how people get addicted to things. Someone offers them something at a low point in their life, and they accept, and I am sure if any smoker were to trace their reasons for smoking (truthfully) back to it's origin that was exactly what happened, it was offered to someone who didn't know it would take over their mind and body. Even if cigs are a far more subtle addiction compared to heroine or cocaine, it is still an addiction, and it still has a hold. Whether your own desires coincide with that hold or not, if the prices of cigs were raised to 50$ a smoke, do you think we would start seeing comparisons to junkies? I think so ;p

Cigarettes are legal because this country was founded on them. The tobacco industry is our economy's backbone. Weed is illegal because the best weed is imported, therefore the government can't tax it. I love ciggarettes, and the economy already sucks - so let's not make it worse. Leave my dirty smoking habit alone. I'm all for legalizing pot, but let me keep my cigarettes.

It isn't really their choice after they've started. It just appears to be to them and others, if they suddenly weren't addicted to nicotine they would likely go through the day without having a smoke and not even realize it.



As for what's legal and illegal, the only way for us to illegalize what is legal and needs to be illegal while having what is illegal that needs to be legal become legal, the only way is for us to legalize than illegalize. If we create a sober society, it would 'theoretically' become even worse an idea to legalize that which was illegal previously. However if we legalize those illegal substances first, and promote their USE, then we could then illegalize things which should be illegal such as alcohol. As for cigs, I think people need to be forced to be safe, like wearing seatbelts.

money aside, i ultimately think that illegalizing ciggs and alcohol would casue more overcrowding in our already overcrowded jails/prisons.....i think the crime rate would steadily increase because cops would be too busy busting these new petty criminals [its no longer potheads and methheads, now were busy chasing down people with ciggs and beer, while the real criminal goes unnoticed robbing stores or raping women].



i also think that by illegalizing what is already legal, you've pretty much lost all chance at legalizing what is alreaday illegal.



and as for the deaths related to alcohol abuse....there should be stricter punishments for alcohol abuse. and as for those increasing their chance of lung cancer by choosing to smoke tabacco...thats their choice, not yours. and as for second hand smoke, non smokers being affected by smokers.....the new rules they've put into affect pretty much take care of that....you cant smoke in public anymore.....



my opinion---lets keep whats legal, legal....and focus on legalizing whats illegal

Unfortunately the world revolves around money. The people in power need money and lots of it to simply stay in power, to keep the public 'happy' or at least to keep the public from not caring. Stuff like health care, or police, the school systems, if it weren't for these needing funding people would have long ago been fed up with governments.



They will never, soon at least, legalize marijuana and illegallize cigs. Marijuana would cause them to receive less money than what they are, and cigs the same thing. Marijuana would shift use from drugs on the market to itself which would mean less money, because there are a lot more drugs on the market that would be pointless if marijuana was legal.. Cigs well why would they illegalize something that makes money for absolutely no reason at all! A lot of money at that, a lot of f*cking money.



Alcohol is the same situation as cigs, if it has no use it is legal simply to make money. If it has a use it is illegal, it is illegal because they don't want to make less money because there are probably things that do the same thing, and a lot more of said 'things'. In the defense of the government though, they are protecting countless jobs by doing this, if only people would pick better jobs :/



On top of things, the deaths of the countless people, who died because of cigs or alcohol.. just means a job for somebody still living.. They a lot of money for nothing, and they protect jobs, and they also have less people to worry about in society so more jobs for those who are still living.



Those women and children who get beaten by their drunk husband/father they don't really matter.. just the money that matters, the economy that matters, not the people.



Those who lose fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, brothers, sisters, friends, relatives, coworkers.. to cancer caused or aided by cigs, who cares about them give em a band aid and have them get back to their position in society because it is production for our consumer filled world that matters, not the mere feelings of huge numbers of individuals, not them that matters, it is the economy, our ability to trade, that is what matters.



As you can clearly see none of us matter, the money we have and what we spend it on is the real important factor here.

i think drugs should be legal and have the same warning and side effects labels as anything else on the market today........but in an effort to make everyone happy lets outlaw drug abuse, much like they already do with alcohol. if your severly high or stoned in public....then you should get arrested. but what you do in your own home should be your own damn business.....as for cigarettes, i'm not about to step on someone elses rights....keep 'em legal

I have been off cigs nearly 2 years now, but even when I was a dedicated smoker I often wished they were illegal. It's too easy to get hooked, and the whole money thing makes it very hard to dislodge (the govt hardly being likely to throw away "free" money). Just my 2c :)

see cigarettes dont alter your state of mind though. you think just as clearly after smoking if not clearer, you cant say the same for any drug. thats the difference. you dont get high from smoking cigarettes.

I say people should be accountable for what they do to their body.



We KNOW that cigerettes, alcohol, drugs, caffeine, sugar in large doses, fatty foods, and the like are BAD FOR US... DUH! But people still abuse all of these things. If try to make these things illegal, it will only make the black market stronger and fill our prisons...



This is just ridiculous.